Hayfever!!

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Flumpo

3,750 posts

73 months

Sunday 14th April
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Flumpo said:
Paul Dishman said:
Flumpo said:
Had some hayfever symptoms today which have left me itchy as fk on the face head and neck.

Some years I get really bad hayfever and some years barely any symptoms. On the years it’s bad, none of the sprays, tablets or anything have any impact at all.

Given how bad my reaction seems to have been after 20 mins in the garden this morning. I’m going to try the steroid injection.

There may be some side effects but this feels like a year my body/nature has decided to go nuclear.

Anyway, booked in for Sunday so will see what they say and what happens. I’ve already scratched one of my itchy knuckles raw.
Have you tried Chlorphenamine? That should help with the itch. I'd avoid Kenalog as we discussed above, especially as no reputable health professional will administer it, not to mention the risk of being given a fake
That is a little worrying as he’s been my GP for 14 years. I am going to mention the side effects and NHS ban and see what he recommends.
Just been to see the doctor. He doesn’t recommend the injection unless all other options have failed. He’s given me some tablets I haven’t heard of before - unfortunately I’ve left them in the car so don’t know what they are.

Going to try these for a couple of weeks and hopefully they do the trick. If not and I have severe attacks this summer he will consider the injection further.

Going away for an outdoors type long weekend end of this month, so should be a good test.

KobayashiMaru86

1,172 posts

210 months

Monday 15th April
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I'm on Bilastine now but was a fight to get them. A colleague in the next district uses them after he used them in Poland. My doctors wanted me to try all the cheap ones first until we got to this one. It does wonders. I take it a few weeks before it kicks off too to get ahead of it. 1 tablet will last more or less all day unless I'm up a mountain or cycling in mid Summer and I'll get about 6hrs before needing another.

Wildfire

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9,789 posts

252 months

Tuesday 16th April
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KobayashiMaru86 said:
I'm on Bilastine now but was a fight to get them. A colleague in the next district uses them after he used them in Poland. My doctors wanted me to try all the cheap ones first until we got to this one. It does wonders. I take it a few weeks before it kicks off too to get ahead of it. 1 tablet will last more or less all day unless I'm up a mountain or cycling in mid Summer and I'll get about 6hrs before needing another.
Thread resurrection!

Looks like it is my garden. It's in full bloom and Loratadine is keeping the worst at bay, but I still have the sneezing fits, grainy eyes and blocked nose at night.

The AC filters the bedroom air, which helps a lot.

FilH

620 posts

144 months

Thursday 18th April
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Been in a right stty state last week or so!

Tried a box of Allevia about 10 tabs in, and as expected a complete waste of money again!

So useless stuff on the list now, fexofenadine, citirizne, loratadine and beconase.

Hoping to get a docs appointment today or tomorrow, so anything worth trying asking for? Giving the good old NHS one more try, before I end up taking a risk in a lip filler place again ( only thing thats ever worked for me! )


Im not going to but when working on the car yesterday wanted to smash my nose in with the bloddy hammer! Had to quit working on it, so went for a swim... That gave my relief, until i got home again frown


KobayashiMaru86

1,172 posts

210 months

Thursday 18th April
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FilH said:
Been in a right stty state last week or so!

Tried a box of Allevia about 10 tabs in, and as expected a complete waste of money again!

So useless stuff on the list now, fexofenadine, citirizne, loratadine and beconase.

Hoping to get a docs appointment today or tomorrow, so anything worth trying asking for? Giving the good old NHS one more try, before I end up taking a risk in a lip filler place again ( only thing thats ever worked for me! )


Im not going to but when working on the car yesterday wanted to smash my nose in with the bloddy hammer! Had to quit working on it, so went for a swim... That gave my relief, until i got home again frown
Exactly the same as me. Last one was Allevia but they stopped working after an hour. Outside, even less time. A colleague said he used Bilastine and in Poland it's OTC. I asked the doctor what did they recommend, they pushed me to Chemist, who pushed me back when I said how much Allevia I was overdosing on. The doctor then started at the cheap end until I suggested the Bilastine. They'd never got it before but is on their list. Once I tried it, it was night and day difference. Now I can be up a mountain on a sunny day and it last almost all day. In work, hayfever is almost a non issue now. I tend to take it a few weeks before the main season starts too but it really works for me.

extraT

1,759 posts

150 months

Thursday 18th April
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Fellow Sufferers,

My tips:

Desloratadin Genericon (is the name here in Austria) - cheap as chips and effective (for me!)

A soaking wet flannel / hand towel / sock placed over eyes and halfway over the nostrils. Breathing in cool air and soothing.

Eye drops.

Vaseline smeared just inside each nostril catches pollen.

FilH

620 posts

144 months

Thursday 18th April
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FilH said:
Been in a right stty state last week or so!

Tried a box of Allevia about 10 tabs in, and as expected a complete waste of money again!

So useless stuff on the list now, fexofenadine, citirizne, loratadine and beconase.

Hoping to get a docs appointment today or tomorrow, so anything worth trying asking for? Giving the good old NHS one more try, before I end up taking a risk in a lip filler place again ( only thing thats ever worked for me! )


Im not going to but when working on the car yesterday wanted to smash my nose in with the bloddy hammer! Had to quit working on it, so went for a swim... That gave my relief, until i got home again frown
Well phoned 1st in cue, appointment in about 2 weeks time! As non emergency. Never had this before, in the past been same or next day. But receptionist said doc gets upset if i went today over hayfever.

Told can do an E appointment, and doc will review it today, so set that up. Typed my issues in the box ( 486 characters over the 500 limit so can't send ) great modern technology!

So printed it out and walked to the surgery, expecting a long que of emergency people out the door hmm.... Place was as expected empty.

Anyway spoke to the receptionist who sorted the E appointment, and handed her my tails of woe printed out. Which was fine and the doc should look at it in the next few hours and get back to me...


Mentioned Bilastine and also Desloratadin Genericon as per above suggestions.


TBC, but I suspect im paying for a needle in the Bum soon to just sort it , ignoring all other heath risks smile


Edited by FilH on Thursday 18th April 09:58

pavarotti1980

4,899 posts

84 months

Thursday 18th April
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FilH said:
Well phoned 1st in cue, appointment in about 2 weeks time! As non emergency. Never had this before, in the past been same or next day. But receptionist said doc gets upset if i went today over hayfever.

Told can do an E appointment, and doc will review it today, so set that up. Typed my issues in the box ( 486 characters over the 500 limit so can't send ) great modern technology!

So printed it out and walked to the surgery, expecting a long que of emergency people out the door hmm.... Place was as expected empty.

Anyway spoke to the receptionist who sorted the E appointment, and handed her my tails of woe printed out. Which was fine and the doc should look at it in the next few hours and get back to me...


Mentioned Bilastine and also Desloratadin Genericon as per above suggestions.


TBC, but I suspect im paying for a needle in the Bum soon to just sort it , ignoring all other heath risks smile


Edited by FilH on Thursday 18th April 09:58
Unlikely you will get desloratadine straight away, may start off on
1) loratadine or cetirizine
2) desloratadine (prescription only) or fexofenadine. Expect they recommend getting them over the counter with the exception of desloratadine

Paul Dishman

4,706 posts

237 months

Thursday 18th April
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FilH said:
Well phoned 1st in cue, appointment in about 2 weeks time! As non emergency. Never had this before, in the past been same or next day. But receptionist said doc gets upset if i went today over hayfever.

Told can do an E appointment, and doc will review it today, so set that up. Typed my issues in the box ( 486 characters over the 500 limit so can't send ) great modern technology!

So printed it out and walked to the surgery, expecting a long que of emergency people out the door hmm.... Place was as expected empty.

Anyway spoke to the receptionist who sorted the E appointment, and handed her my tails of woe printed out. Which was fine and the doc should look at it in the next few hours and get back to me...


Mentioned Bilastine and also Desloratadin Genericon as per above suggestions.


TBC, but I suspect im paying for a needle in the Bum soon to just sort it , ignoring all other heath risks smile


Edited by FilH on Thursday 18th April 09:58
Desloratadine won’t be any more effective than Loratadine. It’s a piece of molecular roulette brought out by the drug manufacturer when Loratadine was coming off patent.

Flumpo

3,750 posts

73 months

Thursday 18th April
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FilH said:
FilH said:
Been in a right stty state last week or so!

Tried a box of Allevia about 10 tabs in, and as expected a complete waste of money again!

So useless stuff on the list now, fexofenadine, citirizne, loratadine and beconase.

Hoping to get a docs appointment today or tomorrow, so anything worth trying asking for? Giving the good old NHS one more try, before I end up taking a risk in a lip filler place again ( only thing thats ever worked for me! )


Im not going to but when working on the car yesterday wanted to smash my nose in with the bloddy hammer! Had to quit working on it, so went for a swim... That gave my relief, until i got home again frown
Well phoned 1st in cue, appointment in about 2 weeks time! As non emergency. Never had this before, in the past been same or next day. But receptionist said doc gets upset if i went today over hayfever.

Told can do an E appointment, and doc will review it today, so set that up. Typed my issues in the box ( 486 characters over the 500 limit so can't send ) great modern technology!

So printed it out and walked to the surgery, expecting a long que of emergency people out the door hmm.... Place was as expected empty.

Anyway spoke to the receptionist who sorted the E appointment, and handed her my tails of woe printed out. Which was fine and the doc should look at it in the next few hours and get back to me...


Mentioned Bilastine and also Desloratadin Genericon as per above suggestions.


TBC, but I suspect im paying for a needle in the Bum soon to just sort it , ignoring all other heath risks smile


Edited by FilH on Thursday 18th April 09:58
Totally feel for you. Totally relate to the hammer to the nose, I’ve felt like nearly rubbing my entire nose and eyes off my face before. Good luck.

FilH

620 posts

144 months

Thursday 18th April
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pavarotti1980 said:
Unlikely you will get desloratadine straight away, may start off on
1) loratadine or cetirizine
2) desloratadine (prescription only) or fexofenadine. Expect they recommend getting them over the counter with the exception of desloratadine
1) Tried all of that useless crap in the past, some of it mentioned in my other post..

In the note to the Doc ive put ..

"Stuff ive tried on the list now, fexofenadine, citirizne, loratadine and beconase spray things. Makes no differeance and no relief.

Done eye drops in the past, that seem to just sting and give no relief. Vaseline up the nose, cold flannel on the face etc. All a pointless waste of time and money"


frown


Just had enough once again....

Trying to sort my car on rest days and have had to give up! Welding mask and gloves, with a constant runny nose and watery itchy eyes just don't work.

Not to mention lack of sleep for me and my family due to constant waking everyone up with violent sneezing frown

FilH

620 posts

144 months

Thursday 18th April
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Just got a text reply..


"I have prescribed you high dose fexofenadine 180mg to take daily and nasal spray mometasone to use once or twice a day for hay fever symptoms, I expect your symptoms to improve with this combination and if this is not the case, then to seek medical advise"


Looking at the fexofen at 180mg, im assuming thats same as the Allevia 120mg tabs ive bought, just a slightly higher dose? Guess that will do F all still?

Nose spray, ive had load in the past ,but can't remember what ones? All useless, ill give this a try.

Feel like im wasting the NHS's time and money along with my own money!


Paul Dishman

4,706 posts

237 months

Thursday 18th April
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FilH said:
Just got a text reply..


"I have prescribed you high dose fexofenadine 180mg to take daily and nasal spray mometasone to use once or twice a day for hay fever symptoms, I expect your symptoms to improve with this combination and if this is not the case, then to seek medical advise"


Looking at the fexofen at 180mg, im assuming thats same as the Allevia 120mg tabs ive bought, just a slightly higher dose? Guess that will do F all still?

Nose spray, ive had load in the past ,but can't remember what ones? All useless, ill give this a try.

Feel like im wasting the NHS's time and money along with my own money!
I used to advise people with hay fever symptoms to try to take the tablets and use the nasal sprays faithfully each day for at least a week before deciding whether or not the medication worked.

scjgreen

577 posts

134 months

Thursday 18th April
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Have done Kenalog 40mg for the last couple of years. Absolute Game Changer tbh!

Every Medicine has risks right? How many of us wilfully accepted Covid Jabs without knowing the full picture.

Enjoying Summer is the priority for me

skinnyman

1,638 posts

93 months

Thursday 18th April
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My hayfever has been on/off for years, until 2022 when it kicked in hard! The only thing that worked for me was the kenalog injection, that sorted me for the whole summer.

Strangely in 2023 everyone around me was suffering more than previous years, whereas I had nothing. So far this year, nothing, although with the weather barely reaching double figures I suspect the worst is yet to come.

Paul Dishman

4,706 posts

237 months

Thursday 18th April
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scjgreen said:
Have done Kenalog 40mg for the last couple of years. Absolute Game Changer tbh!

Every Medicine has risks right? How many of us wilfully accepted Covid Jabs without knowing the full picture.

Enjoying Summer is the priority for me
The risks of having Kenalog are well known, which is why it's had its Product Licence withdrawn.

Mazinbrum

934 posts

178 months

Thursday 18th April
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scjgreen said:
Have done Kenalog 40mg for the last couple of years. Absolute Game Changer tbh!

Every Medicine has risks right? How many of us wilfully accepted Covid Jabs without knowing the full picture.

Enjoying Summer is the priority for me
Makes you faster on a bike too.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/mar/05/brad...

FilH

620 posts

144 months

Thursday 18th April
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Paul Dishman said:
I used to advise people with hay fever symptoms to try to take the tablets and use the nasal sprays faithfully each day for at least a week before deciding whether or not the medication worked.
Yep been taking the Alleva stuff daily for 10 days. Will try the prescription stuff for the next week or soo daily as instructed, and if not successful back to the docs..

We will see......

Paul Dishman

4,706 posts

237 months

Thursday 18th April
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FilH said:
Paul Dishman said:
I used to advise people with hay fever symptoms to try to take the tablets and use the nasal sprays faithfully each day for at least a week before deciding whether or not the medication worked.
Yep been taking the Alleva stuff daily for 10 days. Will try the prescription stuff for the next week or soo daily as instructed, and if not successful back to the docs..

We will see......
Good idea, make sure you take the mometasone nasal spray daily as instructed too as that's by far the most effective way of getting it to work.

Hope you get some relief soon

scjgreen

577 posts

134 months

Thursday 18th April
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Mazinbrum said:
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