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Black can man

10,966 posts

37 months

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GLENRED said:
Black can man said:
you not think letting Carroll go & not replacing him was not a mistake , a couple of injuries or a suspension could be a major problem,

Joking aside Suarez is loose cannon & look at last season , 8 games out ?
Oh yeah, in that case we are fked yes

Good job we didn't let our best 2 midfielders leave, and replace them with a striker and a goalie
Well Glen , i'm pretty happy with today's business, are you ?

GLENRED

5,816 posts

75 months

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Black can man said:
Well Glen , i'm pretty happy with today's business, are you ?
Happy with the window overall, not so much today.

CraigMST

2,835 posts

34 months

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Smart Mart said:
I thought Ecclestone's deal to Blackpool went through?
Yer it did, on his Twitter etc

Adam B

6,836 posts

123 months

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Saturday 1st September 2012 quote quote all
Berbatov to Fulham for only £4M !

jeez - man city have been busy (surprise!)

van der vaart went from hero to zero quickly - strange one

qpr have signed 12 players!

£6m for dempsey has to be good business for spurs

Edited by Adam B on Saturday 1st September 00:09

RedTrident

3,436 posts

104 months

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Superfans continue to attempt to polish a turd.

The rest of us see it for what it is, a monumental fk up. Rodgers has been made to look like a fool. FSG are showing their true colours.

Suarez is already on 2 yellows. Borini has yet to score a league goal and at best looks a solid squad player. We've bought a winger that has never kicked a ball at this level whilst promoted one that should be eased in rather than risk being burned out.

We are criminally short upfront and the loaning out of Carroll without a replacement should be a sacking offence.

Rodgers clearly got the job promising that he could deliver with limited funds. What we've seen this window is actually negative funds rather than limited. We've lost Kuyt, Bellamy, Carroll and Maxi and replaced them with Borini and Assadi.

Sell up and leave FSG. You bought the club on the cheap and it seems that you're after making our squad resemble Fulham. Masters of spin nothing more.
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DukeDickson

3,061 posts

82 months

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Saturday 1st September 2012 quote quote all
Adam B said:
Berbatov to Fulham for only £4M !

jeez - man city havebeen busy (surprise!)

van der vaart went from hero to zero quickly - strange one
Berbatov on a very large stipend at both United and Fulham and wasn't going to get a game at United, so not surprising.

VdV - His rather lovely better half works on German TV apparently, so possibly not that strange. I'm sure even private jets get boring after a while.

RWD cossie wil

1,862 posts

42 months

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Saturday 1st September 2012 quote quote all
In the words of Turkish...

"Now, we are fked"

GLENRED

5,816 posts

75 months

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Saturday 1st September 2012 quote quote all
RWD cossie wil said:
In the words of Turkish...

"Now, we are fked"
Proper fked

hornetrider

40,803 posts

74 months

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Saturday 1st September 2012 quote quote all
GLENRED said:
Proper fked
yes

I look forward to seeing what our bench looks like week in week out.

Gerrard up front anyone? Why the fk not.

UF

7,018 posts

52 months

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hornetrider said:
yes

I look forward to seeing what our bench looks like week in week out.

Gerrard up front anyone? Why the fk not.
I've just emailed the club, thought I'd put my name in the hat. I am not as fit as I used to be but can miss from 8 yards as good as anyone in our squad yes


RedTrident

3,436 posts

104 months

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Saturday 1st September 2012 quote quote all
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/li...

By Chris Bascombe
12:36AM BST 01 Sep 2012
2 Comments

Brendan Rodgers, the Liverpool manager, spent transfer deadline day trying to convince his hierarchy of the need to secure the American international.

Fenway Sports Group were unwilling to meet the price – understood to be £1 million above that quoted to other clubs – and now Rodgers faces the improbable task of leading Liverpool back into the Champions League with Luis Suárez as the only experienced striker at the club.

As the clock ticked before the closure of the transfer window, it emerged that Rodgers was not just frantically negotiating with Dempsey’s club Fulham, but also his own board as he argued his case on the merits of signing the 29-year-old.

Dempsey had earlier rejected the chance to join Aston Villa, desperate for Liverpool to re-open negotiations, before finally holding talks with Spurs. On another difficult day in the tumultuous recent history of the Merseyside club, it became apparent that one of the main stumbling blocks to a deal was FSG’s new, restrained transfer policy and determination to enforce more prudent financial management.

Despite slashing the wage bill by millions, including offloading Carroll on the presumption it would free funds for a replacement, Rodgers was informed the fee for Dempsey was too high and that he could offer only up to £5  million. FSG were reluctant to spend significant money on a player in his late 20s entering the final year of his contract.

They have stated previously they would rather invest in young talent than those who will have no sell on value at the end of their contracts, and they are still reeling from the millions wasted by the previous management regime.

It seemed inconceivable as the deadline approached, having allowed Carroll to join West Ham on loan, that Rodgers would be left with only Suárez as a senior striker, but that is the hand he has now been dealt until January. Should Suárez suffer an injury in the next few months, Rodgers will have only Fabio Borini — signed predominantly as a wide man – as a realistic alternative.

The transfer window has provided a thorough education for the latest Anfield incumbent on the financial reality gripping the club. He may feel it has little in common with the public pronouncements when he joined Liverpool.

Chairman Tom Werner suggested last season that Liverpool could match the top clubs in Europe. “I would say we certainly have the resources to compete with anybody in football,” he said on April 12.

At Rodgers’s unveiling in June, a club statement went even further, suggesting the high spending of the previous management regime would not impact on the new coach’s transfer plans.

It read: “The owners are always willing to provide funds where necessary to strengthen the squad.

“There will be no requirement to sell players this summer in order to fund new purchases.”

These claims do not seem to tally with Rodgers’s failure to get the green light to sign Dempsey, particularly given the number of senior players who have left since he was appointed, many of whom he was helpless to prevent departing. Numerous high-earning players have departed since the end of last season, including Dirk Kuyt, Craig Bellamy, Alberto Aquilani, Andy Carroll and Maxi Rodriguez.

Fabio Aurelio, Charlie Adam and Jay Spearing have also been moved on, equating to a conservative estimate of £20 million slashed in wages, and yet Rodgers still found himself pleading in vain for the funds to force through the Dempsey deal.

Liverpool also held talks with Chelsea for the loan signing of Daniel Sturridge, but the England international wanted to make the transfer permanent.

Rodgers possessed neither the funds nor the inclination to bid £15 million for his services and Sturridge was a substitute in Chelsea’s Super Cup defeat in Monaco.

The early part of the day at Anfield was spent offloading players. Adam moved to Stoke for £4 million, Spearing headed to Bolton for a season’s loan and youngsters Danny Wilson and Nathan Eccleston headed to Blackpool on loan.


hornetrider

40,803 posts

74 months

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Saturday 1st September 2012 quote quote all
Telegraph said:
Fenway Sports Group were unwilling to meet the price – understood to be £1 million above that quoted to other clubs
ESPN reporting that as well. You know what, I'm glad we didn't cave, fk you Fulham.

Shouldn't have loaned Carroll out first though.


DukeDickson

3,061 posts

82 months

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hornetrider said:
Telegraph said:
Fenway Sports Group were unwilling to meet the price – understood to be £1 million above that quoted to other clubs
ESPN reporting that as well. You know what, I'm glad we didn't cave, fk you Fulham.

Shouldn't have loaned Carroll out first though.
Principles are all very well, but unless you have very patient (and/or rich enough to choose the direction, without obvious care, which you don't) owners, or are convinced you have a Shanks/Clough/Taggart (in UK terms), it really is dumb as fk.
Without a doubt they're better than the last bunch of clowns, but at the same time, they're very odd, unless, financial issues are afoot.

So it costs you an embarrassing & painful bar - Shirt sales, competition gains etc & move on. Alternative or fine, great, but you don't have that, as things stand. Somewhat more sensible to get rid of simple Stuart & Joe C, as well as those who left, than the Emile of the 10's, surely. What will either contribute, in all honestly?





Flip Martian

2,042 posts

59 months

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Blimey, I'm glad I went to bed early. Just woken up to this. Unbelievable...

Surely if FSG were so against paying out so much for an older player, those conversations should have taken place earlier than deadline day! BR should have already been aware of that and been setting his sights elsewhere.

And IA left Melwood several hours before the deadline?! Not plan B to work on? Incredible. While I'm glad we refused to be shafted by another club this time, we still have egg on our faces after everything BR said in the last couple of days. We can only hope the AC deal has a recall clause.

Seems fishy that Owen never did sign for anyone after all. I wonder if that's why IA left early. I guess either he's coming or Adam Morgan is getting a lot more first team action than originally planned...

ferrisbueller

14,693 posts

96 months

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Oh Dear.

DSLiverpool

3,295 posts

71 months

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Considering the situation we find ourselves in this morning I would accept Owen on a pay as you play deal even till January. Let's face it last season we couldn't score and this season we have arguably less firepower.


May put my life savings on 1-0 to the Liverpool on Sunday as Arse haven't got a goal scorer in them, at least we've got Skrtel (oh better make that 1-1 biggrin )

Come on red men.

Flip Martian

2,042 posts

59 months

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DSLiverpool said:
Considering the situation we find ourselves in this morning I would accept Owen on a pay as you play deal even till January. Let's face it last season we couldn't score and this season we have arguably less firepower.


May put my life savings on 1-0 to the Liverpool on Sunday as Arse haven't got a goal scorer in them, at least we've got Skrtel (oh better make that 1-1 biggrin )

Come on red men.
I'd go for that deal too but whichever way you look at it, we end up looking like chumps...

hornetrider

40,803 posts

74 months

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Owen?! Please, wash your mouths out fellas! I think we'll see Stevie G move up front. We've got plenty in midfield despite Lucas' injury. Fabregas played that role for Spain, I think it would suit Gerrard down to the ground. May even extend his career if he doesn't have to bother with tracking back.

Dift

1,395 posts

96 months

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Yes BR should have had a back up incase CD did not come off (if that was even an option). I have no problem with FSG, they have a policy on buying older players and they stuck to it, they have been open about that from the start.
If Morgan is as good as some say, then it may not be a bad thing to have him playing 1st team footy.

It's not all doom and gloom because we didn't by an ageing American (I would have loved him at Liverpool), but chin up.

Remember the game against City... We looked (at times), the most composed I think I've seen in my lifetime (against good opposition).

You all sound like Raja!! (I wonder where he went wink )

Flip Martian

2,042 posts

59 months

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hornetrider said:
Owen?! Please, wash your mouths out fellas! I think we'll see Stevie G move up front. We've got plenty in midfield despite Lucas' injury. Fabregas played that role for Spain, I think it would suit Gerrard down to the ground. May even extend his career if he doesn't have to bother with tracking back.
I only say Owen as we are clearly now desperate for a finisher. Stevie as a forward who doesn't track back? He's class, of course but he's no spring chicken, he says so himself. Has he ever played as an out and out striker? I know hes played OFF the main striker... Not keen on Owen coming back but why BR was trying to persuade FSG yesterday that Dempsey was our only hope, beggars belief. He should have targeted perhaps 3 around the world who could do the job and would be available. And who were younger. As it is, we need someone in the box who will just put the fking thing in the net without fuss.
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