The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 20]
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fiatpower said:
SWoll said:
I don't get this.
It's been a massive improvement over last season and much better than any of us expected. Yes we've run out of steam, but that happens and we've had very little luck with injuries, red cards or VAR either.
I'll take that happily after our dreadful 22/23 and last summers transfer madness. All about perspective.
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I don’t disagree. I mean the hope was we could see him off with one of the trophies we were in for and our form has just gone off a cliff. That’s what I mean by a shame. I also wasn’t expecting anything out of this season so to even be in the hunt has been good. It's been a massive improvement over last season and much better than any of us expected. Yes we've run out of steam, but that happens and we've had very little luck with injuries, red cards or VAR either.
I'll take that happily after our dreadful 22/23 and last summers transfer madness. All about perspective.
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Silenoz said:
fiatpower said:
SWoll said:
I don't get this.
It's been a massive improvement over last season and much better than any of us expected. Yes we've run out of steam, but that happens and we've had very little luck with injuries, red cards or VAR either.
I'll take that happily after our dreadful 22/23 and last summers transfer madness. All about perspective.
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I don’t disagree. I mean the hope was we could see him off with one of the trophies we were in for and our form has just gone off a cliff. That’s what I mean by a shame. I also wasn’t expecting anything out of this season so to even be in the hunt has been good. It's been a massive improvement over last season and much better than any of us expected. Yes we've run out of steam, but that happens and we've had very little luck with injuries, red cards or VAR either.
I'll take that happily after our dreadful 22/23 and last summers transfer madness. All about perspective.
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ChocolateFrog said:
In other news. Leverkusen got another 97th minute leveller to remain unbeaten.
It's getting ridiculous now.https://twitter.com/Football__Tweet/status/1784288...
type-r said:
Love Alonso but I doubt my heart would have been able to withstand that game after game... 
Flip Martian said:
type-r said:
Love Alonso but I doubt my heart would have been able to withstand that game after game... 
Oh I dunno. I think the "concede first but then turn the game around" plan has finally had its chips today. And my heart stopped getting excited when we played a few weeks ago.
It'll be nice to have a tighter defence next season, hopefully. Although Slot plays a similar attacking style. So I guess I should really say "it'll be nice to get back to having a working attack next season".
It'll be nice to have a tighter defence next season, hopefully. Although Slot plays a similar attacking style. So I guess I should really say "it'll be nice to get back to having a working attack next season".
So Villa drew with Chelsea, which means 3rd place is all but mathematically ours. Villa would need to win all 3 remaining games, us to lose all 3, and Villa to make up a 20 goal deficit on GD. So at least we did qualify for CL next season. Maybe that gives the DoF some extra cash to spend, should it be required. I doubt we'll be buying many this summer though, maybe a couple. Teams that buy nobody don't tend to do too well.
From The Times:
>Arne Slot will be appointed as Liverpool’s new head coach rather than manager as Anfield prepares for a shift away from the traditional British football club structure.
>The Dutchman, 45, is expected to be happy with that status, having spent his coaching career working in the same head coach/sporting director model that Liverpool are poised to adopt.
>Like all the candidates Liverpool spoke to during their process of recruiting Jürgen Klopp’s successor, Slot is presently a head coach rather than a manager. The plan is for him to focus on coaching and preparing Liverpool’s first team while reporting to a sporting director, Richard Hughes, who will oversee recruitment and other aspects of the football department.
>Above them both will sit Michael Edwards, the former Liverpool sporting director who returned to the club last month as chief executive of football. Liverpool believe the new structure is more appropriate to the complexities and demands of the modern game and that it will give the man in charge of their first team — the head coach — more support to do his job, not less.
>Arne Slot will be appointed as Liverpool’s new head coach rather than manager as Anfield prepares for a shift away from the traditional British football club structure.
>The Dutchman, 45, is expected to be happy with that status, having spent his coaching career working in the same head coach/sporting director model that Liverpool are poised to adopt.
>Like all the candidates Liverpool spoke to during their process of recruiting Jürgen Klopp’s successor, Slot is presently a head coach rather than a manager. The plan is for him to focus on coaching and preparing Liverpool’s first team while reporting to a sporting director, Richard Hughes, who will oversee recruitment and other aspects of the football department.
>Above them both will sit Michael Edwards, the former Liverpool sporting director who returned to the club last month as chief executive of football. Liverpool believe the new structure is more appropriate to the complexities and demands of the modern game and that it will give the man in charge of their first team — the head coach — more support to do his job, not less.
Makes sense. Klopp seemed rather more involved (and to want to be rather more involved) in recruitment and other aspects. I guess that’s what the club meant by “not looking for a Klopp-like straight replacement”.
Should mean more stability between coaching appointments too, should they happen.
Should mean more stability between coaching appointments too, should they happen.
Flip Martian said:
Makes sense. Klopp seemed rather more involved (and to want to be rather more involved) in recruitment and other aspects. I guess that’s what the club meant by “not looking for a Klopp-like straight replacement”.
Should mean more stability between coaching appointments too, should they happen.
Sounds very risky. Could be like Brendan again if the rumours there was correct. Coach says I want this person for my tactics, those above say no person x is better… it probably means less big swings when changing managers, but think there is a lot of risk with it. Should mean more stability between coaching appointments too, should they happen.
NRS said:
Sounds very risky. Could be like Brendan again if the rumours there was correct. Coach says I want this person for my tactics, those above say no person x is better… it probably means less big swings when changing managers, but think there is a lot of risk with it.
Exactly what happened with Rogers. He wants player A; he's offered a choice between players B and C. He then 'had the final say' on transfers, but it masked the reality of what was going onworldwidewebs said:
NRS said:
Sounds very risky. Could be like Brendan again if the rumours there was correct. Coach says I want this person for my tactics, those above say no person x is better… it probably means less big swings when changing managers, but think there is a lot of risk with it.
Exactly what happened with Rogers. He wants player A; he's offered a choice between players B and C. He then 'had the final say' on transfers, but it masked the reality of what was going onSeems like Klopp was then a part of the structure involving Edwards but there was clearly tension there over time, given how Edwards and then his replacement left. Reading between the lines it appears Slot has been employed in a different role to Klopp, 1 that Slot is used to, so 1 would hope those tensions in the past are now irrelevant. I guess we'll see. Can't always guarantee bringing expensive strangers together will work.
I'm less worried about Slot and more about our DoF, who came from Brighton. Hopefully he will step up ok.
Edited by Flip Martian on Sunday 28th April 09:55
SydneyBridge said:
We will see how the head coach arrangement works in 12/24 months time
PS. spurs can still overtake us as they have 6 games left, including us, but what odds on spurs winning 6 in a row
After sPS. spurs can still overtake us as they have 6 games left, including us, but what odds on spurs winning 6 in a row
tting the bed against Chelsea back in Nov they've lost more than half their games in all comps, so seems highly unlikely. Didn't Newcastle spank them 4-0 last time out? On the head coach thing, I have no issue with that. Let him focus on the playing side of things as that's where we need work, and let the analysts and more experienced team worry about recruitment. I'm sure he'll get a certain amount of input, and if it doesn't work out with Slot then a lot easier to extricate him from things and bring in a replacement.
I think Slot will still have a say in who he wants. Whilst we don't know the internal mechanics, I'd hope it was something along the likes of: Slot identifies the TYPE of player he wants: fast, young, maybe fluent in English. Perhaps even names a few players. Richard Hughes then takes the coaches requirements and scours the market for potential players that could be available, looks at the data analysis, identify who are young enough, experienced enough, available at a market rate with some sell-on potential and a good injury history too. Draws up a 3 player short-list with ceiling transfer spend on each. Slot prioritises the players in order and to his preference, budget required is reviewed and signed off Edwards, Hughes then approaches each club with potential offer. Negotiation ensues, player(s) agree terms, Slot has final say who he wants.
Basically Slot I would hope is still active in the process but all the negotiation and budget approval stuff is left to Hughes and Edwards.
Basically Slot I would hope is still active in the process but all the negotiation and budget approval stuff is left to Hughes and Edwards.
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