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E38Ross
10,605 posts
82 months
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Mermaid said: Scuffers said: you buy an RS4 cause it's a practical everyday family car, if you are going to get bothered about XYZ being faster, RS4 is not for you. Well put. exactly. or to put it another way, if you went for an evo you'd be driving it and see an RS4 and think "he could just about keep up with me in a car which can carry his family, his dog and luggage etc and a car which is comfortable for daily use too" the RS4 is a lovely car, they have their faults but generally they seem pretty reliable. my friends has only had 3-4 problems (only 2 of those were big....suspension being the biggest) in the 80k (ish) miles that he's had it for now.
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ATM
3,131 posts
89 months
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sulli said: S4 uprated brakes How do I do that?
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Welshbeef
13,180 posts
68 months
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Talk you out of it.
Well the B5 2.7 v6 TT is a better buy and can be much quicker
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Chr1sch
1,575 posts
63 months
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A mate works for Audi and my god the bills on these for suspension and braked are huge! Apparently also very prone to getting coked up inlets which become very restrictive
However the biggest issue by far is that everyone tries to steal them. I live in a low crime area yet I know of 2 RS4's that have had house break in's trying to get keys
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Mermaid
12,660 posts
41 months
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Chr1sch said: A mate works for Audi and my god the bills on these for suspension and braked are huge! Apparently also very prone to getting coked up inlets which become very restrictive
The costs have to be compared to those for BMW M3 CSL's and 996 GT3 - all cars in the same sort of space.
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djdestiny
1,423 posts
48 months
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Welshbeef said: Talk you out of it.
Well the B5 2.7 v6 TT is a better buy and can be much quicker This! It looks better and is rarer too. Oh, and it sounds better 
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Scuffers
10,496 posts
144 months
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djdestiny said: Welshbeef said: Talk you out of it.
Well the B5 2.7 v6 TT is a better buy and can be much quicker This! It looks better and is rarer too. Oh, and it sounds better can't agree with that... Had a B5, great engine and box let down by a poor chassis, at the time, IMHO it was worse than the then B5 2.8Q. I only kept it for ~8 months before chopping it in, just could not live with the tramlining, brakes (that pitched left or right randomly), and crap ride quality.
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E38Ross
10,605 posts
82 months
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Mermaid said: The costs have to be compared to those for BMW M3 CSL's and 996 GT3 - all cars in the same sort of space. Not sure about suspension but the brakes are a fair bit more than the m3's if you take both cars do dealers. May vary from dealer to dealer but front discs and pads were £300 more for the RS4. The extended warranty is also about 2x the price on the RS4, oddly. From what I can see the rs4 is certainly more expensive than an e92 m3 to run, but neither are what you'd call cheap!
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Mermaid
12,660 posts
41 months
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E38Ross said: Mermaid said: The costs have to be compared to those for BMW M3 CSL's and 996 GT3 - all cars in the same sort of space. Not sure about suspension but the brakes are a fair bit more than the m3's if you take both cars do dealers. May vary from dealer to dealer but front discs and pads were £300 more for the RS4. The extended warranty is also about 2x the price on the RS4, oddly. From what I can see the rs4 is certainly more expensive than an e92 m3 to run, but neither are what you'd call cheap! CSL's I am sure they too have their problems - brakes cheaper but do they work well? And problems with clutch/SMG expensive to fix. Engines seem robust. GT3's -oil leaks? All these highly strung cars have cost issues - a Honda Jazz is best for low cost motoring.
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djdestiny
1,423 posts
48 months
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Scuffers said: can't agree with that...
Had a B5, great engine and box let down by a poor chassis, at the time, IMHO it was worse than the then B5 2.8Q.
I only kept it for ~8 months before chopping it in, just could not live with the tramlining, brakes (that pitched left or right randomly), and crap ride quality. I'm on my 3rdB5 and none have done any of those (2xS4, 1xRS4)
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JulesB
509 posts
29 months
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Chr1sch said: Apparently also very prone to getting coked up inlets which become very restrictive
All the more reason to give them a healthy sprint roud to 150mph to clean it through  (also handy when you want to clean the exhaust) 
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E38Ross
10,605 posts
82 months
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Mermaid said: The costs have to be compared to those for BMW M3 CSL's and 996 GT3 - all cars in the same sort of space. Not sure about suspension but the brakes are a fair bit more than the m3's if you take both cars do dealers. May vary from dealer to dealer but front discs and pads were £300 more for the RS4. The extended warranty is also about 2x the price on the RS4, oddly. From what I can see the rs4 is certainly more expensive than an e92 m3 to run, but neither are what you'd call cheap!
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djdestiny
1,423 posts
48 months
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JulesB said: All the more reason to give them a healthy sprint roud to 150mph to clean it through (also handy when you want to clean the exhaust) That only helps to keep it from getting coked up again, you still need it all cleaning out by hand first
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graeme4130
875 posts
51 months
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E38Ross said: Mermaid said: The costs have to be compared to those for BMW M3 CSL's and 996 GT3 - all cars in the same sort of space. Not sure about suspension but the brakes are a fair bit more than the m3's if you take both cars do dealers. May vary from dealer to dealer but front discs and pads were £300 more for the RS4. The extended warranty is also about 2x the price on the RS4, oddly. From what I can see the rs4 is certainly more expensive than an e92 m3 to run, but neither are what you'd call cheap! I can tell you from a recent experience that RS4 front discs are a little over £1k at a dealer and front pads just under £300 This isnt so far off an E9* M3 and certainly comparible to other cars of similar performance/weight in the market, no ? They're very different cars though - I had an extended dealer drive in a 4dr M3 V8. The engine was equally as good as my RS4's, but it's a different beast of a car. The RS4 is a safe family car that slips under he radar of most people yet can be driven hard safely in all conditions, whereas the M3 makes you want to drive like a hooligan Of course, there's nothing wrong with this, but for me the decision was clear that I wanted the 4wd and estate and lots of safe overtaking potential in the damp, so trying an M3 was just to scratch an itch. Fwiw, I'd say the RS4 is faster in 80% of conditions and roads than either the E92 m3 or a few E60 M5's I tried too. The B5 was a fine car, but I feel looks like a pre2000 car, which of course it is. Saving point is that some of the early ones will soon be subject to classic car insurance as they creep over 15yrs old over the next couple of years As said before, with not a massive outlay, the B5 2.7TT can be tuned to be a really very quick car
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Scuffers
10,496 posts
144 months
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djdestiny said: Scuffers said: can't agree with that...
Had a B5, great engine and box let down by a poor chassis, at the time, IMHO it was worse than the then B5 2.8Q.
I only kept it for ~8 months before chopping it in, just could not live with the tramlining, brakes (that pitched left or right randomly), and crap ride quality. I'm on my 3rdB5 and none have done any of those (2xS4, 1xRS4) Well, if it makes a difference, mine was one of the first S4's....
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E38Ross
10,605 posts
82 months
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Yeah, front discs and pads he paid 1100 for the RS4, the M3 was 800 iirc.
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graeme4130
875 posts
51 months
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djdestiny said: Dave Hedgehog said: RS4 charged is over 600bhp  Its also a stupid amount of £ to do it! £15-18k done properly. Makes for a rapid car, but you'd want it to be a keeper for that outlay as you're certainly not getting much back come resale.. In fact, I don't think I've seen an SC RS4 come up for sale for quite some time
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b1tch1n
5 posts
13 months
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I just bought a B7 RS4 Saloon 3 weeks ago. I do probably equivalent mileage as yourself and all I can see is that if you can do it you should. I talked myself out of it over and over and in the end I just delayed buying this awesome motor. I shopped around and found a under 46k mileage 1 owner car.
So worth it. We look forward to seeing the pics of your potential new motor.
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Dave Hedgehog
5,321 posts
74 months
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graeme4130 said: djdestiny said: Dave Hedgehog said: RS4 charged is over 600bhp Its also a stupid amount of £ to do it! £15-18k done properly. Makes for a rapid car, but you'd want it to be a keeper for that outlay as you're certainly not getting much back come resale.. In fact, I don't think I've seen an SC RS4 come up for sale for quite some time as it should be any serious investment into any car in mods should always be with a view of long term ownership, you never get the money back but what a daily runabout
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k-ink
4,709 posts
49 months
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I'm sure it would be impressive but then so would a 997TT for the same or less outlay.
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