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big_rob_sydney
1,265 posts
64 months
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Finally, we seem to be getting somewhere.
@Mctickle - daft. Yes, thats exactly right. Keep following that idea, and the light you see wont actually be an oncoming train. We have already discussed the fallacy (Phallacy for Vinnie) of composition. Try to keep up.
@Groundeffect - Markets comprise all manner of buyers and sellers. Believe it or not, they are not all logical. If others wish to buy new and take the depreciation hit, good for them. I do not think it a good idea personally, but thats just me. And yes, I think buying a car with a small amount of depreciation ahead may not be a bad idea. Total cost of ownership; if only some people can see past the short term, it might do them some favours down the track.
@Vinnie - yes, believe it or not, I view vehicle purchases with resale in mind. You seem to be calling it against common sense. Maybe that says more about you?
There is no getting around it Vinnie; this is a very expensive car, and it will depreciate heavily.
If you can magically change depreciation in a mature market, there are fleet buyers around the world who would love to hear from you.
Unfortunately, I dont think that will happen any time soon.
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E38Ross
10,605 posts
82 months
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Rob - regards viewing your car purchase with resale in mind.... A shame as you'll unlikely ever own your dream car, whatever that is. Unless it's a 2nd hand subaru of course.
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mollytherocker
7,215 posts
79 months
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E38Ross said: Rob - regards viewing your car purchase with resale in mind.... A shame as you'll unlikely ever own your dream car, whatever that is. Unless it's a 2nd hand subaru of course. My dream cars are appreciating! Its the massive purchase cost thats the problem! MTR
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MrTickle
1,485 posts
109 months
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You ever been in politics big rob?
I am amazed how you can respond with such long comments, none of which actually address what is being presented to you!
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big_rob_sydney
1,265 posts
64 months
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E38Ross said: Rob - regards viewing your car purchase with resale in mind.... A shame as you'll unlikely ever own your dream car, whatever that is. Unless it's a 2nd hand subaru of course. As far as investment decisions go, new modern cars are invariably crap as long term investments. Way too many of them built. Plenty of interesting cars in the second hand market though. The 22B cost me 11k in the UK, and is insured here in Sydney for the equivalent of 80k. Having dual citizenship has its benefits. Next, I'd like to look at a 360 modena as a test. ~40k in the UK, can translate to silly money here. Have a look at the Redbook (our equivalent to parkers). Do your own cars go up in value similarly?
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big_rob_sydney
1,265 posts
64 months
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MrTickle said: You ever been in politics big rob?
I am amazed how you can respond with such long comments, none of which actually address what is being presented to you! Let me summarise the general position some people have: 1. Porsche is good because its porsche 2. Refer back to 1. Add a bunch of subjective crap, ignore empirical data such as performance benchmarks, and overlook massive depreciation. Return to points 1 and 2. And if that doesnt work, swear at people who disagree. In response, I have laid out the empirical data. We also live in an age of soundbites. I apologise if you want a short answer and I am not accomodating. If you wish to argue over subjectivity, I'm not interested.
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E38Ross
10,605 posts
82 months
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big_rob_sydney said: Let me summarise the general position some people have:
1. Porsche is good because its porsche
2. Refer back to 1.
Add a bunch of subjective crap, ignore empirical data such as performance benchmarks, and overlook massive depreciation. Return to points 1 and 2. And if that doesnt work, swear at people who disagree.
In response, I have laid out the empirical data.
We also live in an age of soundbites. I apologise if you want a short answer and I am not accomodating. If you wish to argue over subjectivity, I'm not interested. I'm calling either troll, or someone who has never, ever been in a 911 let alone driven one.
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RemyMartin
1,081 posts
75 months
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I'm calling a sanctimonious t  t.
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greggy50
3,250 posts
61 months
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RemyMartin said: I'm calling a sanctimonious t t. He just comes across as the sort of person you would want to punch...
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