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Roo

5,866 posts

76 months

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I average 55MPG out of my Prius ('07 model) but have also regularly seen it showing 60+.

The later 1.8 is better on fuel but will be out of your price range at the moment.

They're not everyones cup of tea though.

fangio

505 posts

103 months

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Don't rate the build quality. My mate's son has an 08 model and the spoiler came off in a car wash! (I know!!!)

Grey gaffer tape does NOT go with pearl white.....

KrazyIvan

2,520 posts

44 months

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Roo said:
I average 55MPG out of my Prius ('07 model) but have also regularly seen it showing 60+.
Is that on the motorway at 70mph?

AnotherClarkey

1,556 posts

58 months

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KrazyIvan said:
Roo said:
I average 55MPG out of my Prius ('07 model) but have also regularly seen it showing 60+.
Is that on the motorway at 70mph?
Mine does about 53mpg at a (true) 70mph. Going much faster than 80 sees it take a dive.

philmots

2,502 posts

129 months

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A guy I work with does a near 100 mile round trip commute (mainly motorway) bought a Prius.

Flogged it after 3 months as it was only just hitting very early 40's doing 70ish..

Now in a Leon 1.6tdi doing 60's.
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Pixelpeep

821 posts

11 months

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parapaul said:
If she's doing 20k p.a. and mostly motorway, that's perfect for a diesel lump. I don't know, but I would imagine that a lot of the Prius' economy comes from town driving where the electric drivetrain can be used - on the motorway it will be no better or worse than any other petrol hatchback.
this.The current group of Toyota/Honda hybrids are useless on motorways. I had an insight (shudder) for a week couldn't get the thing above 25mpg

AnotherClarkey

1,556 posts

58 months

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I suppose it is worth pointing out that putting an auto box (as the OP wants) on a diesel absolutely murders the economy in many cases. Have a look on a site like spritmonitor - the losses can be huge.

kambites

32,864 posts

90 months

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Matt UK said:
kambites said:
A (current generation, if that's what you're considering) Prius will do MUCH more than 40mpg on the motorway. Should be more than 60mpg if driven sensibly (ie at the speed limit).
Really? I assumed the mpg gains were really brought home around towm as at mway speeds it would be working in exactly the same way as a regular petrol engine?

Not trolling, just curious as I no very little about hybrids.
It's not the hybridness of it as such, but a combination of the Atkinson Cycle engine and very good aerodynamics, that gives it decent motorway economy. Of course the weight of the batteries ceases to be a disadvantage at constant speed, so whilst it might not help much, the presence of the hybrid bit of the drive isn't really doing any harm.

I can only imagine that those saying that it's rubbish on the motorway haven't actually tried it and are just regurgitating the biased rubbish that Top Gear spouts, because I managed to get something like 50 US mpg (about 70 UK mpg?) out of one over the course of a two-week hire period without particularly trying.

ETA: OK 50 US is more like 60 UK, but that's still not bad for a car of that size.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 26th June 18:01

kambites

32,864 posts

90 months

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philmots said:
A guy I work with does a near 100 mile round trip commute (mainly motorway) bought a Prius.

Flogged it after 3 months as it was only just hitting very early 40's doing 70ish..
It was broken then, unless it was the generation before last.

Pixelpeep

821 posts

11 months

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could be worse, could end up with the CVT gearbox and watch any acceleration you might have had die in the mix of slip and noise.

(note: i do actually like the CVT gearbox for someone that just poodles around.. it was even iirc 0.3mpg better than the manual in the jazz)

kambites

32,864 posts

90 months

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Pixelpeep said:
this.The current group of Toyota/Honda hybrids are useless on motorways. I had an insight (shudder) for a week couldn't get the thing above 25mpg
The Insight is not the Prius (and is indeed, apparently, rubbish).

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 26th June 17:49

Pixelpeep

821 posts

11 months

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kambites said:
Pixelpeep said:
this.The current group of Toyota/Honda hybrids are useless on motorways. I had an insight (shudder) for a week couldn't get the thing above 25mpg
The Insight is not the Prius (and is indeed, apparently, rubbish).

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 26th June 17:49
Yeh i get that, i was just using the insight as an example of how both cars behave on motorways..

admittedly i have no actual data on how the toyota would score in similar conditions - but i do know if you are constantly on the power the system doesn't get any coasting/breaking energy redirection and therefore after a few miles you'll be left with a small petrol engine working its nuts off to maintain motorway+ sociabele acceptable increase speeds.

if i had to choose between the toyota and honda it would be the toyota all day long, and i worked for honda!

kambites

32,864 posts

90 months

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Pixelpeep said:
admittedly i have no actual data on how the toyota would score in similar conditions - but i do know if you are constantly on the power the system doesn't get any coasting/breaking energy redirection and therefore after a few miles you'll be left with a small petrol engine working its nuts off to maintain motorway+ sociabele acceptable increase speeds.
It's a 1.8, so it's hardly small. It's also one of the most aerodynamic cars in its class, and runs on a different combustion cycle to a conventional petrol engine in order to increase efficiency.

I do have experience of a Prius on the motorway and it's roughly on a par with the best diesels of similar power in similar sized cars. Certainly more economical per unit cost or per unit fuel energy than any diesel I've ever driven.

thinfourth2

23,546 posts

73 months

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chrisispringles said:
They also depreciate very heavily as nobody really knows how long the batteries last with everyday use and they are very expensive to replace. .
Oh this for sure

They have only been on the market for over 12 years so no one has a clue how much they will be worth when they are 3 years old and its very doubtful if the battery will even last to 3 years


I'm going to make my millions by setting up a company to refurbish all these dead battery packs

This time next year i'll be a millionaire


Pixelpeep

821 posts

11 months

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kambites said:
I do have experience of a Prius on the motorway and it's roughly on a par with the best diesels of similar power in similar sized cars. Certainly more economical per unit cost or per unit fuel energy than any diesel I've ever driven.
fair enough smile

JonnyVTEC

859 posts

44 months

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Its not a regular engine, its an Atkinson cycle made tolerable by the electric motor assist hence normal cars dont use it. Well other than the new Micra but thats supercharged and hence a Miller cycle.

Over expansion of the exhaust strole and high static compression ratio makes it more efficient that a normal Otto petrol engine.

Matt UK said:
Really? I assumed the mpg gains were really brought home around towm as at mway speeds it would be working in exactly the same way as a regular petrol engine?

Not trolling, just curious as I no very little about hybrids.

JonnyVTEC

859 posts

44 months

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KrazyIvan said:
At 70 - 80 mph they are not using the electric motor at all, so you lugging all that weight around for no benefit.
Much like a diesel cast iron block, turbo and intercooler then?

AnotherClarkey

1,556 posts

58 months

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JonnyVTEC said:
KrazyIvan said:
At 70 - 80 mph they are not using the electric motor at all, so you lugging all that weight around for no benefit.
Much like a diesel cast iron block, turbo and intercooler then?
What extra weight is that anyway? Prius gen. 2 1300kg, Golf V tdi auto 1425kg - and the Prius is much more spacious, wafty and refined.

JonnyVTEC

859 posts

44 months

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It's the difficult to manage 'conjecture' weight.

BE57 TOY

815 posts

16 months

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FoundOnRoadside said:
She's cheap. Russianbrides.com?

Prius is fine if you're using them for their intended use around town, not doing two lengths of the M6 at 95mph every day as seems the case with company reps.
Diesel if this

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