People keep mentioning mustang engine. I'd just like to point out that Ford 5.0 and LS variety aren't the only american V8 engines and not all of them are tuned the same level as in a Mustang. Just sayin.
They are however mass market common engines rather than top of the line limited production engines.
The 5.7 and 6.1 Hemi's from Chrysler are also superb. As are many of the V6's that are offered by all 3 companies.
The biggest difference is they don't delude themselves that hp/litre is the winning ticket for everything. So are happy to use a lower tuned larger displacement engine. But often it's because the character of the engine simply suits the vehicles, roads and topography of the USA more so.
If you're winding your way up and down the mountains all day long at 8000 feet above sea level, a highly strung small displacement engine that requires you to be at 6000rpm all the time would be bloody tiring, vs a grunty lowly tuned larger displacement engine that will happily perform as well at only 3000rpm.
It is, however, true that US has woken up a bit and power is steadily going up over the past few years.
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The Yanks have ALWAYS been way ahead on the power front. Hell in the 60's they had standard production cars with over 300hp (even taking into account GROSS ratings). Even in the dark days of the late 70's you could still buy a 200hp/300ft lb Trans Am. 200hp!!! Europe didn't see power levels like that until the early 1990's for the average Jo Bloggs to buy.
As for Mustang does indeed present good value for money but frankly I'd rather pay a little bit more and get an interior that doesn't act as a deterrent.
Sorry but that is one stupid thing to say. People simply can't buy what they can't afford.
Current Mustang GT is available new in the UK for £31k with 420hp. What vehicle offers even similar HP/performance for just a little more money that has a massively superior interior?
As for the interior itself - what exactly is wrong with it? An e46 M3 is no better and far more dull and boring looking inside.
After all, I do spend most of my car-time inside.
And at the end of the day, the best interiors I've seen were Italian (Maserati Quattroporte Evoluzione to be precise) and I don't expect that for 30k... but I'd expect, say, BMW (3 series for 24k+) interior materials, or something slightly worse.
You see this is exactly what I said earlier - Mondeo money for M3 performance but with a £70k interior - it ain't going to happen.
For the same money you WILL NOT buy the same HP and performance. There has to be a trade off somewhere.
Also having owned a few BMW 3 Series (and been in many more) I really can't see the fuss over the interior. Just as cheap feeling as all others and usually send you to sleep boring to look at.
Old school cars are fewer now cause almost everything had a V8 in the old days.
No it didn't.
That's just the stereotypical bulls
t somebody who knows nothing about such cars would say.
No everyone lives in Colorado to worry about 8k performance.
As for me being mental - remember late 70s and then 80s? Where's the power? In 145BHP 5 liter V8?
If you don't see a difference between Mustang and 3 series interior then lucky you.
For some reason you keep claiming that I'm expecting 70k interior in 30k car. I'm not. I never said I did.
Why do you people have to be so defensive? Geeez H Christ, seriously. A little bit of distance, this isn't a holy war.
Also, 1st you say about hp not being the winning ticket and then further down main pro of a mustang is... hp (for the money).
Yes, I'm stereotypical and I know nothing about cars, I defer to your superior knowledge oh all knowing oracle. Nice talking to you.