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LewisR
489 posts
84 months
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JMF894 said: A true petrolhead doesn't question the point of something like this, they applaud the fact that it can exist. Everyone else congragates at their local Maccy Dees in their over spoilered, underpowered biscuit tin  Tongue in cheek of course! Believe me, I am a true petrol head but I still can't stand this car. I occasionally eat at McDonald's.
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GTRene
7,763 posts
93 months
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loevely this 350hp little devils car  
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Arun_D
1,669 posts
64 months
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I used to see one just like this regularly out and about when I was at uni in Loughborough. Great looking car in the metal and his one sounded bonkers too.
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GarryA
2,476 posts
33 months
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Amazing how no-one would blink at paying £32k for a Sierra Cosworth or E30 M3, when this is probably 100 x the fun of both.
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Hoygo
659 posts
30 months
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LewisR said: Furthermore, I accepted that it was a homologation vehicle but the mispelling, non-quoting "dude" missed that point too.
I still can't see the appeal of it one jot, especially at £32k. I bow down to your higher spelling ability but my comment was directed to your first comment as i didn't see your second one and the ones that commented later (page not refreshing every 1 second),still if you knew a little bit more about motorsport you would appreciate these cars as any other real petrolhead does,in fact worship the Group B cars (as these were its road going models).
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LotusOmega375D
2,115 posts
22 months
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I owned mine for 14 years (1994 - 2008). On the road all year round as a garaged second car. Used to eat clutches (expensive), but never needed any engine work. Brakes appalling. Used it for our 3 week honeymoon in Corsica, SE France and NW Italy. Also trip to N Spain. Fabulous car and eventually sold it for the purchase price + all maintenance costs, so "free" motoring for 14 years (disregarding inflation and petrol/MOT/insurance costs). Unfortunately it's now worth at least twice as much!
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BaronVonVaderham
569 posts
16 months
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Was at Oulton Park Gold Cup this weekend and was woken up by one of these on saturday morning being driven off a trailer next to me. Best sounding alarm ever. Was in the gold/black/white Diac livery 
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LotusOmega375D
2,115 posts
22 months
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BaronVonVaderham said: Was at Oulton Park Gold Cup this weekend and was woken up by one of these on saturday morning being driven off a trailer next to me. Best sounding alarm ever. Was in the gold/black/white Diac livery Possibly Neil Brighton's car. - * whisper ** it used to be an R5 GTL!!!
James Hoseason of boating holiday fame also had one (real).
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LewisR
489 posts
84 months
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Hoygo said: LewisR said: Furthermore, I accepted that it was a homologation vehicle but the mispelling, non-quoting "dude" missed that point too.
I still can't see the appeal of it one jot, especially at £32k. I bow down to your higher spelling ability but my comment was directed to your first comment as i didn't see your second one and the ones that commented later (page not refreshing every 1 second),still if you knew a little bit more about motorsport you would appreciate these cars as any other real petrolhead does,in fact worship the Group B cars (as these were its road going models). Oh, I was/am a huge fan of Group B when it was active and veritably salivate at the UR Quatrro (IMO, the best rally car ever), the Lancia 037 and the RS200. I was totally glued to that 2 hour documentary on Group B and the tragedy that befell Toivonen & Cresto but IMO, this Renault doesn't really rate as a great rally car.
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monthefish
15,709 posts
100 months
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LewisR said: Horrible, horrible, horrible.
Just what is the point? It's a hot(ish) hatch without being able to use the hatch-thing.
It's the worst of both worlds; the small space of a 2 seater with the looks of a hatchback. It's only [nominally] 160bhp too.
The Sierra Cosworth was out in '86 (just). Its a fair point, and the same ciricism could be levelled at the V6 Clios (why not buy an equally fast normal RenaultSport Clio?), but that doesn't stop these from being wonderful machines, and I for one, love them I suppose it's a bit like the transit vans with engines in the load bay. What's the point of a transit that can't carry stuff? None. It's just cool.
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LotusOmega375D
2,115 posts
22 months
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LewisR said: Oh, I was/am a huge fan of Group B when it was active and veritably salivate at the UR Quatrro (IMO, the best rally car ever), the Lancia 037 and the RS200. I was totally glued to that 2 hour documentary on Group B and the tragedy that befell Toivonen & Cresto but IMO, this Renault doesn't really rate as a great rally car. On dry Tarmac the Maxi was the fastest of all Group B cars. It even left the 205 T16 Evo for dead on the way to winning the Tour de Corse. Renault only entered a few events due to F1 commitments and the known short-comings on loose surface events. 3 WRC event wins are 3 more than the RS200 & Metro 6R4 put together.
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monthefish
15,709 posts
100 months
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GTRene said: loevely this 350hp little devils car
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Bash Brannigan
148 posts
56 months
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LewisR said: Bash Brannigan said: decadence said: LewisR said: Horrible, horrible, horrible.
Just what is the point? It's a hot(ish) hatch without being able to use the hatch-thing.
It's the worst of both worlds; the small space of a 2 seater with the looks of a hatchback. It's only [nominally] 160bhp too.
The Sierra Cosworth was out in '86 (just). Crikey if we all thought like you we'd all be driving round in eco friendly people carriers....... its precisely the "whats the point" reasons you point out, why i like this car! Its got a historical context in rallying and motorsport and is just achingly handsome as a car....awesome. For me purely a forza 4 plaything though... He also missed that the car has been tuned, so it's 210bhp. You lot also missed reading my post properly. I said it only NOMINALLY has 160bhp. I ALSO said that the Cosworth Sierra was out in '86, which isn't much of an eco-friendly people carrier either. Furthermore, I accepted that it was a homologation vehicle but the mispelling, non-quoting "dude" missed that point too. I still can't see the appeal of it one jot, especially at £32k. I ignored the word 'nominally' because this is a ridiculous context in which to use it. I accept that you're trying to say 'in standard trim' but even if you'd said this then you'd have been lampooned for focussing on the performance.
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troc
1,175 posts
44 months
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sumpoil said: i think she was one of the bad guys, so she and the car probably met a sticky end. I believe it is traditionally the good bond girls that meet his sticky end.
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DaveL485
2,419 posts
66 months
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Baryonyx
6,859 posts
28 months
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LewisR said: Oh, I was/am a huge fan of Group B when it was active and veritably salivate at the UR Quatrro (IMO, the best rally car ever), the Lancia 037 and the RS200. I was totally glued to that 2 hour documentary on Group B and the tragedy that befell Toivonen & Cresto but IMO, this Renault doesn't really rate as a great rally car. It was outclassed by the competition but it's still as cool as f  k. Built-for-rallying looks and design. Engine behind you (this is absolutely thrilling too, as I experienced in my MR2 Turbo). The Sierra Cosworth is my favourite car ever, but that was built to wipe the floor with every other touring car of the day (which it did) and to give Ford a new car to be proud of. But that really doesn't have much to do with this bonkers French rally hatch. The Ur Quattro and the 205 T16 may have wiped the floor with it competition wise, but it's still cool for what it is.
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LotusOmega375D
2,115 posts
22 months
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sumpoil said: .... always remember a rather gorgeous young lady in one of the Bond films driving a red Turbo 2 .... i've wanted both ever since  i think she was one of the bad guys, so she and the car probably met a sticky end. I think it's on ITV1 tomorrow afternoon. You get to see a wild 1980s Barbera Carreras, a sweaty Kim Basinger and a Turbo 2 car chase. Apart from that it's a rubbish non-franchised Thunderball remake. So save your time by Youtubing the car chase bit.
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GarryA
2,476 posts
33 months
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zefrog
7 posts
31 months
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friend of mine use to have before his brother crashed it because of the famous turbo overrun. so many t2 hass been destroyed at corners exit in france because of it... but a nice car to drive, never been passed when i was driving it 
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magician
11 posts
9 months
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LotusOmega375D said: LewisR said: Oh, I was/am a huge fan of Group B when it was active and veritably salivate at the UR Quatrro (IMO, the best rally car ever), the Lancia 037 and the RS200. I was totally glued to that 2 hour documentary on Group B and the tragedy that befell Toivonen & Cresto but IMO, this Renault doesn't really rate as a great rally car. On dry Tarmac the Maxi was the fastest of all Group B cars. It even left the 205 T16 Evo for dead on the way to winning the Tour de Corse. Renault only entered a few events due to F1 commitments and the known short-comings on loose surface events. 3 WRC event wins are 3 more than the RS200 & Metro 6R4 put together. The RS200 only got to race for 1 year though before group B was abolished, whereas this was raced for 6 years, so that's not really a fair comparison. Apparently the 6R4 raced for even less time than the RS200.
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