Wells Vertige - New British sportscar

Wells Vertige - New British sportscar

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ChevronB19

5,804 posts

164 months

Saturday 27th April
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PRO5T said:
Wheels

I’m thinking more minilites with high profile. It reminds me of a Ginetta G4, but agree also with the earlier comment of the Vallelunga.

number2

4,325 posts

188 months

Saturday 27th April
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Boom78 said:
Unhelpful comment alert…. The wells doesn’t look good at all in my eyes, it looks like some odd generic kit car. I’m glad there’s still low volume manufacturing going on but they’ve missed a trick and up against tough competition, if you’re after a sporty little car £60k puts you in the boxster and cayman crosshairs. You’d have to be half mad.
I agree about the looks. Glad the UK has companies doing this, and people buy them, but not for me either.

I don't think it's a direct substitute for the cars you mention mind you, for most of the people that would be interested anyway.

Skeptisk

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7,540 posts

110 months

Saturday 27th April
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Boom78 said:
Unhelpful comment alert…. The wells doesn’t look good at all in my eyes, it looks like some odd generic kit car. I’m glad there’s still low volume manufacturing going on but they’ve missed a trick and up against tough competition, if you’re after a sporty little car £60k puts you in the boxster and cayman crosshairs. You’d have to be half mad.
Porsche sells more than 300,000 cars a year. Vertige sell 25. I am not sure they are operating in the same market.

otolith

56,265 posts

205 months

Saturday 27th April
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For some buyers, not being the obvious choice will be an additional reason to buy it.

CABC

5,595 posts

102 months

Saturday 27th April
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Sporky said:
How much heavier is a Cayman?

You'd have to be three quarters mad to buy such a lardy tub if what you want is a driver's sports car.

(this post is tongue in cheek)
why tongue in cheek? a Cayman is wonderful, esp with a flat 6. But an MX5 can be more fun much of the time.
The Wells has some visual challenges, but I'm considering trying to buy one. Driven by an enthusiast's passion it might be a great steer, and not provoke the negative reaction from other road users that plagues many German cars.

Sporky

6,346 posts

65 months

Saturday 27th April
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CABC said:
why tongue in cheek?
I did overstate things a bit.

Yaaan

61 posts

114 months

Saturday 27th April
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Boom78 said:
Unhelpful comment alert…. The wells doesn’t look good at all in my eyes, it looks like some odd generic kit car. I’m glad there’s still low volume manufacturing going on but they’ve missed a trick and up against tough competition, if you’re after a sporty little car £60k puts you in the boxster and cayman crosshairs. You’d have to be half mad.
I must be half mad then as mine is currently in build silly

Horses for courses though. I’d never once considered spending any of the money I’ve spent on the Vertige on a Porsche. Undoubtedly good cars but, to me, utterly uninteresting.

It would be boring if we were all the same!

ArgonautX

176 posts

52 months

Saturday 27th April
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I think it looks good enough. With Elise being out of production, there really is no direct competitor on the market. My only wish would be for a 6 cylinder option. Maybe in the future...

Olivera

7,177 posts

240 months

Saturday 27th April
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Boom78 said:
The wells doesn’t look good at all in my eyes, it looks like some odd generic kit car.
It looks exactly what it was probably intended to look like, that is a small 60s sports car like a Ginetta G3 or G4. Not for everyone, but to my eyes it looks great.

On the wheels, I don't mind the size, but it's a modern multi spoke design. Something more period looking would be ace.

otolith

56,265 posts

205 months

Saturday 27th April
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I wonder how a modern wheel design compares to a retro one for weight? I bought a set of lightweight forged alloys for the Elise and they look fairly similar to those.

bcr5784

7,119 posts

146 months

Saturday 27th April
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Yaaan said:
I must be half mad then as mine is currently in build silly

Horses for courses though. I’d never once considered spending any of the money I’ve spent on the Vertige on a Porsche. Undoubtedly good cars but, to me, utterly uninteresting.

It would be boring if we were all the same!
I have only driven a pretty ratty prototype. Have you driven a production car and, if so, what was your impression?

Yaaan

61 posts

114 months

Saturday 27th April
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bcr5784 said:
I have only driven a pretty ratty prototype. Have you driven a production car and, if so, what was your impression?
I’ve not unfortunately (unless mine counts but it’s really only a rolling chassis with an engine…) although I’ve driven the later prototype. There have been significant improvements since then but more around interior refinement, which is greatly improved, and design and system improvements to aid manufacturing efficiency. I’m sure there is plenty of other stuff that’s gone on behind the scenes as well, but it is markedly improved over the prototypes.

GTRene

16,621 posts

225 months

Saturday 27th April
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Yaaan said:
I must be half mad then as mine is currently in build silly

Horses for courses though. I’d never once considered spending any of the money I’ve spent on the Vertige on a Porsche. Undoubtedly good cars but, to me, utterly uninteresting.

It would be boring if we were all the same!
Your a Patriot thumbup

and agree, let them talk about kit Kar, you and I know it is not! it will be a rare sports car, way way more rare then a Porsche boxter/cayman at almost half the weight... and ow, butterfly doors and still 'cheap' , here in the Netherlands because higher and higher almost every year BPM tax on Co2 per gram/km (thats even before normal tax BTW a 21%, the car is around twice the price as in the UK, so you in the UK can buy about 2 for the price of 1 in the Netherlands, let that sink in.

Lester H

2,749 posts

106 months

Sunday 28th April
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Glad to see this thread revival. The looks of the car are in the ‘ horses for courses’ league, as already mentioned. I happen to like it but it would never be a practical proposition for me. But, and it is a big ‘ but’ PHers should be delighted that some small company is doing something different. After all the whole PH scenario started with TVR. Now, a common theme is that cars are too similar/ bulky/ heavy/ a bit ugly, etc…. As with the Grenadier ( whatever you think of the politics) the very existence of it should be applauded.

NathanChadwick

304 posts

42 months

Sunday 28th April
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otolith said:
For some buyers, not being the obvious choice will be an additional reason to buy it.
This x infinity.

The Wells is not for me personally – I doubt I could fit in it – and it's not my personal style, but I'm so glad it's happening and happening well. The kind of person who buys this car will buy it for what it IS, not as an alternative.

And those buyers are to be commended, otherwise what an immensely boring, tedious place the world would be.

swisstoni

17,058 posts

280 months

Sunday 28th April
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Lester H said:
Glad to see this thread revival. The looks of the car are in the ‘ horses for courses’ league, as already mentioned. I happen to like it but it would never be a practical proposition for me. But, and it is a big ‘ but’ PHers should be delighted that some small company is doing something different. After all the whole PH scenario started with TVR. Now, a common theme is that cars are too similar/ bulky/ heavy/ a bit ugly, etc…. As with the Grenadier ( whatever you think of the politics) the very existence of it should be applauded.
Exactly. When TVR took off, Porches, Lotus, et al, were all readily available.
But the people who bought them wanted something a bit different.

I daresay the people who buy these will feel the same way.

Lotobear

6,383 posts

129 months

Sunday 28th April
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PRO5T said:
Wheels

Something like that would be perfect IMO - the old Dunlop style. Even better, steelies with centre locks, a la MGA twincam

Hoofy

76,414 posts

283 months

Sunday 28th April
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swisstoni said:
Lester H said:
Glad to see this thread revival. The looks of the car are in the ‘ horses for courses’ league, as already mentioned. I happen to like it but it would never be a practical proposition for me. But, and it is a big ‘ but’ PHers should be delighted that some small company is doing something different. After all the whole PH scenario started with TVR. Now, a common theme is that cars are too similar/ bulky/ heavy/ a bit ugly, etc…. As with the Grenadier ( whatever you think of the politics) the very existence of it should be applauded.
Exactly. When TVR took off, Porches, Lotus, et al, were all readily available.
But the people who bought them wanted something a bit different.

I daresay the people who buy these will feel the same way.
Yep, it's a bit out of my budget but it's appealing to my way of thinking. Probably explains why I bought a TVR as my first sports car.

Kawasicki

13,096 posts

236 months

Sunday 28th April
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I really like this car… I think wheels a little like this would suit it…

CABC

5,595 posts

102 months

Thursday 2nd May
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bcr5784 said:
Yaaan said:
I must be half mad then as mine is currently in build silly

Horses for courses though. I’d never once considered spending any of the money I’ve spent on the Vertige on a Porsche. Undoubtedly good cars but, to me, utterly uninteresting.

It would be boring if we were all the same!
I have only driven a pretty ratty prototype. Have you driven a production car and, if so, what was your impression?
have you guys looked into insuring one of these?
I'm seriously interested as it represents so many things I want in a sports car. with TVR, Lotus et al there are great value specialist insurers, but then spare parts and knowledge are far more prevalent. this really is niche.