RE: New Polestar 3 unveiled with up to 517hp

RE: New Polestar 3 unveiled with up to 517hp

Thursday 13th October 2022

New Polestar 3 unveiled with up to 517hp

Polestar has been a fairly niche prospect up to this point. Expect that to change in a hurry...


Polestar has a bunch of concepts up in the air at the moment, including a swanky four-door coupe and a roadster, but this is the latest one to make it onto the production line. It’s creatively called the Polestar 3, takes the form of a family crossover and, therefore, will no doubt have people queuing up from miles screaming “take my money!”

This isn’t just some cheap attempt to capitalise on the SUV trend, however - and nor is it just a rebodied XC40 P8 Recharge from sister brand Volvo. Peel back the skin and you’ll find the company’s new SPA2 architecture, a development of the platform that underpins mega Volvos such as the S, V and XC90. It’s all tailor-made for electric power (with eyebrow-raising performance) and, of course, the obligatory suite of semi-autonomous driving modes.

Funny thing is, the Polestar 3 might be an SUV that you’ll actually want to drive, judging by the spec sheet. Standard Long Range cars come with a dual-motor setup that offers a combined 489hp and a suitably electric 620lb ft of torque, sending you from a standstill to 62mph in five seconds dead. There is, however, an optional Performance pack that ups power to 517hp and 671lb ft while shedding 0.3 seconds off the 0-62mph time in the process. Polestar previously announced that the motor setup will be “rear-biased”, with dual-clutch electric torque vectoring for the back axle. Par for the course these days perhaps, but at least it signals that the firm is giving as much thought to handling as it does to styling. 

With that said, the Polestar 3 is, of course, very heavy. The steel platform, bodywork and all the electric gubbins result in a kerbweight of 2,584kg. Hardly a surprise, being a plug-in electric SUV, but it makes for a predictably sophisticated chassis. All Polestar 3s will come with adaptive dual-chamber air suspension and dampers, which are controlled by a computer that makes adjustments every two milliseconds to stop the car from feeling all choppy on a twisty road. There are two ride comfort settings, though any car fitted with the Performance Pack will get a slightly sportier default suspension setup.

All Polestar 3s come with a 111kWh lithium-ion pack under the floor, which is good for a WLTP-rated 379 miles in Long Range form. A heat pump is thrown in as standard, boosting efficiency by using the ambient temperature to warm up the cabin while also pre-heating the battery, preventing any nasty surprises on chilly days. Water cooling is utilised, too, and the battery itself is extremely tough with a boron-reinforced aluminium casing. That should keep the tabloids away in the event of a shunt, then.

Speaking of shunts, the Polestar 3 should, in theory, be very difficult to prang. At launch, all cars will come with five radar modules, five exterior cameras and 12 ‘ultrasonic sensors’ that all feed information to an Nvidia-powered central computer. This handles all the simple semi-autonomous features (lane keeping, emergency braking etc), with a more advanced, LiDAR-equipped Pilot Pack due during the second quarter of 2023. It bundles in even more cameras and sensors that are capable of creating a 3D image of your surroundings, helping “prepare the car for autonomous driving.” Just don’t expect to be driving around London hands-free in the near future.

Things are very techy inside, with a touch of Swedish simplicity. There’s a new, extremely large portrait infotainment system running an upgraded version of the Google-based Android Automotive software found in the Polestar 2. It won’t go out of date either (well, not for a while) as it’ll automatically update Over the Air (OTA), which will also be used to unlock new features further down the road. The cabin design itself is typically minimalist, though the use of wood panelling and light bars across the dash give it a more luxurious feel than the Polestar 2. And, unlike many of its rivals, Polestar has thrown in a 25-speaker Bowers and Wilkins sound system with Dolby Atmos support free of charge. Yes, really.

Oh, we should probably talk about the way it looks, shouldn’t we? The usual Polestar design elements are here, including the signature T-shaped headlights and body-wide light bar, but, interestingly, the ‘grille’ is actually said to be functional. There’s a small opening at the top that channels air over the bonnet, leaving a small floating piece of bodywork – a bit like the V12-engined Yamaha OX990-11 concept from the early 1990s. It’s all done in the name of reducing drag, with the Polestar 3 boasting a coefficient of just 0.296cd. Not bad for a gigantic SUV, though it isn’t quite as slippery as a BMW iX – which also happens to be its closest rival.

Yes, that’s right, the Polestar 3 is mixing it with the big guns with a price tag of £79,900. But, hey, look on the bright side. Polestar likes to keep its options list nice and slim because, it says, fewer extras “easy configuration and simplified production logistics.” How thoughtful. The only options it lists so far is the Performance Pack, coming in at £5,600, and the as-yet-unpriced LiDAR Pilot Pack due next year. Orders are open now, and if you’re one of the early adopters you should have a Polestar 3 on your driveway by the end of next year. A bit of a wait, then, but don't expect that to harm sales one bit...


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ChrisCh86

Original Poster:

857 posts

45 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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Looks nice and cheaper than some of the key competition (BMW iX). Shows that you don't need to have an offensive design (BMW) to look futuristic and different.

Still a big meh from me (wake me up when they sell an estate / wagon), but I'm sure the general public will buy them in their droves (or more likely get one as a company car).

Way outside my affordability range unfortunately... just like every other electric car barring MG!

Edited by ChrisCh86 on Wednesday 12th October 18:25

Lotobear

6,383 posts

129 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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Looks like the Eletre, another Geely product

greggy50

6,170 posts

192 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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Looks good, dont really need the extra space so happy with my 2 but if I had kids it would be high up the list.

Funkstar De Luxe

788 posts

184 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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Really like the look of this. The price point is extremely competitive too. An interesting option.

rare6499

661 posts

140 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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Who is buying these kinds of cars. They all look the same. Dull as dishwater. And yet they cost 80k+!

I’m obviously living in a totally different world to everyone else.

80k to me is a really special car, not a generic SUV to carry the kids around in.


SDK

895 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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Looks awesome - I’ll be ordering as soon as the orders go up.

I have loved my Polestar 2 over the last 2 years, and this is perfect timing for when I need to change it.


rare6499 said:
80k to me is a really special car, not a generic SUV to carry the kids around in.
I get special is different for every person, but this is special, to me anyway.

- Premium luxury interior
- Sporty aero design
- Powerful
- Loaded with tech


Edited by SDK on Wednesday 12th October 19:20

bosshog

1,585 posts

277 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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Looks nice for a family wagon but two things would stop me:

- price
- no physical controls

NDNDNDND

2,024 posts

184 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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Geez, how many years is it going to take to offset the embodied CO2 in that 111kWh battery pack? 5, 6, 7?

How far are we supposed to be from the climate tipping point?

Is it really a good idea to produce half a decades-worth of CO2 in one big lump right now?

herebebeasties

672 posts

220 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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NDNDNDND said:
Geez, how many years is it going to take to offset the embodied CO2 in that 111kWh battery pack? 5, 6, 7?

How far are we supposed to be from the climate tipping point?

Is it really a good idea to produce half a decades-worth of CO2 in one big lump right now?
Quite. 111kWh and it has almost the exact same WLTP range as a Tesla Model 3 LR which is around 78kWh. And which is now a five year old car. It's a much larger car, but I bet it's not as well packaged, so I doubt there's much difference in interior space in practice. No shots of the rear interior seem to be available.

It's time manufacturers/press started quoting kWh/mile efficiency instead of WLTP range. Range over about 300 miles is largely irrelevant. And why can't we have CdA not Cd for drag, as that is what actually matters after all (i.e. taking into to account frontal area). All these dumb articles that pontificate about "low drag coefficients" are baloney.

In addition, the article is wholly inaccurate about the platform. This is not shared with S/V/XC90 at all, and not derived from SPA which underpinned those. It is a dedicated skateboard platform that is shared with the very recently announced EX90, a large electric SUV being sold alongside the XC90 for the time being. It would not surprise me if the S/V90 quietly die a death rather than getting EV replacements. And it is called SEA not SPA2 and is (unsurprisingly) a Geely platform, not a Volvo/Polestar-only one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_Experi...

But hey, who does any research, checking, or even cursory proof-reading of subtitles these days?

Edited by herebebeasties on Wednesday 12th October 19:36

mrclav

1,305 posts

224 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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Lotobear said:
Looks like the Eletre, another Geely product
Nah, not really.






NGK210

2,968 posts

146 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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Like the exterior; hate the bleak interior, especially the oversized iPad, which already looks dated.
Seems the American newbies - Rivian, Tesla, Lucid – are able to get more range and speed from smaller batteries compared to rivals.
V interested to know how / why.

visorfett

14 posts

198 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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Meh. Nothing new to the party really. Slightly sleeker design than most. But still dull. This cutting edge of design that is presumably signed off by hundreds of staff still has a poor dash with a giant iPad. Which is becoming as tedious as the way journalists and the buying public let them get away with it.
And when are they going to realise weight is the enemy of mileage.

monkeymark

40 posts

140 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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The Chinese are certainly knocking it out of the park! I think it looks nice but am getting totally bored of 2+ tonne SUVs costing well over £75k.

AndrewNR

268 posts

123 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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2600kg
£80k+
517bhp and 'only' 0-60 in 4.7 seconds?

Looks incredibly Tesla like inside too - uninspiring.

TWPC

842 posts

162 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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visorfett said:
Meh. Nothing new to the party really. Slightly sleeker design than most. But still dull. This cutting edge of design that is presumably signed off by hundreds of staff still has a poor dash with a giant iPad. Which is becoming as tedious as the way journalists and the buying public let them get away with it.
And when are they going to realise weight is the enemy of mileage.
Agree with all of this.

A 2.5 tonne SUV built in China is so un-zeitgeisty. And digital dashboards are just cheap, designed for the manufacturers’ benefit not drivers. Honda (e.g. the new Civic) and Mazda dashboards are much classier and more ergonomic with their combination of screens, buttons and rotary dials.

Looking forward to PH’s review of the MG4… not hugely exciting but a capable electric family hatch, similar to an ID3 but 2/3 of the price. And… really looking forward to PH’s first review of an electric convertible. That’ll be worth waiting for…

boozyjay

172 posts

67 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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Looks nice and a nice welcome change in the day after me seeing that horrendous M2 this morning.

SDK

895 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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AndrewNR said:
2600kg
£80k+
517bhp and 'only' 0-60 in 4.7 seconds?

Looks incredibly Tesla like inside too - uninspiring.
510bhp and 910 Nm of instant torque is enough for an SUV being used purely on the roads. I'm guessing the 30 - 70mph is pretty quick ! smile

D4rez

1,401 posts

57 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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NDNDNDND said:
Geez, how many years is it going to take to offset the embodied CO2 in that 111kWh battery pack? 5, 6, 7?

How far are we supposed to be from the climate tipping point?

Is it really a good idea to produce half a decades-worth of CO2 in one big lump right now?
On the basis that cars are suddenly going to start getting scrapped at 5 years old?

greggy50

6,170 posts

192 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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herebebeasties said:
NDNDNDND said:
Geez, how many years is it going to take to offset the embodied CO2 in that 111kWh battery pack? 5, 6, 7?

How far are we supposed to be from the climate tipping point?

Is it really a good idea to produce half a decades-worth of CO2 in one big lump right now?
Quite. 111kWh and it has almost the exact same WLTP range as a Tesla Model 3 LR which is around 78kWh. And which is now a five year old car. It's a much larger car, but I bet it's not as well packaged, so I doubt there's much difference in interior space in practice. No shots of the rear interior seem to be available.

It's time manufacturers/press started quoting kWh/mile efficiency instead of WLTP range. Range over about 300 miles is largely irrelevant. And why can't we have CdA not Cd for drag, as that is what actually matters after all (i.e. taking into to account frontal area). All these dumb articles that pontificate about "low drag coefficients" are baloney.

In addition, the article is wholly inaccurate about the platform. This is not shared with S/V/XC90 at all, and not derived from SPA which underpinned those. It is a dedicated skateboard platform that is shared with the very recently announced EX90, a large electric SUV being sold alongside the XC90 for the time being. It would not surprise me if the S/V90 quietly die a death rather than getting EV replacements. And it is called SEA not SPA2 and is (unsurprisingly) a Geely platform, not a Volvo/Polestar-only one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_Experi...

But hey, who does any research, checking, or even cursory proof-reading of subtitles these days?

Edited by herebebeasties on Wednesday 12th October 19:36
I will be amazed if this isnt a fair bit bigger inside than a Model 3. I had one and it wasnt that spacious at all in the back and the boot was average. Its basically the size of a 3 series and a rival for a Polestar 2 not this which is far closer in terms of efficiency (I have owned both).

Model Y claims 330 miles for 80kwh (4.12) and this 380 (3.45) from 110kwh so about 20% less for a car that is bigger and a far more luxurious product so it doesnt sound bad at all to me.

They probably could sell a smaller battery version however with say 80kwh that would do 280 miles which would be plenty for most people. This may come in time as they did with the 2 which launched fully loaded and then became cheaper.

Kwh/mile should be published however I agree even if it does only take a few seconds to work out.

Philz4mc

47 posts

154 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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Can someone explain why no one apart from Tesla makes a big car with a big boot?!?! This is longer than my F Pace SVR which had 650L, longer than Tesla Y with 850L and Polestar can only manage a non kid friendly 480 litres. Same deal with Taycan