RE: First official look at new Range Rover Electric
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ks aside.....most RR breakdowns are mechanical, the far simpler EV powertrain *could* avoid that.blueacid said:
J4CKO said:
I am sure JLR will cease production forthwith based on this momentous and far reaching revelation.
What is it about EVs that brings out the petulant toddler act in middle aged men ?
He's off having a sulk, you'll get a reply soon I guessWhat is it about EVs that brings out the petulant toddler act in middle aged men ?
I am not keen on Prawns but it doesn't upset me that they sell them in Sainsburys
"But you will be forced to eat prawns from 2035", yeah yeah whatever, will have got used to them by then, and if there is nowt else and I am all hungry, hen I will make it work, like if its getting a bus or an EV in the future, a much better EV than we can get now, folk will "get with the program" or will be dead by then anyway.
A.J.M said:
This will be an interesting one to see made.
The Lotus EV thing is huge, but has horrible efficiency which makes it really unappealing.
This is also going to potentially have that same issue.
Can they get real world efficiency into the 3.*
It's only the range that people are really worried about, not efficiency, people don't bat an eye about a Range Rover currently only averaging high twenties / low thirties mpg because it can carry four or five hundred miles worth of fuel in the tank. The Lotus EV thing is huge, but has horrible efficiency which makes it really unappealing.
This is also going to potentially have that same issue.
Can they get real world efficiency into the 3.*
Realistically there's no chance that this will hit 3.x m/kWh unless your doing 30 miles an hour everywhere. The way round this will be to have a battery which is 100 or maybe even 120 kWh. This way even if you're only getting low to mid 2.x m/ kWh you've got 250-300 miles real world range.
Bladedancer said:
Two decades ago you'd drive something well under 2 tonnes and now it'll be well over 3 or perhaps even over 4. Anyone calculated impact of that many more HGVs (yes, that's what you're driving, a lorry) driving on roads, especially local lanes? Or increased tyre and brake usage due to sheer weight? Course not.
Two decades ago a Range Rover weighed over 2 tonnes. And with regenerative braking an EV one will use the brakes less than an ICE one. Tyre wear is also less as torque is delivered in a much smoother fashion.
This is one car where you won’t even notice it’s an EV, least of all through its weight.
Its Just Adz said:
I could be wrong but I can't see this selling in boat loads.
I would imagine that the average Range Rover drivers generally don't care about the fuel cost and won't want the range anxiety from an ev.
I think the opposite. Whilst people think they’re buying RRs to cross continents having adventures, the vast majority of them tool around cities driving their kids to school and the dog to the park. A EV one is perfect, especially when put through the company for the tax breaks. I would imagine that the average Range Rover drivers generally don't care about the fuel cost and won't want the range anxiety from an ev.
Amanitin said:
don't recall anyone in the industry pulling off a successful mass market ICE platform based EV.
They'd might as well just skipped this transition step altogether.
BMW i4, i5They'd might as well just skipped this transition step altogether.
Hyundai Ioniq (original), Kona and Kia equivalents
Stellatis- Vauxhall Corsa, Astra, Peugeot 208, 3008, Citroën equivalents, vans
Nope, none of these sold any at all...
CheesecakeRunner said:
Its Just Adz said:
I could be wrong but I can't see this selling in boat loads.
I would imagine that the average Range Rover drivers generally don't care about the fuel cost and won't want the range anxiety from an ev.
I think the opposite. Whilst people think they’re buying RRs to cross continents having adventures, the vast majority of them tool around cities driving their kids to school and the dog to the park. A EV one is perfect, especially when put through the company for the tax breaks. I would imagine that the average Range Rover drivers generally don't care about the fuel cost and won't want the range anxiety from an ev.
We're thinking about an XC90 when my Q7 falls apart one day. I'd love an RR - having run an L405 for a while, it's electronics reliability quirks gave me pause - but it was a lovely thing. My boring Audi is faultless at the same age. But stopping and fast charging every so often on a trip is no issue whatsoever.
Tha main issue is charging in the mountains. Not a lot of options for fast chargers right now, but that should change.
Its Just Adz said:
I could be wrong but I can't see this selling in boat loads.
I would imagine that the average Range Rover drivers generally don't care about the fuel cost and won't want the range anxiety from an ev.
Range anxiety just isn't a thing anymore. Any long journey, (yeah, I'm sure you can find me the 1% that wont) will pass a motorway service station where numerous fast chargers are popping up. I would imagine that the average Range Rover drivers generally don't care about the fuel cost and won't want the range anxiety from an ev.
Popping to the loo and to get a coffee and a quick check of emails etc will usually yield another 80-100 miles of range. It just takes a bit more planning, and yes, sometimes a bit more time (assuming you cant stop when youd wantva morning coffee or lunch). But then the other 95% of time not doing a long journey you save time not having to visit petrol stations
Edited by covmutley on Wednesday 24th April 07:28
covmutley said:
Range anxiety just isn't a thing anymore. Any long journey, (yeah, I'm sure you can find me the 1% that wont) will pass a motorway service station where numerous fast chargers are popping up.
Popping to the loo and to get a coffee and a quick check of emails etc will usually yield another 80-100 miles of range. It just takes a bit more planning, and yes, sometimes a bit more time (assuming you cant stop when youd wantva morning coffee or lunch). But then the other 95% of time not doing a long journey you save time not having to visit petrol stations
I'm sure you are correct, but if someone has never had a pure EV before I'd bet it still plays a large part in the decision making.Popping to the loo and to get a coffee and a quick check of emails etc will usually yield another 80-100 miles of range. It just takes a bit more planning, and yes, sometimes a bit more time (assuming you cant stop when youd wantva morning coffee or lunch). But then the other 95% of time not doing a long journey you save time not having to visit petrol stations
Edited by covmutley on Wednesday 24th April 07:28
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