RE: New Tesla Model 3 Performance gets 510hp
Discussion
Chasing Potatoes said:
KingGary said:
Brough Superior actually.
Doesn’t mean I’m wrong though, just look at it! This thread makes all the old, diesel economy threads look interesting. “Indicator stalks” ffs.
Do you post in every thread for a car you won't buy?Doesn’t mean I’m wrong though, just look at it! This thread makes all the old, diesel economy threads look interesting. “Indicator stalks” ffs.
Having had a model 3 performance for a couple of years, the one thing it doesn't really need is more 0-60 performance. 2 full bore starts leaves me feeling sick already. What it does need is better brakes, wipers that work properly and handling that doesn't feel like it's wearing heavy shoes. I also won't be getting another now they removed physical indicator stalks - that's just dangerous.
KingGary said:
Why are you here, to meet with others who will reassure you that EVs are cool?
Oh bless. No I’m here because Mrs Potato has a Tesla through work so I actually have some experience of the cars. Me, I still have my ICE but this model might well be one to look at in a year or so. I’ve been very impressed with her Model Y. I have zero interest in buying a car in some desperate attempt to look cool (which immediately means you aren’t anyway). You, on the other hand, seem to spend a lot of time telling people why they have the wrong car and posting in threads about cars you won’t buy.
A bit odd that.
Chasing Potatoes said:
You, on the other hand, seem to spend a lot of time telling people why they have the wrong car and posting in threads about cars you won’t buy.
A bit odd that.
Not really, just giving my opinion like everyone else. Do you only contribute to threads about cars you WILL buy? A bit odd that.
cerb4.5lee said:
Nomme de Plum said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Mouse Rat said:
However what impresses me most about the model 3 is how efficient they are.
I think that is the rub really. The model 3 works well for tight gits and boring people to me, because anyone who wants a bit of excitement in their life, wouldn't give a rats ass about efficiency in my opinion. If you want a continual adrenalin rush do a bit of Ocean racing or even just partaking on the start line with 30 or so other yachts all trying to start perfectly. If those are a bit costly, Kite sailing, winging or windsurfing are cheap alternatives. You could even do proper Karting for a bit of a rush.
The Tesla is a car which is designed for the function of carrying people from A to B effectively and efficiently. This one happens to be the quick version.
KingGary said:
Not really, just giving my opinion like everyone else. Do you only contribute to threads about cars you WILL buy?
If your opinion is ‘a car for boring people’ do you think you’re adding anything useful, or just posting pointless nonsense?Some here have experience which makes an opinion useful. You should try doing that.
t) and have recently traded that for a BMW i4 M50 which ticks all the boxes the Tesla couldn’t - mainly the interior experience.J4CKO said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Nomme de Plum said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Mouse Rat said:
However what impresses me most about the model 3 is how efficient they are.
I think that is the rub really. The model 3 works well for tight gits and boring people to me, because anyone who wants a bit of excitement in their life, wouldn't give a rats ass about efficiency in my opinion. If you want a continual adrenalin rush do a bit of Ocean racing or even just partaking on the start line with 30 or so other yachts all trying to start perfectly. If those are a bit costly, Kite sailing, winging or windsurfing are cheap alternatives. You could even do proper Karting for a bit of a rush.
The Tesla is a car which is designed for the function of carrying people from A to B effectively and efficiently. This one happens to be the quick version.
cerb4.5lee said:
J4CKO said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Nomme de Plum said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Mouse Rat said:
However what impresses me most about the model 3 is how efficient they are.
I think that is the rub really. The model 3 works well for tight gits and boring people to me, because anyone who wants a bit of excitement in their life, wouldn't give a rats ass about efficiency in my opinion. If you want a continual adrenalin rush do a bit of Ocean racing or even just partaking on the start line with 30 or so other yachts all trying to start perfectly. If those are a bit costly, Kite sailing, winging or windsurfing are cheap alternatives. You could even do proper Karting for a bit of a rush.
The Tesla is a car which is designed for the function of carrying people from A to B effectively and efficiently. This one happens to be the quick version.
J4CKO said:
Why a long term plan ? carpe semita die !
...because my confidence/daftness isn't what it once was to be fair! I used to love going skiing and off road mountain biking years back for sure, but back then I didn't care if I lived or died, whereas now I find life precious in comparison that is all.
You're spot on though I reckon.
Chasing Potatoes said:
KingGary said:
Not really, just giving my opinion like everyone else. Do you only contribute to threads about cars you WILL buy?
If your opinion is ‘a car for boring people’ do you think you’re adding anything useful, or just posting pointless nonsense?Some here have experience which makes an opinion useful. You should try doing that.
TX.
928 GTS said:
Tesla is viewed as technology company yet can't get easy technology like HUD into any of its cars.
You think that Teslas don't have a HUD because the company can't make one? 
Chasing Potatoes said:
KingGary said:
Not really, just giving my opinion like everyone else. Do you only contribute to threads about cars you WILL buy?
If your opinion is ‘a car for boring people’ do you think you’re adding anything useful, or just posting pointless nonsense?Some here have experience which makes an opinion useful. You should try doing that.
DN52 said:
Regarding this claimed 510bhp. Tesla sent an email to me last night "Introducing Model 3 Performance"
It refers to 460 horsepower rather than 510bhp yet also a 2.9 second 0-60mph time. The previous car had a reported 453bhp and 3.1 second 0-60mph time (per Autocar). I suspect the 460bhp is correct and the 2.9 second also just reflects mostly the difference between 0-60 and 0-62 times, perhaps a very slight performance difference.
That seems in line with earlier comment on here that the Shanghai factory cars are 50bhp down from 510bhp.
In my opinion the move away from Michelin Pilot Sport 4S to Pirelli's will likely be a downgrade and wipe out some of the chassis improvement benefits. Also that claimed range
Yeap, I've seen similar references to the differences between US-built and China-built cars:It refers to 460 horsepower rather than 510bhp yet also a 2.9 second 0-60mph time. The previous car had a reported 453bhp and 3.1 second 0-60mph time (per Autocar). I suspect the 460bhp is correct and the 2.9 second also just reflects mostly the difference between 0-60 and 0-62 times, perhaps a very slight performance difference.
That seems in line with earlier comment on here that the Shanghai factory cars are 50bhp down from 510bhp.
In my opinion the move away from Michelin Pilot Sport 4S to Pirelli's will likely be a downgrade and wipe out some of the chassis improvement benefits. Also that claimed range
510hp & 741Nm vs 460hp & 723Nm
82kWh Panasonic battery vs 79kWh LG
2.9s vs 3.1s for the 0-60, although I am not sure if this is because of the rollout difference when they measure the accelaration in the US.
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