RE: MG Cyberster goes on sale priced from £55k
Discussion
GT9 said:
Inevitable that curbing kerb weight for these cars is important for the feel of a sports car.
Battery technology isn't quite there yet, so for now, ICE will need to remain the choice for those obsessed with kerb weight.
Will also curb the endless posting solely about kerb weight to the exclusion of everything else that also influences the car's performance and handling.
Is kerb weight important to kerb appeal, we shall see if it really does curb the sales of the cars.
Subtle, but not too subtle Battery technology isn't quite there yet, so for now, ICE will need to remain the choice for those obsessed with kerb weight.
Will also curb the endless posting solely about kerb weight to the exclusion of everything else that also influences the car's performance and handling.
Is kerb weight important to kerb appeal, we shall see if it really does curb the sales of the cars.
kambites said:
911Spanker said:
What's the target market? Those who had a MGB and who wants the modern equivalent from the same manufacturer?
Doubt it; I suspect most people who're old enough to have run an MGB in period wouldn't touch an EV. I think it's just aimed at people who want a good looking, reasonably priced, drop-top. It feels like a car designed to do nothing badly rather than anything particularly well.Edited by kambites on Friday 26th April 09:44
Anyway, I quite like the look of the MG, and don't really get much of the complaining about it. It's the only two seat convertible electric vehicle available, sure that might not tick everyone's boxes but it surely is better than yet another huge SUV, either BEV or ICE powered.
kambites said:
911Spanker said:
What's the target market? Those who had a MGB and who wants the modern equivalent from the same manufacturer?
Doubt it; I suspect most people who're old enough to have run an MGB in period wouldn't touch an EV. I think it's just aimed at people who want a good looking, reasonably priced, drop-top. It feels like a car designed to do nothing badly rather than anything particularly well.Edited by kambites on Friday 26th April 09:44
That said, agree with above. It's a new audience they are after, not those longing for the return of an MGB or MGF
Mouse Rat said:
Looks good
Cool doors
Reasonably priced
Supercar acceleration
Chinese tech
It's a bit lardy but that's BEV's for you. By a TVR or lotus if you want an agile sports car.
I think it's great
It is always a difficult one for certain. This looks like a sporty car, but it won't drive like a sporty car though. So I guess that you make a choice of either a car that looks good, or you go for a car that drives good if you know what I mean. Cool doors
Reasonably priced
Supercar acceleration
Chinese tech
It's a bit lardy but that's BEV's for you. By a TVR or lotus if you want an agile sports car.
I think it's great
This is more akin to an Audi TT diesel or a Merc SLK 250d to me, and they are purchased for the way they look, rather than the way they drive I think.
In saying all that, this thing does definitely peak my interest a lot though, and I can't say that about many EVs to be fair in comparison.
Scott-R said:
Out of interest, is there a way of comparing the centre of gravity of a skateboard EV like this, where the battery and motors are all within the wheelbase and below the driver, against a lighter car, where the weight is more over each axle?
i.e., is it possible to say “a 1900kg skateboard EVs feels similar to a xxxx kg ICE vehicle”, because the greater weight is lower in the vehicle? Obviously the brakes and the suspension still have to deal with the higher mass but I was just wondering if there was even a ball park comparison that could be made.
My take on it is that a 500 kg battery adds the feel of 50% or less of that to a traditional layout.i.e., is it possible to say “a 1900kg skateboard EVs feels similar to a xxxx kg ICE vehicle”, because the greater weight is lower in the vehicle? Obviously the brakes and the suspension still have to deal with the higher mass but I was just wondering if there was even a ball park comparison that could be made.
From a grip and turn-in perspective, the lack of high CoG mass over the front axle is quite noticeable.
The 'GT feel' is a result of the inertness and stability that the 'sizeable battery' skateboard arrangement imparts under dynamic loading.
If and when battery technology reaches the point where the mass penalty is not felt, the point-to-point ability is going to be eye-opening.
Alternatively, low volume production methods for chassis and bodywork should allow such a car to be built today using existing battery technology.
Let's see how Caterham get on with the Project V car in that respect.
Bryans69 said:
kambites said:
911Spanker said:
What's the target market? Those who had a MGB and who wants the modern equivalent from the same manufacturer?
Doubt it; I suspect most people who're old enough to have run an MGB in period wouldn't touch an EV. I think it's just aimed at people who want a good looking, reasonably priced, drop-top. It feels like a car designed to do nothing badly rather than anything particularly well.Edited by kambites on Friday 26th April 09:44
That said, agree with above. It's a new audience they are after, not those longing for the return of an MGB or MGF
griffsomething said:
I’m still surprised they didn’t call it the MGE.
Would be a nice nod to MGA/B/C/F naming convention and tie in to the electric aspect.
My father in law used to have an MGA(he is in his 70's now), so I'll have to ask him what he thinks to this next time I see him. Would be a nice nod to MGA/B/C/F naming convention and tie in to the electric aspect.
Your shout at calling it the MGE is spot on I reckon.
cerb4.5lee said:
griffsomething said:
I’m still surprised they didn’t call it the MGE.
Would be a nice nod to MGA/B/C/F naming convention and tie in to the electric aspect.
My father in law used to have an MGA(he is in his 70's now), so I'll have to ask him what he thinks to this next time I see him. Would be a nice nod to MGA/B/C/F naming convention and tie in to the electric aspect.
Your shout at calling it the MGE is spot on I reckon.
boyse7en said:
I don't really understand the bit about being old enough to have had an MG not touching an electric. Everyone i know who has bought an EV is well into the 50+ age group.
Maybe my friends are abnormal then, because almost all the EV owners I know are in their thirties or forties! kambites said:
boyse7en said:
I don't really understand the bit about being old enough to have had an MG not touching an electric. Everyone i know who has bought an EV is well into the 50+ age group.
Maybe my friends are abnormal then, because almost all the EV owners I know are in their thirties or forties! No configurator online for these yet?
Usual comment, crazy price etc. but what isn't these days
I'm so done with this market...s1962a said:
My iPhone is designed by a US company
I bought my laptop from Amazon, which came from a UK warehouse, and is designed by a US company
My BMW is German
All made in China though
/Parrot
Just had a check on this front - cars made in Germany and Japan, phone and laptop from Vietnam (RoK chips). Probably loads of Chinese components in all those and a house full of bits and pieces from China, but have dodged the big-ticket tropes. Bathe in the blood of the oppressed or admit that you can't dodge every puddle? I bought my laptop from Amazon, which came from a UK warehouse, and is designed by a US company
My BMW is German
All made in China though
/Parrot
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