RE: 2024 Porsche Macan 4 | PH Review

RE: 2024 Porsche Macan 4 | PH Review

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plfrench

2,401 posts

269 months

Saturday 27th April
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86 said:
Cancelled my order and got my deposit back. Gone petrol instead !!
What made you change your mind?

ChrisCh86

857 posts

45 months

Saturday 27th April
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Honeywell said:
Utterly charmless with a huge price when you add options. Retailed by somewhat arrogant dealers. They'll sell loads but I'd rather walk.
Agreed!

The options prices on Porsche's are crazy. I think I'd rather take the Tesla for half the price if I had to electric...

Silvanus

5,289 posts

24 months

Saturday 27th April
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CoolHands said:
Silvanus said:
I think he's probably referring to this one, rather than the Cyberster.

What a turd. In its own thread PHers loving it
Out interest, why's it a turd? I've not driven one but they seem to get pretty decent reviews in the press and from owners.

SDK

900 posts

254 months

Saturday 27th April
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Kipsrs said:
This @ £95k or a standard Cayenne S @ £85k? Think I know where my money would go.
That Cayenne would need options adding too though !
Most Porsche models need about £20k of options to match the spec of other cheaper brands, including BMW and Mercedes.
This is the problem when buying a new Porsche .

People see a BMW i5 M60 at £90k and a Taycan at £90k and think/post why buy the BMW, when you can get a Porsche for the same cost! Forgetting the Porsche will be poverty spec and need optioning up.

Nish Gnackers

1,046 posts

42 months

Saturday 27th April
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3 pages in on a thread about a new EV and yet no sign of Mr Logic Nomme de Plum wink

cerb4.5lee

30,797 posts

181 months

Saturday 27th April
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SDK said:
Kipsrs said:
This @ £95k or a standard Cayenne S @ £85k? Think I know where my money would go.
That Cayenne would need options adding too though !
Most Porsche models need about £20k of options to match the spec of other cheaper brands, including BMW and Mercedes.
This is the problem when buying a new Porsche .

People see a BMW i5 M60 at £90k and a Taycan at £90k and think/post why buy the BMW, when you can get a Porsche for the same cost! Forgetting the Porsche will be poverty spec and need optioning up.
I've seen exactly the same when we've looked into speccing a brand new Porsche up as well. I personally like a nice spec with cars, so a boggo current Porsche wouldn't do a lot for me to be honest.

As I've said many times, Porsche know exactly what they're doing in that regard for sure I reckon.

JAMSXR

1,502 posts

48 months

Saturday 27th April
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ChrisCh86 said:
Agreed!

The options prices on Porsche's are crazy. I think I'd rather take the Tesla for half the price if I had to electric...
Agreed. I like this but a model Y will provide the same experience. With the change you can purchase a nice ICE for having some fun.

Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Saturday 27th April
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The '4S' typo at the end of this review may well end up being part of the range.

There is no 'S' at the moment but Porsche always include one. So I expect something that'll allow a few more amps through the motors that'll be still less than the turbo's.

cerb4.5lee

30,797 posts

181 months

Saturday 27th April
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JAMSXR said:
ChrisCh86 said:
Agreed!

The options prices on Porsche's are crazy. I think I'd rather take the Tesla for half the price if I had to electric...
Agreed. I like this but a model Y will provide the same experience. With the change you can purchase a nice ICE for having some fun.
What?! Surely if you like an EV...then having fun isn't even on your agenda? winkbiggrin



I do genuinely take my hat off to you lot who can get onboard with both ICE/EV for sure though! beer

I'm not anywhere close yet in comparison, however I'm not daft enough to say that it couldn't happen one day though in fairness. smile

FlukePlay

954 posts

146 months

Sunday 28th April
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mrclav said:
cerb4.5lee said:
The great thing with electric cars is that they all look crap...so you can't lose really! hehe
They all look crap? Don't know about that - Audi's RS e-tron GT is a good looking car, as is the Maserati Gran Turismo and MC20 Folgore models.

I also think the new Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale (which will admittedly only have a few electric versions built) is pretty good looking too.
Mrclav, I agree with the cars you mentioned but a lot of EVs just look totally bland. The designers have no idea what to do about the grille and don't get me started on the wheels. Wheels maketh the car.

FlukePlay

954 posts

146 months

Sunday 28th April
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911Spanker said:
You don't need options. Have it in basic, stripped out hardcore form.

Small wheels means amazing steering feel and no options means ultimate mechanical purity.
Would the Porsche dealer tell you to p*ss off if you wanted zero options? I like the idea of a base spec 992 with the only option being power fold mirrors. If I had to add something then it would be blue paint, Turbo wheels and a light interior. Job done.

FlukePlay

954 posts

146 months

Sunday 28th April
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cerb4.5lee said:
soxboy said:
cerb4.5lee said:
The great thing with electric cars is that they all look crap...so you can't lose really! hehe
Oh Lee, just as you were doing well and almost warming to the idea.

I can’t work out whether you actually believe what you’re typing or you say it to sound cool in front of the bigger ICE boys and not lose face.

It reminds me of a 13-year old boy saying ‘urgh girls smell and they don’t like football’ when deep down you did really like them, especially that girl from the year above that you got the bus with.
I genuinely don't like the look of any Tesla(inside or out), and I find most of the Kia EVs ugly as well. Plus there are countless other EVs that look completely forgettable too for me(VW id3 etc).

I do like the Audi RS e-tron to look at though, and I don't mind the Taycan either, plus I like the look of the 2 seater MG EV as well. thumbup
Lee, I'm pretty much with you on this but I don't like the Taycan, the front end is all wrong.

However I did like the BMW i3 which you hated. I thought that was the perfect city car and they did a bloody good job at the first attempt.

I'm sure you will come out of the EV closet soon...what will it take for BMW or Mercedes to do that?

E90_M3Ross

35,118 posts

213 months

Sunday 28th April
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Nish Gnackers said:
3 pages in on a thread about a new EV and yet no sign of Mr Logic Nomme de Plum wink
Say his name in front of a mirror three times...

Silvanus

5,289 posts

24 months

Sunday 28th April
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FlukePlay said:
mrclav said:
cerb4.5lee said:
The great thing with electric cars is that they all look crap...so you can't lose really! hehe
They all look crap? Don't know about that - Audi's RS e-tron GT is a good looking car, as is the Maserati Gran Turismo and MC20 Folgore models.

I also think the new Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale (which will admittedly only have a few electric versions built) is pretty good looking too.
Mrclav, I agree with the cars you mentioned but a lot of EVs just look totally bland. The designers have no idea what to do about the grille and don't get me started on the wheels. Wheels maketh the car.
The majority of ICE cars also look bland or just plain ugly. I agree regarding the wheels though.

Wills2

22,943 posts

176 months

Sunday 28th April
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E90_M3Ross said:
Nish Gnackers said:
3 pages in on a thread about a new EV and yet no sign of Mr Logic Nomme de Plum wink
Say his name in front of a mirror three times...
Please don't.

I watched the Mat Watson turbo model review and I really like this car, it's not cheap but Porsches never are but I can see the appeal once you factor in the tax breaks for a company user.



HighwayStar

4,302 posts

145 months

Sunday 28th April
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FlukePlay said:
911Spanker said:
You don't need options. Have it in basic, stripped out hardcore form.

Small wheels means amazing steering feel and no options means ultimate mechanical purity.
Would the Porsche dealer tell you to p*ss off if you wanted zero options? I like the idea of a base spec 992 with the only option being power fold mirrors. If I had to add something then it would be blue paint, Turbo wheels and a light interior. Job done.
No… you can order your Porsche however you like. It’s not like they’re all similar spec.. hence people who one a used one struggle to find the exact spec they want.
The other things is when buyers come on forums asking how they should spec their new car. They are told if it doesn’t have XYZ they’ll struggle when the time comes to move it on. You’re living proof that not everyone wants all the trimmings.

Hairymonster

1,434 posts

106 months

Sunday 28th April
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GreatScott2016 said:
It's not for me, but it's one of the better looking SUVs I think. Amazing how an options list can raise your eyebrows though yikes
Welcome to the Porsche business model!

Demonix

488 posts

213 months

Sunday 28th April
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Wtaf? - a shade under £25k's worth of options, Porsche are truly taking the proverbial! At £69,800 I don't think it unreasonable to expect most of the toys as standard, having to lunch £94,522 to get a desirable spec is bks! Tbf Audi are just as bad.

Mark-C

5,161 posts

206 months

Sunday 28th April
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911Spanker said:
Honeywell said:
Utterly charmless with a huge price when you add options. Retailed by somewhat arrogant dealers. They'll sell loads but I'd rather walk.
How would you carry luggage and go 200 miles?
Also how many times and for how long would you need to break for and recharge yourself?

sticks090460

1,079 posts

159 months

Sunday 28th April
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FlukePlay said:
911Spanker said:
You don't need options. Have it in basic, stripped out hardcore form.

Small wheels means amazing steering feel and no options means ultimate mechanical purity.
Would the Porsche dealer tell you to p*ss off if you wanted zero options? I like the idea of a base spec 992 with the only option being power fold mirrors. If I had to add something then it would be blue paint, Turbo wheels and a light interior. Job done.
No.