RE: Audi RS6 (C8) | PH Used Buying Guide
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FMOB said:
Currently owning a C8 S6 I would say on paper this looks great but the reality less so.
The dash rattles in the C8 A6 are well known to the point Audi don't quibble, dealer already had 2 goes at mine and booked in for a 3rd attempt.
In RHD cars the ZF8 gearbox intrudes into the pedal area making the car uncomfortable on longer journeys, your left leg needs to be several inches longer than your right to touch the footrest.
Not sure if the RS6 suffers with gearbox lag like other Audi's fitted with the ZF8 but the article doesn't mention this.
The overall ergonomics in this car are beyond awful with everything on a touch screen, software features that just don't work despite updates. Cannot get a comfortable driving position, still problematic after 18 months.
The BGS repair is about £3k if parts are available but there is little indication of the fault until you lose all power wherever you happen to be.
Honestly a car to avoid, I am sure Audi are pleased with the positive write-up but anyone buying one based on this will review be disappointed in the long term.
This is the reality of modern (new cars ca. post 2017) Audi ownership; the shoddy build quality, materials quality (perceived and otherwise), laughably poor franchised dealership network (poor quality sales and aftersales) means that for me they can't relastically deliver a fitting experience for anything over the £40k level.The dash rattles in the C8 A6 are well known to the point Audi don't quibble, dealer already had 2 goes at mine and booked in for a 3rd attempt.
In RHD cars the ZF8 gearbox intrudes into the pedal area making the car uncomfortable on longer journeys, your left leg needs to be several inches longer than your right to touch the footrest.
Not sure if the RS6 suffers with gearbox lag like other Audi's fitted with the ZF8 but the article doesn't mention this.
The overall ergonomics in this car are beyond awful with everything on a touch screen, software features that just don't work despite updates. Cannot get a comfortable driving position, still problematic after 18 months.
The BGS repair is about £3k if parts are available but there is little indication of the fault until you lose all power wherever you happen to be.
Honestly a car to avoid, I am sure Audi are pleased with the positive write-up but anyone buying one based on this will review be disappointed in the long term.
So, they're sub-Ford, sub-Vauxhaul and sub-Koren brands.
Cowbows.
CloudStuff said:
FMOB said:
Currently owning a C8 S6 I would say on paper this looks great but the reality less so.
The dash rattles in the C8 A6 are well known to the point Audi don't quibble, dealer already had 2 goes at mine and booked in for a 3rd attempt.
In RHD cars the ZF8 gearbox intrudes into the pedal area making the car uncomfortable on longer journeys, your left leg needs to be several inches longer than your right to touch the footrest.
Not sure if the RS6 suffers with gearbox lag like other Audi's fitted with the ZF8 but the article doesn't mention this.
The overall ergonomics in this car are beyond awful with everything on a touch screen, software features that just don't work despite updates. Cannot get a comfortable driving position, still problematic after 18 months.
The BGS repair is about £3k if parts are available but there is little indication of the fault until you lose all power wherever you happen to be.
Honestly a car to avoid, I am sure Audi are pleased with the positive write-up but anyone buying one based on this will review be disappointed in the long term.
This is the reality of modern (new cars ca. post 2017) Audi ownership; the shoddy build quality, materials quality (perceived and otherwise), laughably poor franchised dealership network (poor quality sales and aftersales) means that for me they can't relastically deliver a fitting experience for anything over the £40k level.The dash rattles in the C8 A6 are well known to the point Audi don't quibble, dealer already had 2 goes at mine and booked in for a 3rd attempt.
In RHD cars the ZF8 gearbox intrudes into the pedal area making the car uncomfortable on longer journeys, your left leg needs to be several inches longer than your right to touch the footrest.
Not sure if the RS6 suffers with gearbox lag like other Audi's fitted with the ZF8 but the article doesn't mention this.
The overall ergonomics in this car are beyond awful with everything on a touch screen, software features that just don't work despite updates. Cannot get a comfortable driving position, still problematic after 18 months.
The BGS repair is about £3k if parts are available but there is little indication of the fault until you lose all power wherever you happen to be.
Honestly a car to avoid, I am sure Audi are pleased with the positive write-up but anyone buying one based on this will review be disappointed in the long term.
So, they're sub-Ford, sub-Vauxhaul and sub-Koren brands.
Cowbows.
t.There are so many simple details that make a car easier to live with, there is little useable storage in the front, where to put your phone? That cover in the central console, nope that is 2 very tight cupholders so in the door pocket. Door pockets are so badly designed getting anything out again is a fiddly exercise - WHY?
The cupholders, so tight you have to be careful not to pop the top off whatever you are removing. The tailgate, they used have a convenient light to light the area but also facing backwards so you could where it was, now you just have the ones lighting the area, can't see the tailgate all in the dark, results are very predictable.
As for the software, could it be much worse.
They have binned so many useable features I am surprised it got 4 wheels on it. Audi have really screwed the pooch with this one.
Has put me off modern Audi's for good.
cerb4.5lee said:
I remember having the previous generation to this overtake me once, and I was disappointed with the noise that made as well. I was expecting a bit of theatre with it being a V8, but that was very muted as well.
In my opinion all performance cars benefit from an aftermarket exhaust I think, and I've put an aftermarket exhaust on quite a few of the performance cars I've had over the years. Not only do they enhance the noise, but they also get the car breathing better as well I reckon.
My 370Z would be as quiet as a mouse if it still had the standard exhaust on it for example, and my F82 M4 is properly quiet on its standard exhaust as well frustratingly. If a car has a reasonably sized engine under the bonnet, then I personally want to hear it...can someone give me back my TVR Cerbera 4.5 on its factory supplied sports exhaust please?!
They go from a barely audible murmur to Nascar territory with a flick of the exhaust valve setting. A gentle overtake in comfort mode will be done in relative silence and in real world that's the setting it spends most of its time in. In my opinion all performance cars benefit from an aftermarket exhaust I think, and I've put an aftermarket exhaust on quite a few of the performance cars I've had over the years. Not only do they enhance the noise, but they also get the car breathing better as well I reckon.
My 370Z would be as quiet as a mouse if it still had the standard exhaust on it for example, and my F82 M4 is properly quiet on its standard exhaust as well frustratingly. If a car has a reasonably sized engine under the bonnet, then I personally want to hear it...can someone give me back my TVR Cerbera 4.5 on its factory supplied sports exhaust please?!
An aftermarket exhaust would just make the mile munching its designed for that bit more uncomfortable.
CLK-GTR said:
They go from a barely audible murmur to Nascar territory with a flick of the exhaust valve setting. A gentle overtake in comfort mode will be done in relative silence and in real world that's the setting it spends most of its time in.
An aftermarket exhaust would just make the mile munching its designed for that bit more uncomfortable.
Yes and that makes sense then for sure. An aftermarket exhaust would just make the mile munching its designed for that bit more uncomfortable.
Before buying any modern big audi you should Google:
“Audi, belt driven 47v starter generator, 48v system failure, cost to replace”
Great car while under comprehensive manufacturer warranty. Make sure you get a decent replacement hire car for the 3-4 weeks it will take your dealership to replace the 48v battery and starter generator when it fails - which it will…..
“Audi, belt driven 47v starter generator, 48v system failure, cost to replace”
Great car while under comprehensive manufacturer warranty. Make sure you get a decent replacement hire car for the 3-4 weeks it will take your dealership to replace the 48v battery and starter generator when it fails - which it will…..
C6 has always been the ultimate RS6 IMHO, really understated looking, would have loved to been a fly on the wall when someone suggested sticking a V10 5 litre twin turbo in a family estate/saloon car, just awesome. I really despair that a lot of kids these days will never experience genius such as that, but be condemned to a life of boring mediocrity in an EV.
Edited by ninepoint2 on Sunday 28th April 21:37
Was seriously considering one of these, always thought they looked incredible, and being an Audi, would just be impeccable.
I ended up buying my RRS back from a dealer who bought it for 9k more 6 months prior, too good to be true.
Glad I did now as in 6 months it’s been faultless, which sounds like it wouldn’t be the case for the RS6.
I ended up buying my RRS back from a dealer who bought it for 9k more 6 months prior, too good to be true.
Glad I did now as in 6 months it’s been faultless, which sounds like it wouldn’t be the case for the RS6.
I had both the C7 and C8 version of the RS6 and kept the latter for only 10 months or so. It was shoutier (not in a good way), but I should have realised that. It also felt cheaper - more attention seemed to have been paid to the bling and the “look-at-me” elements rather try a the fundamental quality of the car. But Audi are not alone in that.
The C7 in Sepang Blue was my favourite of the two and felt no less capable on the road despite slightly less power.
The C7 in Sepang Blue was my favourite of the two and felt no less capable on the road despite slightly less power.
No doubt a fantastic bit of kit, but to me these seen to have gone too big and lairy.. I've seen a couple in my area and they just look a bit too steroided up..
I think given the choice I'd probably save a few quid and either go B9 RS4 if I wanted the performance and handling, or C8 S6 if I wanted the practicality. I get that the RS6 is supposed to be a blend of the two, but I dunno, just seems a bit 'much'..
I think given the choice I'd probably save a few quid and either go B9 RS4 if I wanted the performance and handling, or C8 S6 if I wanted the practicality. I get that the RS6 is supposed to be a blend of the two, but I dunno, just seems a bit 'much'..
The ultimate in family barges. Still look great and go brilliantly.
Unfortunately they're perhaps a bit over engineered in the pursuit of it these days, meaning shared parts or replacing things are more difficult than they need to be which probably makes them less fun in the long run than an older model/alternative.
If you've got the cash and don't mind though, what a thing.
Unfortunately they're perhaps a bit over engineered in the pursuit of it these days, meaning shared parts or replacing things are more difficult than they need to be which probably makes them less fun in the long run than an older model/alternative.
If you've got the cash and don't mind though, what a thing.
Geoffcapes said:
I'm considering one of these, but am erring towards an M5 Comp, purely as they don't look as shouty.
And don't need the estate boot.
Will need to test drive one.
Honestly I wouldn't, once the excitement of the hooting performance has worn off you will be disappointed.And don't need the estate boot.
Will need to test drive one.
FMOB said:
Geoffcapes said:
I'm considering one of these, but am erring towards an M5 Comp, purely as they don't look as shouty.
And don't need the estate boot.
Will need to test drive one.
Honestly I wouldn't, once the excitement of the hooting performance has worn off you will be disappointed.And don't need the estate boot.
Will need to test drive one.
I've had my C7.5 (Performance version of the C7) for three years now and, while the updated UI and software would be nice, the inside is still a nice place to be. The car is also loud enough (when you want it to be) and very well put together (unlike perhaps the C8).
As it stands, I can't quite stomach the fact that the equivalent C8.5 Performance is around twice the price of my C7.5-- in my view, that's simply not worth the £££.
When I can pick up a C8.5 for £80-90K with all the niggles sorted, I may be tempted. But, for now, the previous generation does nearly everything the C8.5 can do, and for a significantly smaller outlay (running costs appear to be about the same).
Worth also noting that the insurance on these has rocketed (like many cars in the last 12 months or so). Values have consequently dipped quite dramatically too.
Lastly, finding a C8.5 with alcantara seats (rather than the leather option-- I can't stand leather seats) appear to be like hens' teeth!
As it stands, I can't quite stomach the fact that the equivalent C8.5 Performance is around twice the price of my C7.5-- in my view, that's simply not worth the £££.
When I can pick up a C8.5 for £80-90K with all the niggles sorted, I may be tempted. But, for now, the previous generation does nearly everything the C8.5 can do, and for a significantly smaller outlay (running costs appear to be about the same).
Worth also noting that the insurance on these has rocketed (like many cars in the last 12 months or so). Values have consequently dipped quite dramatically too.
Lastly, finding a C8.5 with alcantara seats (rather than the leather option-- I can't stand leather seats) appear to be like hens' teeth!
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