812 superfast

I keep coming back to the idea of wanting an 812 Superfast. I'm going to try and go ahead with one and already made it a goal for 2024.

I absolutely love the look of them and want a black one, with black wheels. Always thought a first Ferrari purchase would be red but here we are.

The main thing is, do the values seem stable and likely to hold up? I hate losing significant money on cars and would like something I can keep for a year of so with minimal loss.

Sorry I take the opposite view of the above (maybe as already an owner!)
Most original 812 owners have already traded for an 812 GTS so don’t expect a glut of vehicles coming the market. Also the replacement 812 is likely to be a minimum of 12-15 months away for deliveries in the UK and the price tag is taking a huge uptick from what I’ve been told. V12 production is already limited due to line restrictions and what with the Puro and specials eating in to this, demand will be astronomical I.e. there will be a huge price differential between an 812 at c£230k and it’s replacement c£450k (and that’s before early overs).

I’d be much more comfortable putting my money in to a nice 812 (c10 on sale with official dealers) compared to almost 40 296GTB’s- which are tanking in value. Also, it’s not like the F12 tanked in value when the 812’s were being delivered.

That said, if only planning on owning a year or so, probably prudent to bank on £40-£50k depreciation, particularly if buying from a dealer.
The good thing with the updated power warranty is that it is now an extension of the full original warranty until the car reaches 7 years. i.e. covers absolutely everything (including wearing dampers, oil leaks, etc which used to be excluded)

It’s 4 + years 5,6,7 can be extended

I tend to agree with Anopax's view and disagree with Gary's. Of course some people will be appalled by the price of the replacement and not buy but be in no doubt, enough Ferrari owners will bite and the waiting list will be huge. Not sure that GTS owners will be dumping their 812's initially if normal service follows and the F167 is coupe only at first but that means SF owners who want a coupe will likely be looking to change and IMO that means more will be available = supply/demand and prices will go down. I'm certainly expecting to take a big bath on my F12 although that's because I got it with delivery mileage last month and have since put almost 1k miles on it!

The counter to this is that the rumour is people who want an F167 will need to be an existing Ferrari V12 owner to get an allocation which means that many single Ferrari 812 owners won't start dumping them immediately until they get their replacement. I guess it depends how many people own a SF along with other V12 Ferrari's and as such will start to try to shift early.

Personally if I was at all worried about values taking a dump, I'd probably avoid an 812 for the next 18 months.

I think many won't jump to the replacement because of the costs

Hmmm, well that rather depends on your last line. I bought my F12 in 2021, put 11,000 miles on her as my daily in a year and sold her in 2022 for pretty much the same amount.

Here you go OP

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15674685

This Could be another thread where they will never be cheap enough to buy.
Lots of people procrastinating about purchases at the moment

YOLO

Funnily enough I was having a coffee near the Ferrari dealer in Glasgow earlier in the year and that exact car was sat outside.

I think that was the moment I thought I need to make this happen.

Thank you for all the pointers.

I think they will stabilise around the £220k mark. Seems a fantastic car but technology just seems to improving so rapidly that each new model eclipses the previous one. That’s the risk to residuals.