Cupra Born

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Icehanger

394 posts

223 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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On the Born fakebook it looks like a lot of dealers have 58kW available but the 77's need factory orders, a few are popping up though

BertBert

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212 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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Icehanger said:
On the Born fakebook it looks like a lot of dealers have 58kW available but the 77's need factory orders, a few are popping up though
Yes we just missed a 77kwh pre-order at Ciytgate, so it's a long-shot

BertBert

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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dibblecorse said:
Suspect they will all be 58kwh cars, the 77kwh cars are trickling through at the moment they definitely aren't sitting about anywhere and Cupra have been given priority on that battery pack by VAG to help bolster the brand.
It's proving slightly harder than I thought to ask the Q! Didn't get through to anyone yesterday in sales and left a message. No call back 24 hours later!

I'll try again.

mabosh

300 posts

187 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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BertBert said:
dibblecorse said:
Suspect they will all be 58kwh cars, the 77kwh cars are trickling through at the moment they definitely aren't sitting about anywhere and Cupra have been given priority on that battery pack by VAG to help bolster the brand.
It's proving slightly harder than I thought to ask the Q! Didn't get through to anyone yesterday in sales and left a message. No call back 24 hours later!

I'll try again.
Urgh, typical Arnold Clark!

I'm sure the showroom car is 77kwh. Not sure if it's actually available though.

BertBert

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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mabosh said:
Urgh, typical Arnold Clark!

I'm sure the showroom car is 77kwh. Not sure if it's actually available though.
I'll try once more before I abandon the task! The odd thing about the 77kwh variant is that the middle seat at the back gets deleted making it a strict 4 seater. Probably not a practical problem, but off-putting nevertheless!

SWoll

18,494 posts

259 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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BertBert said:
mabosh said:
Urgh, typical Arnold Clark!

I'm sure the showroom car is 77kwh. Not sure if it's actually available though.
I'll try once more before I abandon the task! The odd thing about the 77kwh variant is that the middle seat at the back gets deleted making it a strict 4 seater. Probably not a practical problem, but off-putting nevertheless!
Same with the ID3, down to vehicle weight I believe as 3 average rear seat passengers would push it over a certain limit so has to be configured for 2.

Pica-Pica

13,869 posts

85 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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SWoll said:
BertBert said:
mabosh said:
Urgh, typical Arnold Clark!

I'm sure the showroom car is 77kwh. Not sure if it's actually available though.
I'll try once more before I abandon the task! The odd thing about the 77kwh variant is that the middle seat at the back gets deleted making it a strict 4 seater. Probably not a practical problem, but off-putting nevertheless!
Same with the ID3, down to vehicle weight I believe as 3 average rear seat passengers would push it over a certain limit so has to be configured for 2.
I’ve never seen any car that can comfortably fit 3 people in the back, no matter what size, or age or car seat used.

BertBert

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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SWoll said:
Same with the ID3, down to vehicle weight I believe as 3 average rear seat passengers would push it over a certain limit so has to be configured for 2.
I wonder if the platform has a max weight in its type approval?

BertBert

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Pica-Pica said:
I’ve never seen any car that can comfortably fit 3 people in the back, no matter what size, or age or car seat used.
If that's the case how does anyone drive a family of 5 on holiday?
Not saying that's what I want to do, but for those times when you want to squish 5 in, then you can't.

BertBert

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19,096 posts

212 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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So an update. We ordered a 77KHW blue Born (to Mrs Bert's spec) and were settled for a Sept/Oct delivery. However, one has "come into stock" of the right colour and only a slight variation on spec. I assume a cancelled order. So it looks like we will be proud Cupra Born drivers some time around the end of the month!

ETA we need to make sure it's on the new reg from March 1st!

somouk

1,425 posts

199 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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BertBert said:
So an update. We ordered a 77KHW blue Born (to Mrs Bert's spec) and were settled for a Sept/Oct delivery. However, one has "come into stock" of the right colour and only a slight variation on spec. I assume a cancelled order. So it looks like we will be proud Cupra Born drivers some time around the end of the month!

ETA we need to make sure it's on the new reg from March 1st!
If you don't have a charger already then time to get some quotes in and get one installed. Also start looking at EV electricity tariffs and doing the maths to see if they will save you money.

BertBert

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Thursday 16th February 2023
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somouk said:
If you don't have a charger already then time to get some quotes in and get one installed. Also start looking at EV electricity tariffs and doing the maths to see if they will save you money.
Thanks, we have a charger as we had a Zoe for 5 years. However it's definitely time to revisit, especially on the tariff side

BertBert

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Wednesday 15th March 2023
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BertBert said:
So an update. We ordered a 77KHW blue Born (to Mrs Bert's spec) and were settled for a Sept/Oct delivery. However, one has "come into stock" of the right colour and only a slight variation on spec. I assume a cancelled order. So it looks like we will be proud Cupra Born drivers some time around the end of the month!

ETA we need to make sure it's on the new reg from March 1st!
Not that it's of any interest, but here's an update which is rather strange. The Born was in the UK and we had pencilled in a collection date for today having done all the paperwork. I've been away so contacted the dealer yesterday. Sales guy's day off, but got a message back that the car has not been shipped to the UK yet, so we may get it around the end of the month (or may not).

I won't name and shame, but I am completely underwhelmed by the selling dealer. When we went to test drive they had one in stock, then they didn't (fair enough cars get sold). Then we got an estimated delivery date to order. So we ordered and "to be on the safe side" the delivery date estimate slipped back by 3 months. Carried on with the order. Then got a message they did have a stock one in the UK (had a couple of extra bits over what we wanted) which I firmed up the order on. Delivery was due to be end of Feb. I delayed that to get the new reg. Now apparently, it's not even in the UK. The sales guy is nice enough, but I have never encountered such a lacklustre and shoddy new car buying process! Hey ho, I'll phone him today to see what's what. My guess is that they sold the car they had to someone else with a second one on the horizon (well technically in a far off land over the horizon!). I wonder what spec it is?

But I'm sure it'll be fine and Mrs Bert is very pleased to be getting a new electric car. Gets me super-mega brownie points - I was at an all time low having bought a Caterham BDR project car. I need a good positive balance though as I am now on the track of a part restored (real) March 761!

plfrench

2,405 posts

269 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Not good frown

My wife finally had hers delivered yesterday after ordering early last March. It's great to have an EV back, that'll be my car gathering dust again whenever she's not using hers biggrin

HTP99

22,627 posts

141 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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BertBert said:
BertBert said:
So an update. We ordered a 77KHW blue Born (to Mrs Bert's spec) and were settled for a Sept/Oct delivery. However, one has "come into stock" of the right colour and only a slight variation on spec. I assume a cancelled order. So it looks like we will be proud Cupra Born drivers some time around the end of the month!

ETA we need to make sure it's on the new reg from March 1st!
Not that it's of any interest, but here's an update which is rather strange. The Born was in the UK and we had pencilled in a collection date for today having done all the paperwork. I've been away so contacted the dealer yesterday. Sales guy's day off, but got a message back that the car has not been shipped to the UK yet, so we may get it around the end of the month (or may not).

I won't name and shame, but I am completely underwhelmed by the selling dealer. When we went to test drive they had one in stock, then they didn't (fair enough cars get sold). Then we got an estimated delivery date to order. So we ordered and "to be on the safe side" the delivery date estimate slipped back by 3 months. Carried on with the order. Then got a message they did have a stock one in the UK (had a couple of extra bits over what we wanted) which I firmed up the order on. Delivery was due to be end of Feb. I delayed that to get the new reg. Now apparently, it's not even in the UK. The sales guy is nice enough, but I have never encountered such a lacklustre and shoddy new car buying process! Hey ho, I'll phone him today to see what's what. My guess is that they sold the car they had to someone else with a second one on the horizon (well technically in a far off land over the horizon!). I wonder what spec it is?

But I'm sure it'll be fine and Mrs Bert is very pleased to be getting a new electric car. Gets me super-mega brownie points - I was at an all time low having bought a Caterham BDR project car. I need a good positive balance though as I am now on the track of a part restored (real) March 761!
There are many issues throughout the motor trade currently, the manufacturer who I sell for is having problems however are in a better position to VAG group, there are constant delays with cars, mis-information and haulier and logistic issues, in my 20 years doing this job I have never experienced it so badly.

They wouldn't have sold the car to someone else, it is all just caught up in the current shot show, this is also not exclusive to the motor trade.

plfrench

2,405 posts

269 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Oh, and on the subject of tariffs, OVO have recently rolled out their Drive Anytime offering. 10p/KwH for EV charging. I need to look into the finer details, but it seems like you connect the Born's app and Ovo's Drive Anytime App together so they know when you're charging at home and how much is being put into the EV. Then they credit your bill for the difference between the 10p rate and whatever your standard house tariff is at.

It requires that you give it control over when they charge, i.e. at lower demand or excess generation periods. Interesting and worth a look.

BertBert

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212 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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HTP99 said:
There are many issues throughout the motor trade currently, the manufacturer who I sell for is having problems however are in a better position to VAG group, there are constant delays with cars, mis-information and haulier and logistic issues, in my 20 years doing this job I have never experienced it so badly.

They wouldn't have sold the car to someone else, it is all just caught up in the current shot show, this is also not exclusive to the motor trade.
Thanks for the reassurance. It is hard to comprehend the car being here in the UK for delivery before the end of Feb changing to it's not here at all. But if that's what's going on across the industry, that makes it easier to deal with!

BertBert

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Wednesday 15th March 2023
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plfrench said:
Oh, and on the subject of tariffs, OVO have recently rolled out their Drive Anytime offering. 10p/KwH for EV charging. I need to look into the finer details, but it seems like you connect the Born's app and Ovo's Drive Anytime App together so they know when you're charging at home and how much is being put into the EV. Then they credit your bill for the difference between the 10p rate and whatever your standard house tariff is at.

It requires that you give it control over when they charge, i.e. at lower demand or excess generation periods. Interesting and worth a look.
Thanks, will investigate, looks interesting

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Bertbert, did you have any joy in getting them to move away from the list price, or no joy in that respect?

I drove one a while ago and liked it, apart from the ride quality being a bit on the poor side (although the roads here are horrendous so not entirely the cars fault), and I've been tempted since. My new job is all town driving so an EV would tick the box for me as my only longer distance trips are all on public transport so range isn't an issue at all for me.

Would probably plump for a V2/58kwh

Edited by Axionknight on Thursday 16th March 15:26

BertBert

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19,096 posts

212 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Axionknight said:
Bertbert, did you have any joy in getting them to move away from the list price, or no joy in that respect?

I drove one a while ago and liked it, apart from the ride quality being a bit on the poor side (although the roads here are horrendous so not entirely the cars fault), and I've been tempted since. My new job is all town driving so an EV would tick the box for me as my only longer distance trips are all on public transport so range for longer journeys isn't an issue at all for me.
Sadly not, I think I ordered at the start of the market change when the leadtime was still 6-9 months and deals were not on the table.
I think that maybe now it's possible especially if you get someone like Carwow to get them to pitch deals to you.