Modified Ferrari 348
Discussion
Anelis said:
Stripes are gone from the car.
I had a back to metal respray done and changed the colour from mettalic black to flat black.
Although i do miss the stripes.
More photos please! I had a back to metal respray done and changed the colour from mettalic black to flat black.
Although i do miss the stripes.
Great post. Great car! The proportions are great on the 348, but my least favourite bit are the rear lights. That said, they look a lot better on a black car than any other.
Hmm, I never liked the stripe, but it's your car
Can't wait to see it in flat back though... Not many people would have the OO's to do that
Thanks everyone.
When we start the work I'll stick up a new thread in the Ferrari section.
So far, I've got the engine, but the weak point is the suspension system. i had it refurbished a coupel of years ago, but I don't think it will cope with tHe increased power. Plus, it was designed nearly 20 years ago.
So I've just ordered a quantum racing adjustable suspension kit. It's a lot lighter and uses modern technology. Plus I can change the setting manually from soft to hard. Should have it in 6 weeks time.
This is what the damper looks like.
I also managed to find a set of very rare wheels that were made for the micholotto 348's that raced at le Mans. They are brand new, but are centre lock designs, which means a lot of modding for it to fit. I have to decide by midday wether to buy them or not so i'll be ringing around specialists to see if they can fabricate the hubs for me.
They are 18 x 8.5 and 18 x 11.
Here's a mod i did last year. It's an engine start button from a Honda S2000. Cost £50 from ebay.
Passengers love it when I ask them to press it to start the engine.
I also got some carbon fibre panels and stuck them inside. It covers the crappy looking original rubber surfaced bits.
I'll post up pics from the back to metal respray I had done later today.
When we start the work I'll stick up a new thread in the Ferrari section.
So far, I've got the engine, but the weak point is the suspension system. i had it refurbished a coupel of years ago, but I don't think it will cope with tHe increased power. Plus, it was designed nearly 20 years ago.
So I've just ordered a quantum racing adjustable suspension kit. It's a lot lighter and uses modern technology. Plus I can change the setting manually from soft to hard. Should have it in 6 weeks time.
This is what the damper looks like.
I also managed to find a set of very rare wheels that were made for the micholotto 348's that raced at le Mans. They are brand new, but are centre lock designs, which means a lot of modding for it to fit. I have to decide by midday wether to buy them or not so i'll be ringing around specialists to see if they can fabricate the hubs for me.
They are 18 x 8.5 and 18 x 11.
Here's a mod i did last year. It's an engine start button from a Honda S2000. Cost £50 from ebay.
Passengers love it when I ask them to press it to start the engine.
I also got some carbon fibre panels and stuck them inside. It covers the crappy looking original rubber surfaced bits.
I'll post up pics from the back to metal respray I had done later today.
Edited by Angelis on Tuesday 13th October 09:33
Great update..
Any cahnce of throwing up a spec list if you know?
Im assuming ferrari will have done oodles of head work on the flow bench, different cams, pistons, rods, valve springs, carbon trumpets (as pictured) thicker ID exhaust manifolds , possibly a reworked crank or something??
Would be interesting to read.
Just wish i had 30 grand to spend on a car, would definatley be looking at something like this to tinker with in my spare time haha
Wouldnt like to think of the insurance though at only 22 !
Dare i ask how much an engine of such pedigree is worth? Most historic race cars/engines usually fetch a super-high premium !
Did you consider speaking with Ohlins/Proflex/AST and so forth regarding suspension, any readon why you chose Quantum?
Any cahnce of throwing up a spec list if you know?
Im assuming ferrari will have done oodles of head work on the flow bench, different cams, pistons, rods, valve springs, carbon trumpets (as pictured) thicker ID exhaust manifolds , possibly a reworked crank or something??
Would be interesting to read.
Just wish i had 30 grand to spend on a car, would definatley be looking at something like this to tinker with in my spare time haha
Wouldnt like to think of the insurance though at only 22 !
Dare i ask how much an engine of such pedigree is worth? Most historic race cars/engines usually fetch a super-high premium !
Did you consider speaking with Ohlins/Proflex/AST and so forth regarding suspension, any readon why you chose Quantum?
Edited by Jessop on Tuesday 13th October 13:58
Jessop said:
Great update..
Any cahnce of throwing up a spec list if you know?
Im assuming ferrari will have done oodles of head work on the flow bench, different cams, pistons, rods, valve springs, carbon trumpets (as pictured) thicker ID exhaust manifolds , possibly a reworked crank or something??
Would be interesting to read.
Just wish i had 30 grand to spend on a car, would definatley be looking at something like this to tinker with in my spare time haha
Wouldnt like to think of the insurance though at only 22 !
Dare i ask how much an engine of such pedigree is worth? Most historic race cars/engines usually fetch a super-high premium !
Did you consider speaking with Ohlins/Proflex/AST and so forth regarding suspension, any readon why you chose Quantum?
The only spec details I have at the moment are:Any cahnce of throwing up a spec list if you know?
Im assuming ferrari will have done oodles of head work on the flow bench, different cams, pistons, rods, valve springs, carbon trumpets (as pictured) thicker ID exhaust manifolds , possibly a reworked crank or something??
Would be interesting to read.
Just wish i had 30 grand to spend on a car, would definatley be looking at something like this to tinker with in my spare time haha
Wouldnt like to think of the insurance though at only 22 !
Dare i ask how much an engine of such pedigree is worth? Most historic race cars/engines usually fetch a super-high premium !
Did you consider speaking with Ohlins/Proflex/AST and so forth regarding suspension, any readon why you chose Quantum?
Ted Wenz crank,
Cosworth Spec Pistons, Cams and Valve Springs.
Large valves.
Individual throttle butterflies.
Titanium rods.
Ported and polished heads.
Freshly rebuilt, no miles.
480bhp and revs to 9400rpm.
Most of the engine work was done by Simpson Motorsport www.simpsonmotorsport.co.uk. They received a 348 road car and an additional 5 engines from Ferrari and prepared it for Le Mans. Being a British company, they had Cosworth parts replacing the Ferrari ones and had the carbon plenums made up. The engine itself is a 348/355 development engine that Ferrari created. The block being from a 355.
Here's their car complete with the British Flag.....
As for the worth of the engine, I have no idea. It's been lying around in a workshop for a few years until a friend of mine saw it by chance. When I'm finished, I'll consider it priceless....although I'd happily swap it for an LP640.
I chose Quantum racing as a friend of mine has their setup on his 348 and he says it works well. Plus, they are a really nice bunch of guys and I like work with people I like and get along with.
Quick update... prep work on the engine is starting end of this week.
Edited by Angelis on Tuesday 13th October 17:23
But did you pay less for the engine than you paid for the car>?
Interesting read though my friend. Any plans to do some trackdays next year, would love to have a passenger ride
For a change, i'd be happy to say my little citroen wouldnt be able to give that a run for its money haha!
Top work!
Interesting read though my friend. Any plans to do some trackdays next year, would love to have a passenger ride
For a change, i'd be happy to say my little citroen wouldnt be able to give that a run for its money haha!
Top work!
john185k said:
Did you go for the wheels?
Everyone told me not to... but I couldn't resist!!Sent an email confirmation a couple of hours ago.
Just have to figure out how to put them on.
Jessop said:
But did you pay less for the engine than you paid for the car>?
Significantly less. Jessop said:
Any plans to do some trackdays next year, would love to have a passenger ride
No problem.Going to do some FOC track days next year and maybe some Lotus on track ones.
Weakest point on the car is actually me as I'm crap at driving. So next year I'll be ddoing courses and learning how to handle the car properly.
You'll find the new wheels (if you use the proper motorsport fitment center nut jobby's) a nightmare at trackdays , changing wheels etc will need the proper equipment.
Saying that, there is always a renault 21 turbo at the renault world series that has this set, no idea how he goes about using it properly though. saying that is is a genuine used 'race car' not a road car.
I would only really reccomend it for a dedicated track/race car rather than a road going occasional use track car.
Im sure the learning curve with the new engine & suspension would be immense. Any track instructor would probably jump at the opportunity to drive and give you some pointers
I'll keep my eyes peeled in my rear view mirror next year haha
Saying that, there is always a renault 21 turbo at the renault world series that has this set, no idea how he goes about using it properly though. saying that is is a genuine used 'race car' not a road car.
I would only really reccomend it for a dedicated track/race car rather than a road going occasional use track car.
Im sure the learning curve with the new engine & suspension would be immense. Any track instructor would probably jump at the opportunity to drive and give you some pointers
I'll keep my eyes peeled in my rear view mirror next year haha
Angelis said:
Next to a friends red 348
I actually saw your car and all the other Ferraris' the day that was taken Remember admiring the two striped examples thinking I'd never seen any 348s' that nice before. I snuck into the car park just as a few were starting to leave, was still quite a site seeing them all together!I and another PH'er turned up after a tip off on our regional forum
Great write up. Lovely car the 348, I've always loved them even though they are considered the worst of the Ferraris. I think I'm going to go for one in a couple of years. What attracts me the most is the fact that you do a lot of the work on these cars yourself due to the simple mechanics, etc
What an inspiring thread. Bookmarked and will be watching for the updates
I am not so sure the F purists will like it but it never was a purist car so who cares? I wish I had the money to do it as I liked it which is exactly what you have done.
Congrats on an an excellent thread and a lovely car
I am not so sure the F purists will like it but it never was a purist car so who cares? I wish I had the money to do it as I liked it which is exactly what you have done.
Congrats on an an excellent thread and a lovely car
Jessop said:
You'll find the new wheels (if you use the proper motorsport fitment center nut jobby's) a nightmare at trackdays , changing wheels etc will need the proper equipment.
Why would they be any different to a standard set of wheels?Of course you will need the correct sized socket, and a very long bar and torque wrench, but that is true of any wheels.
With a car like that you will not be able to carry jacks, tools, spares and stands to a trackday anyway, and would require a support vehicle to accompany you. Nothing different to what would be required whether the wheels have a single nut or 5 ...... so long as you remember the left hand thread of course
I've always wondered how those wheels work - I'm guessing there is a large diameter threaded boss on the hub, and then a whopping big wheel nut - and I presume a left hand thread on one side of the car to stop them unwinding (unless you drive backwards of course...?)
How do the discs attach to the hub?
How do the discs attach to the hub?
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