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cmoose
18,596 posts
98 months
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Carl_Docklands said: For this reason alone the Cayman R is not a good daily drive in my book however quick and gushing the reviews are on the track drive. Yes it is very quick and I would swap my boxster for one no questions asked - but its a special car with only two seats for occasional use. Its a second or third card where-as the BMW/GOLF are very versatile. Sorry, but that's complete b  ks in my view. The Cayman R is a complete pussy cat and would be a f king fabulous daily for anyone who loves driver's car. It's frankly ridiculously practical for a mid-engine two seater, to boot. Obviously if you need four seats you need something else. But that aside, it would make a wonderful daily drive.
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Phooey
6,102 posts
38 months
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DoubleSix said: Looked like the 1M backed off to me... Yeah possibly, but maybe not. 1M feels strong to 100, but needs tuning ime to do any damage.
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ChrisBuer
376 posts
94 months
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I had a good drive of a 997 Carerra GTS today and I really do get the Porsche thing. Things that i really noticed was that the driving position is much better than in the BMW, the brakes required a bit more work and the short shift gear change is much nicer. However I did notice the lack of torque although I felt that the throttle response was very good (sharper than the 1M in normal mode but not as sharp when it's in M-mode). Sufficed to say that I really liked the Porsche and even though my 1M feels more brutal in gear I can see the appeal of a Porsche. I guess I need to drive a Cayman R now 
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HokumPokum
725 posts
74 months
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ChrisBuer said: driving position is much better than in the BMW, the brakes required a bit more work and the short shift gear change is much nicer.......the lack of torque...... throttle response was very good Bingo......... every porsche is like that. It is the depth of engineering and the ability to integrate everything such that the whole is greater than the sum of parts that makes a porsche. Ps: throttle response is very good in "normal" as it is very linear. Sport mode is too jumpy IMO. Brakes require more work because they can be modulated effectively why on earth is no other manufacturer like this.......?
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cmoose
18,596 posts
98 months
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HokumPokum said: why on earth is no other manufacturer like this.......? Because most car buyers are impressed by turbo torque or when they feather the brake pedal and the thing tries to put them through the windscreen or how they can jump in a paddle-shift car and ping up and down the box like a pro without any skill required. I'd have preferred the 1M with the NA N52/3 six and would happily accept less power. It's much nicer than the turbo lump, but it's not what the market wants.
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ChrisBuer
376 posts
94 months
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cmoose said: Because most car buyers are impressed by turbo torque or when they feather the brake pedal and the thing tries to put them through the windscreen or how they can jump in a paddle-shift car and ping up and down the box like a pro without any skill required.
I'd have preferred the 1M with the NA N52/3 six and would happily accept less power. It's much nicer than the turbo lump, but it's not what the market wants. Having driven Elises and Caterhams most of my life, I actually prefer the brakes on these compared to my BMW. However, equally, the 1M is the first turbo car I’ve had and I actually like it just because it’s different. Supercharged was fun and so were the high revving NA engines, but a turbo makes a nice change. I did also drive a 997 Turbo a long time ago and whilst I preferred the feel of the GTS down the country lanes, I much preferred the wallop of the 997 Turbo! Horses for courses I guess….
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VonSenger
1,039 posts
58 months
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MadMark911 said: However, after several BMW's, I just find the Porsches more "special" and certain things just grow on you over time in a way that the BMW's never did for me.
MM. Like a beard?
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