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Porkupine
1,553 posts
35 months
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Defcon5 said: Could they be brought back to life with some TLC or are they done for? Have you bought it?
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thegoose
6,636 posts
80 months
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Pickled Piper said: graemel said: Camera flash is not flattering to black seats. In real life it won't look anywhere near as bad. This. pp  I never ever use flash when photographingg an interior - guaranteed way to make it look really bad (unless perhaps done by a pro in a studio).
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erics
1,886 posts
81 months
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You cannot do anything to porsche seats. Contrary to widespread myth, the leather from porsche (unlike, say rolls royce) is sealed, you can't and should *not* try and feed it. Just clean with clear water and v light soap and dry. copperman05 said: They look like pretty neglected full leather Recaro Poles, an example a to why you need to care for your leather seats.
Edd
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Defcon5
4,075 posts
61 months
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Porkupine said: Have you bought it? No, I'd certainly have asked the questions before so if I was going to!
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copperman05
78 posts
40 months
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erics said: You cannot do anything to porsche seats. Contrary to widespread myth, the leather from porsche (unlike, say rolls royce) is sealed, you can't and should *not* try and feed it. Just clean with clear water and v light soap and dry. copperman05 said: They look like pretty neglected full leather Recaro Poles, an example a to why you need to care for your leather seats.
Edd Who said anything about feeding leather? I said you should care for them, to say you can do nothing to Porsche seats is rubbish, you should keep them clean and free from the build up of dirt, otherwise they dry and crack up, as per the picture. Why you feel the need to tell me something I already know I have no idea. Edd
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kingstondc5
1,323 posts
74 months
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Genuine question as i must admit, ive never looked into this sorta thing, but if the leather is sealed, as suggested, how does the 'leather' dry out and wrinkle up like the pics?
Also, does anyone know where you can get replacement panels, either leather, nomex or other fabric from for the 996 GT3 Bucket seats?
Also, did Recaro manufacture them?
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monthefish
15,892 posts
101 months
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Pickled Piper said: graemel said: Camera flash is not flattering to black seats. In real life it won't look anywhere near as bad. This. pp Perhaps, but they're still not 14,000 mile seats. I'd go for the 'swapped seats' theory...
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copperman05
78 posts
40 months
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kingstondc5 said: Genuine question as i must admit, ive never looked into this sorta thing, but if the leather is sealed, as suggested, how does the 'leather' dry out and wrinkle up like the pics?
Also, does anyone know where you can get replacement panels, either leather, nomex or other fabric from for the 996 GT3 Bucket seats?
Also, did Recaro manufacture them? http://www.liquidleather.com/liquidl.htm Gliptone are one of the most popular leather care products out there, although 'sealed' your leather still needs to be kept clean to protect that seal, the problem with most leather conditioners is that they contain oils and greases that just attract dirt. Just like your skin leather needs to be moisturised (even sealed leather), a leather protectant should be used to protect the seal after cleaning with a dedicated leather cleaner. The modern way to clean and protect leather seats is to use wipes, these clean and protect at the same time. Dr leather wipes being the most popular. Re the panels, I suspect Southbound Trimmers could make you something, they re-trimmed my poles for me, the 996 GT3 seats are indeed made by Recaro I believe. Cheers Edd
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mrdemon
3,170 posts
135 months
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my GT3 seats :-), pm me if you want to by it ;-) Taken with flash, so they look better in real life if that's what people think lol 
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monthefish
15,892 posts
101 months
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mrdemon said: my GT3 seats :-), pm me if you want to by it ;-) Taken with flash, so they look better in real life if that's what people think lol Mint! What mileage? (just for comparison's sake)
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willmac
702 posts
34 months
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erics said: You cannot do anything to porsche seats. Contrary to widespread myth, the leather from porsche (unlike, say rolls royce) is sealed, you can't and should *not* try and feed it. Just clean with clear water and v light soap and dry. copperman05 said: They look like pretty neglected full leather Recaro Poles, an example a to why you need to care for your leather seats.
Edd Never heard of that before about Porsche seats being sealed leather Erics. Where did you get that info if you don't mind me asking ?
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mrdemon
3,170 posts
135 months
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monthefish said: Mint!
What mileage? (just for comparison's sake) 21,000 miles
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copperman05
78 posts
40 months
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willmac said: Never heard of that before about Porsche seats being sealed leather Erics. Where did you get that info if you don't mind me asking ? Reproduced from another forum: "What is the top coat? Top coat is a protection coat to the color (pigment [paint]) coat. The finishes can vary from gloss, semi-gloss to matte. A top coat extends the durability, color, and life of the color coat by years and years (if proper care is taken). It also defines the total look and even feel of the leather. Top coats are also a paint, using the same technology as the color coat (polyurethane is one type)." You will find all modern nappa leather has this top coat seal, not just Porsche, it protects and prolongs the life of the leather by several times. Although it seals the leather its still needs care to prevent damage, drying out and cracking. According to Gliptone soapy water should NOT be used as it shrinks and hardens the leather. Edd
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kingstondc5
1,323 posts
74 months
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mrdemon said: 21,000 miles Mines at roughly that and no where near look as good  How have you kept them so good? So what causes the creasing then as i wouldnt say the initial pic is cracking more creasing
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911p
Original Poster
1,909 posts
50 months
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copperman05 said: You will find all modern nappa leather has this top coat seal, not just Porsche, it protects and prolongs the life of the leather by several times. Although it seals the leather its still needs care to prevent damage, drying out and cracking. According to Gliptone soapy water should NOT be used as it shrinks and hardens the leather. What would you suggest to maintain the leather? I've always used leather balm, this is obviously not the correct procedure after a read of the comments.
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copperman05
78 posts
40 months
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911p said: What would you suggest to maintain the leather? I've always used leather balm, this is obviously not the correct procedure after a read of the comments. I would just use a dedicated leather cleaner like Gliptones (they do two, a heavy duty one and a milder spray type), although decent leather cleaners can also be had from Halfords (Auto Glym leather cleaner and Zymol Leather cleaner) if leather is old and cracked it may benefit from Gliptones conditioner too (which contains no oils) but most modern new leathers will not require it. Many on detailing world are now using leather wipes from Dr Leather, very good but you have to buy large quantities so may not be so practical. Edd
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m33ufo
1,687 posts
101 months
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mrdemon said: my GT3 seats :-), pm me if you want to by it ;-) Taken with flash, so they look better in real life if that's what people think lol Mine looked pretty much mint at 30K miles although one area which pi$$ed me off was the stitching which had worn away as you slide over the seat on the drivers side. How's the stitching on yours?
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