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TB993tt

1,088 posts

111 months

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White LotusExcel said:
They want it so it some is meant to stop you changing ya plates while in da country to avoid speeding tickets,
Doesn't make sense since it is only the fixed cameras which rely on plates for the ticket and they don't currently send them on to UK. If you use fake plates it won't stop you getting stopped and fined by the usual proliferation of roadside traps who send the bike to pull you over...

Edited by TB993tt on Thursday 3rd June 15:51

phib

2,536 posts

129 months

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Silent1 said:
Womaniser said:
Why do people velcro plates on, that's gotta' be dangerous! I can imagine you're travelling at around 70MPH and the turbulence rips the plate off and over/under your car. Nothing nicer than having a number plate smash into your windscreen!

yikes
I've had velcro plates stay on past 140mph.
I have velcro ones as well they stay on over 180mph come rain or shine, been on the car for 3 years no issues so far

Phib

MogulBoy

1,686 posts

93 months

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As said above, it's not the velcro that's likely to be the weak link, it's the type self-adhesive used and whether or not it's waterproof (should be), or heat stable (aye, there's the rub) etc. but I used to use this on my old Scooby and never had an issue.

However, Mr self important French copper cannot be serious if they are insisting on this and I would be tempted to seek advice from a UK road lobby and a get a letter written to the Gendarmerie concerned claiming criminal damage.

Here's a fact for you. No Swiss car has ever had its plates fixed to the car. Our plates belong to the authorities and we just pay to 'rent' them. They clip into (generally) plastic holders but the plates themselves can be removed from said holders in a jiffy.

It is even perfectly legal to share one set of plates between two (or more) cars (as long as you have paid more road tax for the privilege: you pay full whack for the more expensive car and 20% of the cost of your 2nd car etc.).

There's no way in Hell that the French are going to insist on having every Swiss car's plates that crosses the border rivited on in such a manner. It would become a diplomatic incident!

It would not surprise me if many other EU countries had similar situaiton with their plates as the Swiss.

It's a shame that France can sometimes come across as anti-car. They have a long history of motorsport, plenty of space and I'm not aware that it is particulary dangerous place to drive...

P.S. One time I was at a track day at Lurcy-Levis and the local plod came to have a look. They knew that we were all likely to be heading back towards Geneva so a couple of them hid behind a bush of kms outside the circuit on the only road in that direction, laser guns in hand, just after closing time (at the circuit)! We drove past comfortably under the limit having had our fun on the circuit. The perfect end to a perfect day.


Edited by MogulBoy on Thursday 3rd June 16:36

juansolo

2,419 posts

148 months

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Once again proof that the only thing wrong with France is the French.

rlw

2,183 posts

107 months

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Thursday 3rd June 2010 quote quote all
The point of the rivets in France is so that they CANNOT be swapped, unlike the Swiss ones.
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John D.

9,590 posts

79 months

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Enough of the velcro speed king stories wink

Does anyone know if this rule applies to sticker plates too? I imagine it does as they are not technically legal in the UK either whistle

graemel

4,595 posts

87 months

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John D. said:
Enough of the velcro speed king stories wink

Does anyone know if this rule applies to sticker plates too? I imagine it does as they are not technically legal in the UK either whistle
You beat me to it. I was going to ask the same question.

solidstatelogic

345 posts

38 months

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Sticker plates? You mean a plate that is a sticker stuck on the bonnet or do you mean a normal number plate attached with sticky adhesive pads?

Having a "sticker" of a number plate I believe is illegal in the UK anyway after looking into the idea myself. But I have seen cars with them on e.g. Jaguar XKs.

Using adhesive pads to stick a plate on a car is not a good idea in my experience. They are unreliable and particularly susceptible to heat i.e. they melt and fall off when its very hot.

Personally I don't care about France to even want to go there and be stopped by some cheese-eating surrender monkey.

graemel

4,595 posts

87 months

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To clarify a number plate in sticker form. Used on many many classic cars over the years E-Type Jags, caterhams etc

christer

2,801 posts

121 months

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I think it apt to mention that whilst I am no shrinking violet I find French genadarmes and customs scary. I remember once when I was queuing at the Eurotunnel in my old GT3 behind a Range Rover at customs. The Range moved over to another lane and assuming that another booth was open I followed. I was immediately and agressively engaged by a customs guy who asked me what the f**k I was doing and whether I was fu**ing stupid. Apparently he had asked the Range only to move over to speak to the driver which I couldn't see due to ride height. It doesn't sound much I guess but it was pretty shocking behaviour for a tax-paid official to speak to any member of public like that.....first I was shocked then I got pissed off and then my other half defused the situation. Nasty fkers those French authoroties.....

supermono

6,246 posts

118 months

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Oh thanks guys, I'm really looking forward to first drive through france in a fast car next week now, lol.

SM

rlw

2,183 posts

107 months

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supermono said:
Oh thanks guys, I'm really looking forward to first drive through france in a fast car next week now, lol.

SM
As long as you:-

Have a high-viz jacket IN the car, a complete set of spare bulbs, a GB sticker on the back, a first aid kit, your V5, MOT and insurance certificates, your driving licence and your passport.
Use your seatbelts at all times front and rear.
Have adjusted or masked off your headlights.
Don't exceed the speed limit or drive live a tt in some other way.
Have a very attractive female dressed quite alluringly who can translate word for word what the French BiB says and who knows French motoring law intimately.

You will be fine.

fergus

4,956 posts

145 months

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Get a tele-peage pass and you will go in the lane furthest from the feds....

From what I can gather from a few sources, the VX220 guys made themselves an obvious target by acting like tw@ts.

May sure you have all paperwork and hi-viz, bulbs, 1st aid kit, etc and you will be fine.

BIG DUNC

874 posts

93 months

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Are VX220s sold in France, and if so how are the front plates attached when they leave the GM dealership new?

cliffie

156 posts

88 months

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BIG DUNC said:
Are VX220s sold in France, and if so how are the front plates attached when they leave the GM dealership new?
They are stuck on except they are known as Opel Speedster on the mainland.

He was an over zealous copper who was warming his biro and fine book up for Le Mans.

supermono

6,246 posts

118 months

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Headlights wise I don't suppose they expect you to carry a spare xenon bulb do they?

Also, speaking of that isn't there a switch to sort out the xenons for a continental position?

SM

1954etype

203 posts

41 months

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rlw said:
supermono said:
Oh thanks guys, I'm really looking forward to first drive through france in a fast car next week now, lol.

SM
As long as you:-

Have a high-viz jacket IN the car, a complete set of spare bulbs, a GB sticker on the back, a first aid kit, your V5, MOT and insurance certificates, your driving licence and your passport.
Use your seatbelts at all times front and rear.
Have adjusted or masked off your headlights.
Don't exceed the speed limit or drive live a tt in some other way.
Have a very attractive female dressed quite alluringly who can translate word for word what the French BiB says and who knows French motoring law intimately.

You will be fine.
The other thing to take with you is a spare of glasses if you need them to drive. This is a legal requirement in France. Have to say that all my driving on the continent, I have never had a problem driving the E Type. It has as stick on front number plate. I've never put stickers on the headlights (bit difficult as they are covered) or stuck a GB sticker on the car). Most of my mileage is French driving as the roads are so much better. Don't know what you hooligans do to upset our continental cousins wink

John D.

9,590 posts

79 months

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solidstatelogic said:
Sticker plates? You mean a plate that is a sticker stuck on the bonnet or do you mean a normal number plate attached with sticky adhesive pads?

Having a "sticker" of a number plate I believe is illegal in the UK anyway after looking into the idea myself. But I have seen cars with them on e.g. Jaguar XKs.
I mean a plate that is a sticker itself. No velcro or separate sticky tabs.

I believe you are right that it is technically illegal in the UK. I bought mine online from an Irish company. Its actually sold as a 'show plate' (that must be the loophole) but the reg is in the correct size/font/spacing etc.

I'm not worried about getting pulled for it over here though. Hell, I ran around with no front plate for a couple of weeks before I got it! biggrin

solidstatelogic

345 posts

38 months

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Which company did you buy from? I can't find anyone on the web who makes them.

John D.

9,590 posts

79 months

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