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Jockman
7,365 posts
30 months
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jonby said: I traacked both my last cars roof up & roof down. I much preferred it roof down, if nothing else because it gets so hot in a small cabin wearing a helmet. I'm not sure any of us would be good enough drivers to tell the difference in drag, which I guess is the only possible advantage to roof up. Roof down or up, IMO, makes no difference to rigidity. Despite the better ride quality, I thought you could tell even less in the V12VR that you were in a soft top yesterday and I had the roof down the whole time. It really is a mightily impressive car Apologies Jonby - I've just edited my post, the advice on the soft tops is always to track with roof DOWN !! That will teach me to proof read 
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jonby
1,801 posts
27 months
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Jockman said: jonby said: I traacked both my last cars roof up & roof down. I much preferred it roof down, if nothing else because it gets so hot in a small cabin wearing a helmet. I'm not sure any of us would be good enough drivers to tell the difference in drag, which I guess is the only possible advantage to roof up. Roof down or up, IMO, makes no difference to rigidity. Despite the better ride quality, I thought you could tell even less in the V12VR that you were in a soft top yesterday and I had the roof down the whole time. It really is a mightily impressive car Apologies Jonby - I've just edited my post, the advice on the soft tops is always to track with roof DOWN !! That will teach me to proof read I was wondering ! :-)
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Alwin
113 posts
11 months
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jonby, silverspeed, Thanks for your driving impressions!
Now I really can't wait :-)
BTW: my dealer told me that production of my #002 (planned for Oct 13) was moved to Sept 3.
Which would mean that they're working on my car at this very moment :-)
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hornbaek
1,871 posts
105 months
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The difference in ride between a convertible and a coupe was something I discovered in my Porsche 997 turbo and cabriolet. I had the coupe initially and then changed it to the cabriolet when that arrived a year later. The ride in the cabriolet was more compliant and it also hugged corners better than the equivalent coupe due to the slight flex in the structure. Also the softer suspension set up of the turbo cabriolet made it much better suited to the British roads than the much stiffer suspension of the coupe which almost skidded round the corners on anything but the smoothest tracks. I guess it must be the same for the V12VR.
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DB9 Ian P
534 posts
25 months
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Alwin said: jonby, silverspeed, Thanks for your driving impressions!
Now I really can't wait :-)
BTW: my dealer told me that production of my #002 (planned for Oct 13) was moved to Sept 3.
Which would mean that they're working on my car at this very moment :-) Alwin, very interested to hear your date has been brought forward. I have been told mine is in the first batch being built but this would go into production at the end of September. Perhaps when I go for my test drive next week they will have some good news for me as well 
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silverspeed
875 posts
100 months
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Alwin said: jonby, silverspeed, Thanks for your driving impressions!
Now I really can't wait :-)
BTW: my dealer told me that production of my #002 (planned for Oct 13) was moved to Sept 3.
Which would mean that they're working on my car at this very moment :-) Do you have your VIN yet? I would be surprised if you are in build as certain items like correct wheels were not on the test car today. I've calmed down a bit now after my drive! It was a very impressive car. Didn't put the roof up during the drive! No need suns out V12 orchestra and wind on my hair. Life doesn't get any better really. I'm still on line 15th October.
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jonby
1,801 posts
27 months
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hornbaek said: The difference in ride between a convertible and a coupe was something I discovered in my Porsche 997 turbo and cabriolet. I had the coupe initially and then changed it to the cabriolet when that arrived a year later. The ride in the cabriolet was more compliant and it also hugged corners better than the equivalent coupe due to the slight flex in the structure. Also the softer suspension set up of the turbo cabriolet made it much better suited to the British roads than the much stiffer suspension of the coupe which almost skidded round the corners on anything but the smoothest tracks. I guess it must be the same for the V12VR. I think there is definitely an element of that but I'm not so sure about the flex aspect - the Vantage roadster really is just about the stiffest structure out there of any drop top that has a coupe equivalent. I think until the advent of the new Mclaren spider which one assumes will be very stiff from the carbon tub, Vantage was pretty much class leading in that respect I suspect that it's partially simply down to a very long time to test, hone & refine the exact suspension settings & components because of course unusually by Aston standards, V12V Coupe specs have remained quite literally identical since launch and this is their first chance to make a change - remember Ian Minnards has been driving one of these for a long time now.
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jonby
1,801 posts
27 months
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Shmee
5,734 posts
83 months
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jonby said: Is there any chance you could e-mail me the pre-instagram photos? I'd love to put them online at http://www.astonregistry.com as this must be the 4th car given the 62 plate. If so, v12vr@shmee150.co.uk Thanks! If anybody else sees this car, a really quick photo of the VIN (lower windscreen) and plaque numbers (door sills?) would be very much appreciated.
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jonby
1,801 posts
27 months
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Shmee said: jonby said: Is there any chance you could e-mail me the pre-instagram photos? I'd love to put them online at http://www.astonregistry.com as this must be the 4th car given the 62 plate. If so, v12vr@shmee150.co.uk Thanks! If anybody else sees this car, a really quick photo of the VIN (lower windscreen) and plaque numbers (door sills?) would be very much appreciated. The plaques are standard V12V Coupe plaques - un-numbered. I really do think it likely this and the dark grey one in Europe are not customer cars and will never be sold. VIN number ends 21060 - I didn't forget you Shmee ! :-) The photos were taken by Dunkie (Paul Dunk) who works at Stratstone Derby and posted links to these on his twitter account
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DB9 Ian P
534 posts
25 months
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Shmee, I am seeing it next Wednesday so will look for the VIN if someone has reported it before. I think Jonby said the didn't have a plaque number which is probably indiciative that it is a development car and will not count towards the 101 cars they intend to build.
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Shmee
5,734 posts
83 months
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Thank you for the help, I've added it already. The full VIN would be wonderful if possible in due course.
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paddy328
1,256 posts
55 months
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Just a quick pic of one i saw in the wild a couple of weeks back. 
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silverspeed
875 posts
100 months
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paddy328 said: Just a quick pic of one i saw in the wild a couple of weeks back. Same car I drove today! I have a pic of the VIN but can't upload it from my I phone! Number is SCFEABFF4CGS21060. The VIN allocated to my car has the last 5 digits 20000 according to my dealer.
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paddy328
1,256 posts
55 months
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Is this the colour you're getting or is yours going to be more red?
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Shmee
5,734 posts
83 months
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silverspeed said: paddy328 said: Just a quick pic of one i saw in the wild a couple of weeks back. Same car I drove today! I have a pic of the VIN but can't upload it from my I phone! Number is SCFEABFF4CGS21060. The VIN allocated to my car has the last 5 digits 20000 according to my dealer. Is that picture not the '12 plate car and the one you drove today the '62 plate? That picture being a couple of weeks ago means it can't have been the latter; or perhaps with the trade plate on it could have been. ???
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jonby
1,801 posts
27 months
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Shmee said: silverspeed said: paddy328 said: Just a quick pic of one i saw in the wild a couple of weeks back. Same car I drove today! I have a pic of the VIN but can't upload it from my I phone! Number is SCFEABFF4CGS21060. The VIN allocated to my car has the last 5 digits 20000 according to my dealer. Is that picture not the '12 plate car and the one you drove today the '62 plate? That picture being a couple of weeks ago means it can't have been the latter; or perhaps with the trade plate on it could have been. ??? saw this car a few hundred yards away, with trade plates on, at Gaydon when I went to the Sunday Service last weekend - you had to be eagle eyed to spot it :-) THink it's the 62 plate car
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silverspeed
875 posts
100 months
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paddy328 said: Is this the colour you're getting or is yours going to be more red? More red bit like magma red.
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jonby
1,801 posts
27 months
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apparently it's reviewed favourably in this months edition of evo, out today to mag subscribers
Also, fifth gear n monday has sls roadster v aston martin ? Could be the V12VR - obvious competitor at similar money.
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silverspeed
875 posts
100 months
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jonby said: apparently it's reviewed favourably in this months edition of evo, out today to mag subscribers
Also, fifth gear n monday has sls roadster v aston martin ? Could be the V12VR - obvious competitor at similar money. According to the web Tiff tested SLS against DBS Volante in July . May be that - hope it's the R!
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