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suh4il
2 posts
91 months
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Just had my car broken into a couple days ago in W1, London. 2011 M3...
Returned to my car in the morning to find both front windows down exactly the same amount (just over half way) as if opened by remote comfort access, and the doors unlocked. Oddly they only stole my interior dash and door trims (carbon fibre effect leather), air vents and my starter button, so I can't drive the car!
I have keyless access/go, and always lock the car by using the touch sensor on the door handle, so not affected by alarm blockers (I think...). The fact that both windows were lowered the same amount has me thinking they must have used some sort of remote access.
So far BMW acting as if clueless... Police officer said to me he had seen another similar incident recently but involving a Merc.
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JimmyTheHand
458 posts
11 months
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sinizter said: My car's indicators will not flash if they are already locked or unlocked. This is one thing I hate on mine - it only flashes to show a locking, so when I unlock it from a short distance but don't hear locks I am never sure whether I locked it or just didn't hear it unlock
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VERN UK
133 posts
13 months
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suh4il said: Just had my car broken into a couple days ago in W1, London. 2011 M3...
Returned to my car in the morning to find both front windows down exactly the same amount (just over half way) as if opened by remote comfort access, and the doors unlocked. Oddly they only stole my interior dash and door trims (carbon fibre effect leather), air vents and my starter button, so I can't drive the car!
I have keyless access/go, and always lock the car by using the touch sensor on the door handle, so not affected by alarm blockers (I think...). The fact that both windows were lowered the same amount has me thinking they must have used some sort of remote access.
So far BMW acting as if clueless... Police officer said to me he had seen another similar incident recently but involving a Merc. Sorry to hear......but you win this months top lurker award......
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t8cmf
206 posts
29 months
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VERN UK said: Sorry to hear......but you win this months top lurker award...... Ha ha....I though exactly the same thing. 
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Pesty
25,827 posts
125 months
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German
147 posts
16 months
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suh4il said: Just had my car broken into a couple days ago in W1, London. 2011 M3...
Returned to my car in the morning to find both front windows down exactly the same amount (just over half way) as if opened by remote comfort access, and the doors unlocked. Oddly they only stole my interior dash and door trims (carbon fibre effect leather), air vents and my starter button, so I can't drive the car!
I have keyless access/go, and always lock the car by using the touch sensor on the door handle, so not affected by alarm blockers (I think...). The fact that both windows were lowered the same amount has me thinking they must have used some sort of remote access.
So far BMW acting as if clueless... Police officer said to me he had seen another similar incident recently but involving a Merc. Based on what happened to others on here, if you are planning to keep it as soon as it's fixed disable the OBD and get a Disklock. There is nothing to say they havent already programmed a key and are just waiting for you to get it fixed so they can have double the parts.... Maybe worth asking the dealer to check if a key has been added while you are at it. Wont stop the theiving scum doing the same again, but you'll keep the car at least. Sorry to hear it and best of luck 
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Brummmie
4,215 posts
90 months
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I have had an insurance quote, been as my insurance is up in November and this would have given me time to sell if it was through the roof.
I am a business user so higher premiums, Last year nearly £900 this year just under £700.
My six points are up next year, so maybe this has impact, but none the less i am moving the OBD port, and keeping it.
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GTSJOE
20 posts
22 months
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I had 2 BMW X5's stolen from London W9 in the last 6 months . The first car was never found even though it had a Tracker Horizon fitted to the car , the second car was found the same night that it went missing . The thieves had parked it up off the A1 waiting to see if I had a second tracker fitted to the car.
I have been on the case with BMW , they are an arrogant bunch of idiots , never offering any help , they even tried to make me sign a full and final settlement letter before they would do a software upgrade.
I dropped my car off at a main dealer to have the OBD disconnected , to my surprise the dealer told me that BMW had come up with a new software programme that will sort out the issues, my car was the first to have the upgrade, supposedly the upgrade stops keys being reprogrammed through the OBD.
I would advise you to call your local BMW main dealer and ask for the upgrade. BMW will start a marketing campaign in September highlighting the solution . Good luck .
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youngsyr
6,774 posts
61 months
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Possibly redundent now given the post above, but I emailed a friend in Thames Valley police and they are aware of the issue, to the extent that the (anti) burglary team have been sent pictures of the equipment the thieves are using so that they can identify and seize it during house raids. Apparently it's still rare outside of the two hotspots - there hasn't been a single reported theft using this method in Oxford for example.
This may well be because the thieves are using a limited number of stolen reprogramming tools that were issued to dealerships and not some generic software that can be used on any laptop.
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vblanche
4 posts
38 months
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GTSJOE said: I had 2 BMW X5's stolen from London W9 in the last 6 months . The first car was never found even though it had a Tracker Horizon fitted to the car , the second car was found the same night that it went missing . The thieves had parked it up off the A1 waiting to see if I had a second tracker fitted to the car.
I have been on the case with BMW , they are an arrogant bunch of idiots , never offering any help , they even tried to make me sign a full and final settlement letter before they would do a software upgrade.
I dropped my car off at a main dealer to have the OBD disconnected , to my surprise the dealer told me that BMW had come up with a new software programme that will sort out the issues, my car was the first to have the upgrade, supposedly the upgrade stops keys being reprogrammed through the OBD.
I would advise you to call your local BMW main dealer and ask for the upgrade. BMW will start a marketing campaign in September highlighting the solution . Good luck . sorry to see that you lost 2 X5, crazy that the tracker did not work... About this software upgrade, did the dealer ask you anything to pay? there should be a goodwill? thanks
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mrmr96
11,923 posts
73 months
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vblanche said: GTSJOE said: I had 2 BMW X5's stolen from London W9 in the last 6 months . The first car was never found even though it had a Tracker Horizon fitted to the car , the second car was found the same night that it went missing . The thieves had parked it up off the A1 waiting to see if I had a second tracker fitted to the car.
I have been on the case with BMW , they are an arrogant bunch of idiots , never offering any help , they even tried to make me sign a full and final settlement letter before they would do a software upgrade.
I dropped my car off at a main dealer to have the OBD disconnected , to my surprise the dealer told me that BMW had come up with a new software programme that will sort out the issues, my car was the first to have the upgrade, supposedly the upgrade stops keys being reprogrammed through the OBD.
I would advise you to call your local BMW main dealer and ask for the upgrade. BMW will start a marketing campaign in September highlighting the solution . Good luck . sorry to see that you lost 2 X5, crazy that the tracker did not work... About this software upgrade, did the dealer ask you anything to pay? there should be a goodwill? thanks This. Can you please share some more info on this upgrade BMW did for you? How long did it take? Was there a cost involved? Was it covered by your warranty? Thanks.
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aeropilot
6,998 posts
96 months
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youngsyr said: This may well be because the thieves are using a limited number of stolen reprogramming tools that were issued to dealerships and not some generic software that can be used on any laptop. Have you not read this thread? They are using hand held portable device that you can buy off ebay for about 300 quid. Not a stolen BMW device, and no laptop needed.
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mrmr96
11,923 posts
73 months
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aeropilot said: They are using hand held portable device that you can buy off ebay for about 300 quid. eBay Link?
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mrmr96
11,923 posts
73 months
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vblanche said: mrmr96 said: eBay Link? are you going to try to steal a car? I'm a 5 year member with nearly 10k posts. What do you think? I'm trying to find out what we're up against. I'd imagine that if they were really on ebay for £300 then we'd have a nationwide rash of thefts nightly, but we don't. So I don't think the tools are as easily available as being made out.
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eastsider
617 posts
92 months
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GTSJOE said: BMW will start a marketing campaign in September highlighting the solution. I will believe this when I see it.  Sorry to hear of your losses.
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eastsider
617 posts
92 months
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mrmr96 said: eBay Link? Search on youtube for BMW key programming, follow the clues there and you'll find where to buy these things quick enough. eBay seem to have got rid of most of them at the moment.
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vblanche
4 posts
38 months
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vblanche said: are you going to try to steal a car? sorry, did not mean to offend in any way. apologies
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mrmr96
11,923 posts
73 months
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vblanche said: vblanche said: are you going to try to steal a car? sorry, did not mean to offend in any way. apologies Accepted. 
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GTSJOE
20 posts
22 months
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I spoke to BMW about the implications of disconnecting the OBD from the Ecu , I wanted to know if it would impact the warranty . Sukh Bramba at BMW told me that it would not impact the warranty for the car ex any problems with the OBD. I dropped the car off at my local dealership to have the Odb disconnected , the car also needed a service ... When I went to pick the car up the manager at the dealership told me that BMW had come up with a software solution that would solve the problem , it's would stop keys being reprogrammed through the OBD, they have also solved the issue relating to "comfort opening" , thieves were getting access to the car by sticking a screw driver into the lock , the windows would open automatically.
There was no charge for the software upgrade.
I would advise you to talk to BMW UK about the upgrade.
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GTSJOE
20 posts
22 months
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I spoke to BMW about the implications of disconnecting the OBD from the Ecu , I wanted to know if it would impact the warranty . Sukh Bramba at BMW told me that it would not impact the warranty for the car ex any problems with the OBD. I dropped the car off at my local dealership to have the Odb disconnected , the car also needed a service ... When I went to pick the car up the manager at the dealership told me that BMW had come up with a software solution that would solve the problem , it's would stop keys being reprogrammed through the OBD, they have also solved the issue relating to "comfort opening" , thieves were getting access to the car by sticking a screw driver into the lock , the windows would open automatically.
There was no charge for the software upgrade.
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