The friendly "dumb" bike questions thread

The friendly "dumb" bike questions thread

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Berz

406 posts

194 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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SteelerSE said:
Yes and no.

If you're carrying a laptop I find that having it in a rucksack is one of the only ways of ensuring that it stays healthy! The battering that it can take from the suspension otherwise is too much - or at least it has been for the hard discs of a couple of work laptops.

If it's not anything breakable/electronic then I completely agree, tailpack or topbox, though the decent rucksacks do make a difference. I use Kriega or Osprey.
If they're expecting you take your laptop home your laptop should be suitable for your commute, within reason. See if you can wangle an upgrade to a SSD and lord it over your colleagues smile

SteelerSE

1,897 posts

158 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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They'd be fine with it but the hard drive wouldn't be big enough unfortunately. frown

I did recently buy a Kriega laptop sleeve which is ideal for protecting it but the hard drive would still be knackered in short order in a top box or on the rear seat.

kurt535

3,559 posts

119 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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TooLateForAName said:
Rutter said:
Cbull said:
Silly question incoming. On the MOD 2 test, is it OK to filter or should you treat the traffic like you're in a car?
When i did mine (outside of london) I wasn't marked down for not filtering, although there was little opportunity to.
I've been advised not to filter on test. Instructor says that its just inviting a fail - if you cause another driver to have to brake or change direction then it counts against you. So given the choice between doing something that introduces a chance of failure or sitting quietly in the traffic...

But then I'm not in London.
You cannot fail for deciding not to filter. Simply make some observations to suggest you considered filtering but chose not to because it would compromise your safety.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

214 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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CaptainMorgan said:
I done my test in London, spent a good chunk of it sat in traffic ticking the time away, got back to a near clean sheet (one unrelated minor). Seems crazy to filter and risk an incident than to just chill in traffic. I did get thrown in the deep end on the ride home though, M25 on a friday rush hour lol
I failed my first bike test because in the absolute pissing rain, I DIDN'T overtake a HGV. I just sat a sensible distance behind it at the speed limit . "Lack of progress"s or whatever it was. TBF It was a dual carriageway. So I could have, but I overthought it and decided on balance not to.

Examiner was a former courier. And when I did pass, I had him again and spent most of the time slightly speeding. No mention of that at all! laugh

Cbull

4,464 posts

173 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Another couple of stoopid questions (and there's plenty more where they came from smile)

According to the manual, my bike (01 Kawa ZX6R) oil viscosoty is SAE 10W-40, 10W-50, 20W-40 or 20W50. That's pretty confusing for a simpleton, should I just go with 10W-40?

The radiator is in a terrible condition and needs replacing and is fully topped up fsr. Been quoted £430 for the rad, £65 for the hoses and 3 hrs labour. That's insane. I'm tempted to go with a Chinese aluminiom copy from Ebay for £100'ish and installing myself. Has anyone had any experience with a Chinese variation rather than hearsay?

Thanks smile



anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
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Riding Tips - Slow Speed Manoeuvring

I did my CBT a week ago, and the instructor was teaching the slow speed manoeuvring as follows:

1st gear, build revs, hold revs, slip the clutch in and out to control speed, drag the back brake to give the bike something to pull against. The theory being that dragging the back brake adds stability at low speed.

Then, I watched this YT clip which suggests NOT to drag the back brake: https://youtu.be/v-BDrAxjAFI?t=2m27s (2m 27s onwards)

Which one is correct?!

graham22

3,295 posts

207 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
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There are times when you need to drag the back brake & times you won't - it's all about feel at the time.

The rider in the clip did look a bit ham-fisted though.


graham22

3,295 posts

207 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
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OK - my question, 'Belly Pan or no' on my Fazer:





The belly pan is currently bare carbon fibre which doesn't help, looking to get it wrapped in the correct Lava Red.

I took it off to do an oil change and quite like the old school superbike look now I've also fitted fat-bar handlebars but also feel it may look more complete once the right colour.





Edited by graham22 on Friday 23 June 12:30

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

192 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
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Cbull said:
Another couple of stoopid questions (and there's plenty more where they came from smile)

According to the manual, my bike (01 Kawa ZX6R) oil viscosoty is SAE 10W-40, 10W-50, 20W-40 or 20W50. That's pretty confusing for a simpleton, should I just go with 10W-40?

The radiator is in a terrible condition and needs replacing and is fully topped up fsr. Been quoted £430 for the rad, £65 for the hoses and 3 hrs labour. That's insane. I'm tempted to go with a Chinese aluminiom copy from Ebay for £100'ish and installing myself. Has anyone had any experience with a Chinese variation rather than hearsay?

Thanks smile
Oil viscosity is measured in "winters". The range denotes the temperature range at which the multigraded oil best performs. The manufacturer of your motorcycle will generally provide you with a list of oil grades along with ambient temperature recommendations. 10-40W is fairly typical of the UK climate. 20-50W may be more appropriate for a much warmer climate for example.

My limited understanding, is that the larger range of temperature an oil covers, i.e. 10-50W rather than 10-40W, it would be expected to degrade slightly faster. Specialists like "Opie Oils", have great patience in explaning this to customers, and have some decent literature on their website IIRC.

I fitted a budget radiator recently. It was similarly about 1/5 the price. It looked the part but did not fit as per the original, the mountings were notably more fragile, the welds weaker, and the number of fins greatly reduced. So it did not cool as effectively.

On an 18 year old non-performance bike that isn't an issue but personally I would instead look to have the radiator "re-cored" at a specialist unless it's leaking. The costs are equivalent, it's a guaranteed fitment, you do have to ring around however, and not all "specialists" are created equal.

As for fitment of a radiatior, assuming the mountings are the same, it's a simple job. You may want to have some spare "jubilee" clips on standby however!













Rubin215

3,994 posts

158 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
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Mac. said:
Riding Tips - Slow Speed Manoeuvring

I did my CBT a week ago, and the instructor was teaching the slow speed manoeuvring as follows:

1st gear, build revs, hold revs, slip the clutch in and out to control speed, drag the back brake to give the bike something to pull against. The theory being that dragging the back brake adds stability at low speed.

Then, I watched this YT clip which suggests NOT to drag the back brake: https://youtu.be/v-BDrAxjAFI?t=2m27s (2m 27s onwards)

Which one is correct?!
I spent ten years teaching various numpties to ride bikes and the set revs/slip clutch/drag brake techniques is the one that I always found works best.

Engine at a fast tickover gives decent power so it won't bog down but not enough so that your rev'ing the tits off it.
Slipping the clutch puts some but not all of the power to the back wheel.
Gentle toes on back brake (think about having an egg between your foot and the pedal and you won't go wrong) stops the bike running away from you.

Definitely works.

CAPP0

19,650 posts

205 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
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Cbull said:
According to the manual, my bike (01 Kawa ZX6R) oil viscosoty is SAE 10W-40, 10W-50, 20W-40 or 20W50. That's pretty confusing for a simpleton, should I just go with 10W-40?
That pretty much sounds like you can put just about any bike oil in it! (Seriously!) Just don't drop below a 10W.

Cbull

4,464 posts

173 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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Thanks very much chaps smile. Will rock some 10W40. Would have preffered the fully synthetic but XL are offering oil and filter for £20 (all be it the current filter is rusted on and unmoveable at the moment).

https://www.xlmoto.co.uk/a9-racing-semi-synthetic-...

Not ideal regarding the radiator in that case but I only plan on keeping the bike for a year or two so it's probably not worth going all out. I don't believe the current radiator would be salvageable in all honesty. It's flaking away around the bottom and possibly around 20% of fins look OK whilst the others flake/crack when attempting to straighten up.

Noticed one of the chain plates has snapped for some reason. Barely done a few miles on it, quite disheartening really as I seem to be spending more time in the garage than on it. Time to research half decent tools, chains and sprockets on a budget...

Don't suppose anyone would know if the trip mileage can be changed to miles rather than km? There's very little online or in the manual so guessing not.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

192 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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Cbull said:
Not ideal regarding the radiator in that case but I only plan on keeping the bike for a year or two so it's probably not worth going all out. I don't believe the current radiator would be salvageable in all honesty. It's flaking away around the bottom and possibly around 20% of fins look OK whilst the others flake/crack when attempting to straighten up.
Entirely your choice. But just for future reference for a re-core, 100% of fins would be removed and replaced. You just need to main structure to be intact, which is often much stronger than the cheap Chinese alternatives.

You can always keep the old radiator and re-furbish if the the knock off one fails of course!

Cbull

4,464 posts

173 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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Prof Prolapse said:
Entirely your choice. But just for future reference for a re-core, 100% of fins would be removed and replaced. You just need to main structure to be intact, which is often much stronger than the cheap Chinese alternatives.

You can always keep the old radiator and re-furbish if the the knock off one fails of course!
Had another thought over it and you're right, suppose it's best to have it fixed up. Saying that, I've just phoned up a couple of companies of which in the end said they didn't bother with Aluminium types and I've Emailed another one. None of which are local which would add complications. Shall see what they say but thanks anyway.

Krikkit

26,621 posts

183 months

Monday 26th June 2017
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OK, this may be a very, very stupid question, but how do you complete a rev-matched downshift while using the front brakes? I can't imagine how I could roll the throttle and brake accurately at the same time, but I can only think it's possible... Is it operating the throttle with your palm to get the blip c.f. heel & toe in a car?

GavC88

121 posts

143 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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My dumb question is more of a dilemma.

Having just passed my DAS, im looking at getting a bike...

Question is, do i pay £3500 and get it from a dealer so i have piece of mind and a warranty/rights to fall back on if it goes wrong...

Or do i pay £2700/£2900 for a very similar bike but get it privately and hope there is nothing wrong with it!

I'm not mechanically minded at all...

shoestring7

6,138 posts

248 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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Krikkit said:
OK, this may be a very, very stupid question, but how do you complete a rev-matched downshift while using the front brakes? I can't imagine how I could roll the throttle and brake accurately at the same time, but I can only think it's possible... Is it operating the throttle with your palm to get the blip c.f. heel & toe in a car?
Yes, this is what you do; brake with fingers, 'blip' with thumb/palm/wrist as you prefer. As with cars, best to practice at stand-still first, then cloth in, then try rev-matching down changes without braking, then bring the two together. You're obviously trying to brake smoothly - its easy to 'blip' both throttle and brakes! Lower speeds/revs will need less of a 'blip', and practice makes perfect - although bikes are pretty forgiving.

SS7

evil len

4,398 posts

271 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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GavC88 said:
My dumb question is more of a dilemma.

Having just passed my DAS, im looking at getting a bike...

Question is, do i pay £3500 and get it from a dealer so i have piece of mind and a warranty/rights to fall back on if it goes wrong...

Or do i pay £2700/£2900 for a very similar bike but get it privately and hope there is nothing wrong with it!

I'm not mechanically minded at all...
At that price point, and if you admit you're not that savvy with the mechanics, I'd be buying from the dealer for a warranty and some level of comeback should the worst happen.

_Fayaz

185 posts

135 months

Saturday 1st July 2017
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Here's one.

Being 23 and sitting on a CBT, I'll be waiting until 24 to do an unrestricted test. Is there anything I can do now so I can pass as soon as I hit 24 or does it all need to be done afterwards (theory, mod 1 and mod 2)?

Cbull

4,464 posts

173 months

Thursday 6th July 2017
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Yet another one, I swear it'll be road worthy eventually. It's only been off the road for a couple of months smile

A chain link previously snapped whilst testing it. Thought it was new'ish but not sure. So, I've just replaced the chain and sprockets myself. Everything seems spot on, Slack is set to 35mm (manual says 34-40mm, same symptoms at 30mm), no Rear wheel wobble, Rear wheel alignment measures good and looks good, no wobble at the front sprocket and torques set correctly. Everything seems to be spot on.

Problem is, there is a shake and judder of the chain and front sprocket which vibrates the bike and sounds a bit damaging/scary. Almost quite violently at times when you put rev on then just before it idles. The video link doesn't do the noise justice but hopefully you get the point. It seems worse the higher the gears.

Initially I thought it was the sprockets not aligned but I don't think it's that. Looking down the top of the chain it seems to jump a little. There is a noise from the front sprocket area about 3rd gear onwards. That kind of tells me it maybe the drive shaft but it's intermittently not constant. Messaged a friend and he's under the impression it maybe because it's not under tension. I rode up and down the road and it seemed OK but there may have been a slight noise but unsure. Scared to ride at speed as it maybe been what snapped the last chain.

Being a total mechanic noob I have no idea (although I'm trying not to be). Hoping it's something obvious to someone else. Any ideas?

https://youtu.be/kRlwsBPKk60

Thanks.