Moto GP 2024

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Yazza54

18,621 posts

182 months

Thursday 9th May
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FourWheelDrift said:
Gigi Dall'igna wanted hybrid engines for 2027.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2024/05/09/motogp/dallign...
F that

Turn7

23,690 posts

222 months

Thursday 9th May
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Yazza54 said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Gigi Dall'igna wanted hybrid engines for 2027.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2024/05/09/motogp/dallign...
F that
Agreed.

Marquezs Stabilisers

1,267 posts

62 months

Thursday 9th May
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FourWheelDrift said:
Gigi Dall'igna wanted hybrid engines for 2027.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2024/05/09/motogp/dallign...
Unpopular opinion but good for him, technologically much more interesting than just an 850cc.

Krikkit

26,577 posts

182 months

Thursday 9th May
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600cc hybrid would've been really interesting. Too expensive though, not like it's a cheap series already, and you don't want to lose anyone...

Looks like good changes though - less aero, less power and simpler machines to peg back the costs and hopefully get Suzuki back in

Zarco

17,969 posts

210 months

Thursday 9th May
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Halfway to Moto E. Does nothing for me.

Yazza54

18,621 posts

182 months

Thursday 9th May
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Zarco said:
Halfway to Moto E. Does nothing for me.
Yea ste, heavy and pointless

stang65

362 posts

138 months

Friday 10th May
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FourWheelDrift said:
Gigi Dall'igna wanted hybrid engines for 2027.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2024/05/09/motogp/dallign...
As Ducati provide the bikes for MotoE and have the best MotoGP bike that would double their technological advantage. He'd have been completely stupid not to try for it, and that's one thing he certainly isn't! Also easy for the other manufacturers to see through it and reject though.

Interesting to see how much innovation Ducati come up with compared to the others. I wonder why the others don't? The only significant thing from the others in the last few years seems to be the Aprilia "ground effect" lower fairing. Maybe it's just the only thing that's been highlighted and the others don't push the regs to get the headlines... e.g. Ducati swingarm ground effect vs tyre cooling device.

Freakuk

3,176 posts

152 months

Friday 10th May
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stang65 said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Gigi Dall'igna wanted hybrid engines for 2027.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2024/05/09/motogp/dallign...
As Ducati provide the bikes for MotoE and have the best MotoGP bike that would double their technological advantage. He'd have been completely stupid not to try for it, and that's one thing he certainly isn't! Also easy for the other manufacturers to see through it and reject though.

Interesting to see how much innovation Ducati come up with compared to the others. I wonder why the others don't? The only significant thing from the others in the last few years seems to be the Aprilia "ground effect" lower fairing. Maybe it's just the only thing that's been highlighted and the others don't push the regs to get the headlines... e.g. Ducati swingarm ground effect vs tyre cooling device.
I think Aprilia are a close second, seemingly with Maverick's new clutch/rear brake device he is using which has helped him no end this year. Everyone is playing with Aero, you would think Ducati and KTM (given the access the Red Bulls R&D and wind tunnel) are making major strides here, again Aprilia are close. It just baffles me why the Japanese are so far behind given they're much larger companies and access to lots of resources, knowledge and data.

aeropilot

34,764 posts

228 months

Friday 10th May
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Freakuk said:
It just baffles me why the Japanese are so far behind given they're much larger companies and access to lots of resources, knowledge and data.
Insular operations with cultural issues.
No different to 4 wheeled motorsport, where its only when Japanese makers handed over running and development of race/rally teams and cars to European based organisations, such as TTE and Prodrive etc.

It was only a matter of time before the Japanese would be left behind once European makers started to take MotoGP seriously.

Yazza54

18,621 posts

182 months

Saturday 11th May
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Just daft from Marc there, he needs to focus on himself and stop trying to play games. Could see he went in way too tight which forced him wide on exit, then asking too much to pull it back which folded the front. What set that in motion was his line through T1... Surprised no one called it apart from Laverty just now watching the replay. Crystal ball stuff but he just needed a clean lap, it didn't need much to cover off 2nd and go through. That's probably fked his weekend now. I expect some desperate riding in the sprint and GP..

Bastianini responded beautifully..



Edited by Yazza54 on Saturday 11th May 10:15

Yazza54

18,621 posts

182 months

Saturday 11th May
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Crash tastic!

egor110

16,924 posts

204 months

Saturday 11th May
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Good result for m.v .

FourWheelDrift

88,650 posts

285 months

Saturday 11th May
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Acosta embarrassing the factory riders again, Quartararo riding above and beyond his bike.

Portofino

4,308 posts

192 months

Saturday 11th May
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Whilst watching the proceedings today was thinking why so many Spanish & Italian riders?

Better weather, sponsors preference or do the UK bike nutcases prefer things like the IOM TT?

Yazza54

18,621 posts

182 months

Saturday 11th May
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Portofino said:
Whilst watching the proceedings today was thinking why so many Spanish & Italian riders?

Better weather, sponsors preference or do the UK bike nutcases prefer things like the IOM TT?
It's pretty much Spanish ran or has been for years. V difficult for anyone UK or USA based to break into.

Yazza54

18,621 posts

182 months

Saturday 11th May
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Can only assume something wrong with peccos bike, I wonder if it was the one he crashed in quali??

Martin did what I expected him to do..

Marc was incredible, but he needs a carbon copy tomorrow... Not sure if it's do able

egor110

16,924 posts

204 months

Saturday 11th May
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Yazza54 said:
Portofino said:
Whilst watching the proceedings today was thinking why so many Spanish & Italian riders?

Better weather, sponsors preference or do the UK bike nutcases prefer things like the IOM TT?
It's pretty much Spanish ran or has been for years. V difficult for anyone UK or USA based to break into.
Looking to the future probably a bit eaiser for the american riders with liberty buying motogp and the american trackhouse team.

Zarco

17,969 posts

210 months

Saturday 11th May
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Yazza54 said:
Portofino said:
Whilst watching the proceedings today was thinking why so many Spanish & Italian riders?

Better weather, sponsors preference or do the UK bike nutcases prefer things like the IOM TT?
It's pretty much Spanish ran or has been for years. V difficult for anyone UK or USA based to break into.
Its just a much more mainstream sport in Spain than the UK, with the corresponding larger amount of sponsorship. There's more grass routes stuff bringing youngsters into the sport, with them riding GP style bikes (there's a Spanish Moto3 championship). Obviously the climate helps, and they have plenty of GP style tracks.

The number of Italian riders is mostly down to Rossi and his VR46 Academy. He put in similar investment as in Spain to get more Italians on the grid. I think only Digi and Bastianini are not part of VR46.

In the UK it's more production based historically which doesn't help, and everyone likes football more than bike racing.

Zarco

17,969 posts

210 months

Saturday 11th May
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MM was like a knife through butter on that first lap. Great stuff.


FourWheelDrift

88,650 posts

285 months

Saturday 11th May
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Yazza54 said:
Can only assume something wrong with peccos bike, I wonder if it was the one he crashed in quali??
I don't think it was the same bike, sounds like he used his spare, but it could be lost in translation - he said “Today, we just had to change the bike from qualifying to be more careful and it was not working like I expected."

https://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2024/05/11/bagnai...

So maybe they were working to get his number 1 bike ready, didn't have enough time to fix it and left too little time to check the number 2 bike was good to go.