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Podie

38,414 posts

144 months

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Wednesday 13th June 2012 quote quote all
FlipFlopGriff said:
Podie said:
Any idea if it would sit on the parcel shelf with a Rollcentre roll bar?
Possibly Pod. Got a TR Lane hooped roll bar and it won't but we have toyed with the idea of bungee ties to the rollbar at a higher level. I think we tried to sit it on an angle behind the rollbar but couldn't squeeze it in. Usually got a big bag on the rear shelf anyway which is a better use of space.
Anyone locally got one you could try?
FFG
Never seen one apart from the website and Johno's photos.

Given the car has hardly been out this year in the dry, its not been an issue. irked

V8 GRF

5,816 posts

79 months

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DonkeyApple said:
PeteGriff said:
If I could get hold of a reasonably priced roof section, I would be very interested in developing a split roof, with the help of our vehicle design guys at work! I would have access to all sorts of seals, machining and suppliers of latches etc! Regards, Pete
I wonder though if part of the issue is that in true Tiv style no apperture is ever exactly the same size/dimensions. Thus, however well the panel was made it will struggle to work properly?
Answering both of the above questions.

Pete, I wouldn't bother going to the expense and trouble, I did exactly that with S&D and after 3 years of development they have stopped doing them for a number of reasons.

The first being they couldn't make money at a price people would pay because as DA has pointed out no two TVRs have the same apperture and even with a mould made from the roof I supplied they had to spend ages making the panel(s) fit each particular car. Some are almost the same but each one has a slightly different profile.

As a one off, done to a panel that already fits your car it's 'doable' as several on here will testify but it's not economical to produce them for customers on a regular basis.

ETA S&D already have a mould for a full panel so it might be worth contacting them for a quote.

I really must stress though having already gone through the whole process already the roof panel is not as simple as you think, it's hollow with two skins and each one differs as does the car.

My recommendation is no matter how expensive you think a 2nd hand one or a new one from S&D is it WILL be considerably cheaper in both cash, time and effort than attempting to make your own. (and make a decent job)



Edited by V8 GRF on Wednesday 13th June 16:11

C15

315 posts

112 months

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V8 GRF said:
To be frank the ones I've seen look awful with lumps and bumps all over the place. I've never seen one with fabric that matches the rear section and they don't seem to fit properly either with gaps at the edges which IMHO isn't acceptable for the money.
I have to say I understand the lumps and bumps / Matching colour issue.. eek
,but if its pcensoredg down and your driving, you wont be looking at it... any other time, it will be off and in the boot???

MPoxon

2,909 posts

42 months

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sgrimshaw said:
V8 GRF said:
To be frank the ones I've seen look awful with lumps and bumps all over the place. I've never seen one with fabric that matches the rear section and they don't seem to fit properly either with gaps at the edges which IMHO isn't acceptable for the money.
You haven't seen very many then.

I know a lot of people who have bought a Surrey Roof and they are all extremely pleased with theirs.

Didn't you spend a lot of time on a split roof solution?

That wouldn't have anything to do with your negative comments would it?
I have the Surrey roof and I am very pleased with it. I do however agree with V8GRF's comments in that the fabric does not match and it doesn't fit as well as the original. I would also add to the list of draw backs that the two bars limit headroom in the car. Yes it is pricey but you do need to consider that these are bespoke products for a limited market and sold in relatively small numbers.

Because my car is stored outside I keep the original roof on it. When I go out I leave the roof at home and travel with the surrey roof in the boot. Also if I go on holiday in the car I will take just the Surrey Roof which saves increases luggage space and saves on the ball ache of having to empty the boot every time you want to put the roof up or down.

I would happily recommend this roof as an addition to the original roof. I went for the Surrey is because at the time the S&D roof was much more expensive in the spec I wanted (leather trimmed on the inside plus separate roof panel bags). Even if I had the S&D split roof I would probably still use the Surrey for touring.

Matthew

V8 GRF

5,816 posts

79 months

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Wednesday 13th June 2012 quote quote all
sgrimshaw said:
V8 GRF said:
To be frank the ones I've seen look awful with lumps and bumps all over the place. I've never seen one with fabric that matches the rear section and they don't seem to fit properly either with gaps at the edges which IMHO isn't acceptable for the money.
You haven't seen very many then.

I know a lot of people who have bought a Surrey Roof and they are all extremely pleased with theirs.

Didn't you spend a lot of time on a split roof solution?

That wouldn't have anything to do with your negative comments would it?
I've seen quite a few thank you and my opinion hasn't changed on the look. I agree they do a good job and are well engineered in some ways but imo the finish of the fibreglass parts leave a lot to be desired and the fit around the edges is poor.

Although as it was based on a Chimaera roof panel it may well be it fits your car better.

Yes I was involved in the S&D split roof and as pointed out it's no longer offered and I didn't benefit financially from it in any way. It was a rather expensive way of getting one for my own use. smile

Edited by V8 GRF on Wednesday 13th June 17:13

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Ant17

2 posts

13 months

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Friday 22nd June 2012 quote quote all
After researching all the forums I bought a second hand one from a scrapyard (didn't have the bottle to cut my original one in half!) then cut it in two with a circular saw following a chalk line drawn down the centre. Bought some new fabric, 2 stainless steel over centre catches (V7 20-101-24 Southco Draw Latches from boat chandlers EC Smith) and it fits really well. I didn't bother with any rubber seal in the middle and in torrential rain recently had 2 drips on the console. It so much easier to lift and store I'm surprised everyone hasn't done it yet!

bomb

1,859 posts

153 months

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Saturday 23rd June 2012 quote quote all
V8 GRF said:
bomb said:
Why not forget cutting your roof in half, and invest in a Surrey Roof ??
To be frank the ones I've seen look awful with lumps and bumps all over the place. I've never seen one with fabric that matches the rear section and they don't seem to fit properly either with gaps at the edges which IMHO isn't acceptable for the money.
OK, that your opinion. I have a Surrey roof and I'm very pleased with it. It has no lumps or bumps, and its proven to be 100% waterproof. I am currently touring Italy,( and later on more extensive parts of Europe), hence for me, its a 'good buy'. I wouldn't be without it. It gets used at night and when its raining. Rest of the time it lives in the boot, on top of my wifes luggage.

You pays your money, and you takes your choice.

PeteGriff

450 posts

26 months

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Sunday 24th June 2012 quote quote all
Ant17 said:
After researching all the forums I bought a second hand one from a scrapyard (didn't have the bottle to cut my original one in half!) then cut it in two with a circular saw following a chalk line drawn down the centre. Bought some new fabric, 2 stainless steel over centre catches (V7 20-101-24 Southco Draw Latches from boat chandlers EC Smith) and it fits really well. I didn't bother with any rubber seal in the middle and in torrential rain recently had 2 drips on the console. It so much easier to lift and store I'm surprised everyone hasn't done it yet!
Hi Ant, do you mind advising how much you paid for the spare targa roof from the scrapyard? I am very interested in having a play around with a split roof concept I have in mind! Also where did you get it? Many thanks, Pete

V8BJC

93 posts

135 months

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Monday 25th June 2012 quote quote all
Steve, just leave the 'Girlie' at home and we will do our own cooking, beer fetching etc

No need for roof adaption

Job done

biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin

PS, roofs are for lightweights!


SSPPGG

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1,103 posts

71 months

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V8BJC said:
Steve, just leave the 'Girlie' at home and we will do our own cooking, beer fetching etc

No need for roof adaption

Job done

biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin

PS, roofs are for lightweights!
lightweights eh....

i seem to remember my youngest son drinking you under the table in Germany that trip...pretty sure my daughter could too.

( do you also remember getting soaked that weekend? I remember I was in the griff, and I didnt!).









Barreti

5,173 posts

106 months

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Monday 25th June 2012 quote quote all
PeteGriff said:
Hi Ant, do you mind advising how much you paid for the spare targa roof from the scrapyard? I am very interested in having a play around with a split roof concept I have in mind! Also where did you get it? Many thanks, Pete
You can occasionally find them on the bay of E for £100 or there abouts.

SSPPGG

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1,103 posts

71 months

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Monday 25th June 2012 quote quote all
breaker up north east has them..bare glass at 200...if you dare


SSPPGG

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1,103 posts

71 months

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Monday 25th June 2012 quote quote all
SSPPGG said:
breaker up north east has them..bare glass at 200...if you dare


but no need for me now! roof needed a new cover so I thought what the hell, took 20 mins, will add dowels, clips etc when resin infill in the front and rear parts is dry

Barreti

5,173 posts

106 months

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Top man SSPPGG
No more faffing about trying to get the roof in and out for you my friend.
Pile all the luggage in and sit the roof on top.
Job done thumbup

V8BJC

93 posts

135 months

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Monday 25th June 2012 quote quote all
SSPPGG said:
lightweights eh....

i seem to remember my youngest son drinking you under the table in Germany that trip...pretty sure my daughter could too.

( do you also remember getting soaked that weekend? I remember I was in the griff, and I didnt!).
Hahaha. Sadly I do remember.

jacjac

135 posts

93 months

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Tuesday 26th June 2012 quote quote all
Follow the DIY roof split thread to 'my 1 hour roof split ''literally''
I followed Chris52's instructions and as the pics show it all worked out very nicely. I filled the gap in the roof layers with fibreglass resin in a couple of goes. Two years on and I'm very happy that I took a brave pill and put saw to roof!! That was the hardest bit. There is so much more room in the boot now. I had a Leven roof bag that I could not fit in the boot on the roof because space was that tight - so I cut that in half too and it works perfectly! Just take your time - you will be glad you did.

PVCGriff

82 posts

83 months

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Tuesday 26th June 2012 quote quote all
jacjac said:
Follow the DIY roof split thread to 'my 1 hour roof split ''literally''
I followed Chris52's instructions and as the pics show it all worked out very nicely. I filled the gap in the roof layers with fibreglass resin in a couple of goes. Two years on and I'm very happy that I took a brave pill and put saw to roof!! That was the hardest bit. There is so much more room in the boot now. I had a Leven roof bag that I could not fit in the boot on the roof because space was that tight - so I cut that in half too and it works perfectly! Just take your time - you will be glad you did.
Hear, hear. I too followed Chris52's guide and am very happy with the result. The roof rarely goes on but it is reassuring to know that it's in the boot if needed.

ChimpofDarkness

3,235 posts

48 months

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Tuesday 26th June 2012 quote quote all
PVCGriff said:
jacjac said:
Follow the DIY roof split thread to 'my 1 hour roof split ''literally''
I followed Chris52's instructions and as the pics show it all worked out very nicely. I filled the gap in the roof layers with fibreglass resin in a couple of goes. Two years on and I'm very happy that I took a brave pill and put saw to roof!! That was the hardest bit. There is so much more room in the boot now. I had a Leven roof bag that I could not fit in the boot on the roof because space was that tight - so I cut that in half too and it works perfectly! Just take your time - you will be glad you did.
Hear, hear. I too followed Chris52's guide and am very happy with the result. The roof rarely goes on but it is reassuring to know that it's in the boot if needed.
Hi SSPPGG, PVCGriff & jacjac could one of you tell me if one half of your split roof would fit under the boot lid?

I'm thinking, open the boot and one half of the roof lifts away from the luggage with it.

That leaves more options in where to locate the second half in the boot space when caring luggage..

Would it work?

Thanks, Dave.

PS: Not sure if a Chimp boot lid is bigger than a Griff one?


Edited by ChimpofDarkness on Tuesday 26th June 20:09

SSPPGG

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ChimpofDarkness said:
Hi SSPPGG, PVCGriff & jacjac could one of you tell me if one half of your split roof would fit under the boot lid?

I'm thinking, open the boot and one half of the roof lifts away from the luggage with it.

That leaves more options in where to locate the second half in the boot space when caring luggage..

Would it work?

Thanks, Dave.

PS: Not sure if a Chimp boot lid is bigger than a Griff one?


Edited by ChimpofDarkness on Tuesday 26th June 20:09
griff lid is too small.....

TVR Beaver

2,105 posts

49 months

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One half will however sit on top of a full boot if you tuck the front edge under the lip and use the curve bit to follow the lid shape ... the other one will tuck around the tank smile thats if you use the 'cut it in half' method as we did .. just don't add too much to it in lips / catches etc.. or if you do, just add them on one half...
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