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Popolou
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76 months
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ArsE92 said: I started this thread, and I know at least 5 guys at work have indulged too  Ah saweet, didn't notice the name change. Here's one to you  Pops
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Brother D
841 posts
45 months
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I received the cheque in the post today - cheers everyone for the heads up!
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collateral
6,840 posts
87 months
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LocoBlade said: Ebuyer don't give you a hard copy invoice so pretty sure I just sent a printout of the invoice from my Ebuyer Profile along with the form on the Hp website obviously. Cheers for that
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ArsE92
Original Poster
16,945 posts
56 months
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Popolou said: ArsE92 said: I started this thread, and I know at least 5 guys at work have indulged too Ah saweet, didn't notice the name change. Here's one to you Pops I've not had a beer this year - don't tempt me!
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page3
2,951 posts
120 months
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Hi all.
Just ordered one of these to replace my QNAP NAS. Due Friday.
A few questions if I may...
I'm planning on running FreeNAS and going from there. (ultimately, I want NAS, Media serving, Bit-torrent and MRTG). I have 2 x 1.5Tb drives I'm going to take out my QNAP.
1. I believe FreeNAS 7 is the preferred version for the HP in base configuration?
2. How do I install it?! IE: Is it best to run from CD, or USB or install to HD? Documentation doesn't make clear when is the 'best' method.
3. Do I need any other hardware? ie: Do I need a CD drive (and cables?) to install FreeNAS. Again documentation isn't clear. It appears I either need a CD drive (to install to HDD) but not if I run from USB stick. But then it seems I need a CD drive to create the USB stick initially. My only current writeable drive is in my (Intel) iMac which I'm not sure will work for this.
4. If I need a CD drive, would a (cheap) external USB drive do the job and be simpler?
Sorry if this all sounds a bit obvious. My UNIX skills are fine, but I could do with a bit of direction. Thanks.
Edited to add: It seems the server has an internal USB port and I read online that installing from CD image to USB stick and running from that works well.
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JonRB
39,385 posts
141 months
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page3 said: 1. I believe FreeNAS 7 is the preferred version for the HP in base configuration?
2. How do I install it?! IE: Is it best to run from CD, or USB or install to HD? Documentation doesn't make clear when is the 'best' method.
3. Do I need any other hardware? ie: Do I need a CD drive (and cables?) to install FreeNAS. Again documentation isn't clear. It appears I either need a CD drive (to install to HDD) but not if I run from USB stick. But then it seems I need a CD drive to create the USB stick initially. My only current writeable drive is in my (Intel) iMac which I'm not sure will work for this.
4. If I need a CD drive, would a (cheap) external USB drive do the job and be simpler? 1. I'm running FreeNAS 8 (64-bit) quite happily on mine. Although I have heard that 7 is more versatile as there was a major architecture change in 8 (due to the underlying FreeBSD OS) which means some things like, say, SlimServer run on 7 but not 8. 2. The Microserver has an internal USB connector, so on mine I put a USB stick in there and run it from that. The HDDs are solely used for storage and not the OS 3. FreeNAS says you should install from a CD, but there are ways round this. When I installed mine, I installed a vanilla 32-bit Intel FreeNAS install onto the aforementioned USB stick on a different computer that did have a CD drive, put it back in the Microserver, booted it up, and then used the over-the-wire update facility to then install the 64-bit AMD version, which worked fine for me. Your mileage may vary. 4. I believe this should work as the BIOS on the Microserver does allow boot from USB, but I haven't tried it due to what I did in (3) above. Hope that helps
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page3
2,951 posts
120 months
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JonRB said: 1. I'm running FreeNAS 8 (64-bit) quite happily on mine. Although I have heard that 7 is more versatile as there was a major architecture change in 8 (due to the underlying FreeBSD OS) which means some things like, say, SlimServer run on 7 but not 8.
2. The Microserver has an internal USB connector, so on mine I put a USB stick in there and run it from that. The HDDs are solely used for storage and not the OS
3. FreeNAS says you should install from a CD, but there are ways round this. When I installed mine, I installed a vanilla 32-bit Intel FreeNAS install onto the aforementioned USB stick on a different computer that did have a CD drive, put it back in the Microserver, booted it up, and then used the over-the-wire update facility to then install the 64-bit AMD version, which worked fine for me. Your mileage may vary.
4. I believe this should work as the BIOS on the Microserver does allow boot from USB, but I haven't tried it due to what I did in (3) above.
Hope that helps Yes. Very very useful. Thanks.
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page3
2,951 posts
120 months
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Um, sorry another question:
UnRaid or FreeNAS? Was going with the latter, but the former seems to get good write-ups.
I initially want to start with a single drive, get it all configured and then add a second drive and set-up RAID. Not sure if FreeNAS will let me do this. I want to do it this way because I'm moving from a QNAP so have two drives with data. I want to keep one temporally 'just in case'. Of course, I have a backup too.
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thetapeworm
4,703 posts
108 months
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I need a cheap 64-bit server to do some self-training stuff - does anyone know where the cheapest place to buy one of these is at the moment?
£149.98 (inc the £100 cashback) seems to be the cheapest I can see for the N40L with 2GB (box.co.uk) - should I be shopping elsewhere?
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JonRB
39,385 posts
141 months
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I've got no experience with UnRaid
One thing I do know about FreeNAS though is you can't appear to add volumes to a set or extend a set. Not that I can see anyway. Which would be a major problem for what you're wanting to do.
The reason I know this is that I was considering swapping out my 4 x 500Gb drives for 4 x 2Tb ones just before the price of HDDs went through the roof, and it was looking like I would have to move the data off onto an external drive and re-create the RAID set as it wasn't going to let me just swap them (I was hoping to swap them one at a time and have the RAID repair itself each time until all 4 were swapped)
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page3
2,951 posts
120 months
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JonRB said: One thing I do know about FreeNAS though is you can't appear to add volumes to a set or extend a set. Looks like I'm better off using both drives and restoring data from my backup, which currently claims to have a further 21 hours remaining! The bigger pain is going to be my iTunes library, that sits on the NAS. Moving it across won't work unless the paths are identical, unless I manually edit the library file which is a bore. Looking forward to it. Messing around on QNAP/ReadyNAS stuff is fun, but ultimately limited as the processor power and RAM is so limited.
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LocoBlade
4,686 posts
125 months
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page3 said: The bigger pain is going to be my iTunes library, that sits on the NAS. Moving it across won't work unless the paths are identical, unless I manually edit the library file which is a bore. When you run iTunes just hold down Shift as you click the icon to open it and you get an option to chose an alternative library. I used this when I moved from WHS 1 to WHS 2011 with a different server name and it worked fine. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1589
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page3
2,951 posts
120 months
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If I want to pop in a SATA DVD drive, I know I'll need a molex/sata power adapter, but do I need a sata cable too, or does it come with one? Thanks.
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Frik
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112 months
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lestag
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145 months
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thetapeworm said: I need a cheap 64-bit server to do some self-training stuff - does anyone know where the cheapest place to buy one of these is at the moment?
£149.98 (inc the £100 cashback) seems to be the cheapest I can see for the N40L with 2GB (box.co.uk) - should I be shopping elsewhere? http://www.idealo.co.uk/compare/2951718/hewlett-packard-hp-server-micro-g7-n40l-658553-421.html another option? http://www.ebuyer.com/219937-hp-proliant-ml110-g6-...
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page3
2,951 posts
120 months
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Frik said: No SATA cable with it. Thanks.
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theboyfold
8,357 posts
95 months
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Holy thread bump Batman!
I have a Microserver at home and it's running Windows Home Server quite happily at the moment. However, due to an update in OSX Lion my Timemachine backups don't work anymore.
What's this server like for running virtual machines? I know you can pop 8gb of RAM in, but I'm not sure the CPU is up to much. I'd like to be able to run Apple OSX server, plus either FreeNAS or WHS as VMs. Would this be possible on such a weak CPU?
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MagicalTrevor
4,781 posts
98 months
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You can run a couple of VMs on there but don't expect blazing performance though. The bottleneck is the CPU.
I don't know how well OSX would run, I've never virtualised OSX. Also, not sure If it would like the AMD processor as its very hardware fussy. I may be wrong of course.
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lestag
3,786 posts
145 months
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theboyfold said: Holy thread bump Batman!
I have a Microserver at home and it's running Windows Home Server quite happily at the moment. However, due to an update in OSX Lion my Timemachine backups don't work anymore.
What's this server like for running virtual machines? I know you can pop 8gb of RAM in, but I'm not sure the CPU is up to much. I'd like to be able to run Apple OSX server, plus either FreeNAS or WHS as VMs. Would this be possible on such a weak CPU? Im using it with esxi5 8gb rm and a couple of 2tb drives mirrored with a HP410 array controller currently running an xp vm (torrent) and run 3 w2008k servers on it for evaluation/training purposes. Only issue i have is with disk speed (2MB/s vs 20-30 it "should be") waiting on 256MB cache for array conttoller to see if it makes any difference. Could be purely an issue with the type of sata disks . So will try another make of disk. If you want raid on esx you will need to purchase a separate raid controller (about 110 quid second hand)
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172ff
1,400 posts
64 months
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That reminds me. I still haven't had the cheque for mine. Ordered it on the 17th December.
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