Splitting ball

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sparkybean

Original Poster:

221 posts

191 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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.. joints, specifically removing a lower ball joint from the upright.

Any ideas on the best ways to go about it? I have a joint splitter (looks similar to a tuning fork) but all it seems to do is make a lot of noise when smacked with the hammer or tear the boot. I only have axle stands to work on so room is limited.

Thanks.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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The wedge ball joint splitting tools are useless IME, unless your aim is to split the rubber gaiter. You tend to need a scissors type splitter to get these undone.

What car is it, or more specifically is the balljoint attached to or integral with the end of the wishbone (most common) or part of the upright?


HustleRussell

24,776 posts

161 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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I find the fork type ones do work but you should lever the balljoint firmly apart at the same time

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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Get two hammers, 1 big one, 1 smaller one.

Hold the big hammer directly against the metal of the upright inline with the middle of the ball joint taper. Hit the otherside of the upright inline with the first hammer. The shock will "ring" between the hammers, and the taper will just fall out!


Works every time (as long as you can get access to the taper for a hammer swing). for "split" taper joints on which a bolt is used to nip up the joint, generally using a wedge to open the joint it more effective.


TallPaul

1,517 posts

259 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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v46m4n

150 posts

153 months

Saturday 17th March 2012
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HustleRussell said:
I find the fork type ones do work but you should lever the balljoint firmly apart at the same time
as above but get someone with a long bar to lever lower arm fron upright

HustleRussell

24,776 posts

161 months

Saturday 17th March 2012
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The two hammers trick- it does work, but many people can't do it. It is a 'knack' for sure.

sparkybean

Original Poster:

221 posts

191 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Max_Torque said:
and the taper will just fall out!
I read that with some cynicism, and it took a few attempts manoeuvring the hammers into the right place, but all went exactly as you wrote. Fantastic smile

I'll look at getting a scissor type splitter anyway, as it looks very effective for tight spots.

Thanks all, job jobbed biggrin

steve_bmw

1,590 posts

176 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Two hammers every time, used this method since my dad showed me back in 1993 when doing my mini ballpoints, which you do a lot.

Never struggled to get a ball joint off even on some big BMW ones.


yorkshirephil

194 posts

160 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Dont bother ball joint splitters they are a waste of time and never needed, just get a decent sized hammer and keep hitting the housing that the taper goes into, the ball joint will just pop out.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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yorkshirephil said:
Dont bother ball joint splitters they are a waste of time and never needed, just get a decent sized hammer and keep hitting the housing that the taper goes into, the ball joint will just pop out.
Using a single hammer is a recipe for breaking or bending something in many cases, and simply won't work at all in others. The whole point of using two hammers is to constrain most of the force of the blow within the tapered housing.

yorkshirephil

194 posts

160 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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I have been a mechanic for 20 years and never had a problem with this method yet.
Mr2Mike said:
Using a single hammer is a recipe for breaking or bending something in many cases, and simply won't work at all in others. The whole point of using two hammers is to constrain most of the force of the blow within the tapered housing.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Monday 19th March 2012
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yorkshirephil said:
I have been a mechanic for 20 years and never had a problem with this method yet.
Mr2Mike said:
I've seen a steering arm with considerably increased Ackerman angle from someone attempting to do just this.