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Debaser
1,176 posts
130 months
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Arj256 said: The Seiko are fragile when subjected to knocks, it contaminates the main spring which ruins the time keeping.
Worth bearing in mind if your going to be rough with it.
There not as tough as there made out to be.. How tough do Seiko make it out to be?
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r1ch
2,180 posts
65 months
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I prefer the monster myself. Its a well made watch, keeps great time, and it feels hard wearing. I have a black on a rubber strap and i love it as much now as i did when i first got it.
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KP328
634 posts
64 months
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 I think the monster looks good,but i never get around to wearing it, G-Shocks all the way !
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eccles
7,701 posts
91 months
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Arj256 said: The Seiko are fragile when subjected to knocks, it contaminates the main spring which ruins the time keeping.
Worth bearing in mind if your going to be rough with it.
There not as tough as there made out to be.. Rubbish. I wear a Seiko 5 as a my work watch and it puts up with all sorts of abuse and knocks. I use rivet guns, hammers beating metal and tinker with cars wearing it and it's not missed a beat.
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Civpilot
4,731 posts
109 months
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eccles said: Arj256 said: The Seiko are fragile when subjected to knocks, it contaminates the main spring which ruins the time keeping.
Worth bearing in mind if your going to be rough with it.
There not as tough as there made out to be.. Rubbish. I wear a Seiko 5 as a my work watch and it puts up with all sorts of abuse and knocks. I use rivet guns, hammers beating metal and tinker with cars wearing it and it's not missed a beat. Have to agree with Eccles, they are very tough.... just not as tough as a G-Shock (but lets be honest here, no watch is, even the Timex "Ironman" watches are made of glass compared to G's)
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Arun_D
1,669 posts
64 months
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Can't really see why a Monster wouldn't survive a similar paint dunk?
Really like my Monster, the only think I'd like is to be able to manually wind it via the crown to get it going, but of course a few shakes does the trick.
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Arun_D
1,669 posts
64 months
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Ok, I'll get the Dulux....you provide the Monster  I agree with your points, I think my argument was based around the Monster not having any buttons to worry about, and thinking the crown would provide a robust enough seal to paint, as well as water. Think you're right about the bezel though, but still confident you'll still have a functional movement with the possibility of a slightly gummed up bezel. Yes..two different watches. The PH answer is to have both (reminds me to stick a battery in my G-shock, which I havn't worn for years)
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jimmyjimjim
2,752 posts
107 months
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Civpilot said: If you managed to break a G whilst wearing it then congratulations..... You just broke your wrist ;-)
Oddly enough, this reminded me of an incident where this was completely true. My dad used to work at the BofE, and had a friend in the bullion department. There was a breakdown in the handling machinery, and his friend had a gold bar dropped on his wrist from about a metre up. Fortunately he was wearing a G-shock(I think)which was completely destroyed, but this saved his hand. It did break his wrist pretty damn thoroughly, though! Apparently the staff at the local hospital called BS on the cause of the accident and took some persuading it was true.
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Arj256
59 posts
56 months
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Debaser said: How tough do Seiko make it out to be? Seiko don't mention its toughness as one of its sales points, but I have noticed the forums hype its toughness. eccles said: Rubbish. I wear a Seiko 5 as a my work watch and it puts up with all sorts of abuse and knocks. I use rivet guns, hammers beating metal and tinker with cars wearing it and it's not missed a beat. Well, I have had my Monster repaired once after either a vibration/knock incident ruined its timing. Speaking to the watch repairer, he said its common for that to happen, due to the way the mechanism is mounted inside the housing. That lasted about 6 months and has broken again after a knock, with the same symptom of running very fast after, so hardly reliable or tough. Funnily my Seiko 5 has proven far more reliable than the Monster The Monster is a good watch when working though.
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IS200RJR
741 posts
111 months
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how can you compare an auto with a mech ?
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CardShark
2,132 posts
48 months
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Arj256 said: Debaser said: How tough do Seiko make it out to be? Seiko don't mention its toughness as one of its sales points, but I have noticed the forums hype its toughness. eccles said: Rubbish. I wear a Seiko 5 as a my work watch and it puts up with all sorts of abuse and knocks. I use rivet guns, hammers beating metal and tinker with cars wearing it and it's not missed a beat. Well, I have had my Monster repaired once after either a vibration/knock incident ruined its timing. Speaking to the watch repairer, he said its common for that to happen, due to the way the mechanism is mounted inside the housing. That lasted about 6 months and has broken again after a knock, with the same symptom of running very fast after, so hardly reliable or tough. Funnily my Seiko 5 has proven far more reliable than the Monster The Monster is a good watch when working though. Your 5 probably has exactly the same movement in it as your Monster.... 7s26 movements are fitted in many of Seiko's lower priced watches and the 7s36 is barely any different.
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eccles
7,701 posts
91 months
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IS200RJR said: how can you compare an auto with a mech ?  They are both mechanical.....
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Debaser
1,176 posts
130 months
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Arj256 said: Seiko don't mention its toughness as one of its sales points, but I have noticed the forums hype its toughness. True, they do get hyped a lot. I think the Monster is a great watch but a G Shock will be able to put up with a lot more without breaking.
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sneijder
4,856 posts
103 months
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It's a non discussion.
An automatic watch is full of moving parts, it has to move to work. No inabloc movement can withstand the vibration or general cackhandedness that a digital watch with no moving parts can.
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delays
367 posts
84 months
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Civpilot said: If you managed to break a G whilst wearing it then congratulations..... You just broke your wrist ;-)
And they are pretty easy to sort, I had an old one (6900) with a duff movement found at a car boot... Casio sorted a new movement for about £29 including shipping. Fitted it myself in a couple of minutes.
Love my black monster but for durability there is simply no contest... G-Shock's are head and shoulders above all the competition on that score. Learn something new every day!
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cst
Original Poster
267 posts
53 months
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Thanks for all your opinions, I appreciate that a g is going to take more abusive I wasnt trying to compare just their durability but as an all rounder but by all your contributions I think I'm going to get a g-shock first as I think that will cope with all the day to day tasks and add a seiko later on or two!!
Thanks again
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Adam B
6,836 posts
123 months
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Eighteeteewhy said: After the nuclear war, all that will be left is cockroaches and G-Shocks. No sure which of the two is more depressing 
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Disastrous
3,589 posts
86 months
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Is there anywhere that shows the whole monster range lined up? Creation seems to have a few, but Seiko UK don't seem to mention it on there site so wondered if there was somewhere you can see "all the options", as it were?
I quite fancy one, despite having a G and another Seiko diver.
O/T but my diver stopped my wrist being broken in a motorbike accident. Hard to explain but it was one of the ones with the huge thick bracelet pins. Anyway, it was under a jacket and a thick glove and afterwards when I removed the jacket, the watch fell out with a snapped pin. No marks to the watch or my wrist so unsure of what happened but the doctors were amazed, as was the jeweller who repaired it!
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IS200RJR
741 posts
111 months
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eccles said: IS200RJR said: how can you compare an auto with a mech ? They are both mechanical..... Sorry I meant quartz with an auto too many beers last night must stay away from laptop. all I meant was there must be so much less that could go wrong with a quartz,
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eccles
7,701 posts
91 months
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IS200RJR said: eccles said: IS200RJR said: how can you compare an auto with a mech ? They are both mechanical..... Sorry I meant quartz with an auto too many beers last night must stay away from laptop. all I meant was there must be so much less that could go wrong with a quartz, Exactly, one is a machine with many moving parts, mostly metal, and one is a machine with very few moving parts, so comparing the two in that respect is a little silly.
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