RE: Caterham launches 485 Final Editions for Europe

RE: Caterham launches 485 Final Editions for Europe

Friday 10th May

Caterham launches 485 Final Editions for Europe

Caterham is making way for new products in Europe; time to sign off a much loved 7 flagship


The origin story of the Seven 485 was always a heartening one. Caterham’s European and Japanese customers loved 7s, but were really after something a bit more… silly. Denied the supercharged screamers we get, the continental range didn’t really have an appropriate flagship. So, the customer always being right and all that, Caterham made one. And probably made a few UK customers jealous in the process. The 485 launched just over a decade ago (including a Nurburgring onboard as part of the PR), complete with 240hp from the 2.0-litre Duratec, an 8,500rpm redline, a Sport button and a 525kg kerbweight. All with Euro 6 compliance. No wonder they were popular.

But now, after a decade on sale, production of the 485 is coming to an end as Caterham will introduce ‘new products in our European line-up’. To mark the occasion, a Final Edition is going into production, with 60 standard cars (in regular or large chassis) and 25 CSR-spec examples to be made. There’s also going to be 10 FEs for Japan. All of them will come with Final Edition embroidery on sports seats, a carbon dash, a numbered plaque, black badges and black stripes. 

Caterham says that the Final Edition ‘showcases the very best specification available on the product while continuing to allow customers to customise a vehicle to their own taste’, so there will be five colour options available as well as the usual range of Seven options. This is Verdes Emes, with Golden Saffron, Viper Blue, Volcano Red and Viola Parsifae also offered. Extras are as might be expected and include carbon goodies, better dampers, a proper roll cage, quick-release wheels and lowered floors. Mechanically it’s as per previous 485s, with 228hp, 151lb ft and a six-speed manual. 

Olivier Jouanne, European Territory Manager for Caterham, said: “Revealing our Seven 485 Final Edition is a bittersweet moment for us and our customers. On the one hand it marks the end of an era for one of our most iconic European models. On the other, with only a limited number available, customers now have the possibility to own the last highest-revving, naturally aspirated Seven to ever be produced, giving them the chance to drive a piece of Caterham history.

“It’s been an incredible decade for the 485, which was an incredibly popular product in Europe, particularly our DACH markets. For now, we are looking ahead to the additional production and engineering capacity, that will give us the space to focus on expanding our European product offering.”

For PHers on the continent, both versions of the Final Edition are on sale now, priced from €67,495, or £58k at current rates. And if Caterham news (as well as the weather) has you searching for a Seven, PH - of course - has you covered. A 420 is probably as close as we get here to a 485, and this R - with a dry sump, lightweight flywheel and six-speed - ought to be brilliant fun. 


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GTRene

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nice, I wonder what they will come with next, would be nice to see their new model Caterham, that EV thing, comes also with a at least 4 cyll engine, the car screams give me a fast great sounding (ok then V6 or V8) petrol engine.


911Spanker

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17 months

Friday 10th May
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Caterhams are really expensive these days. Surely a used £20k Seven provides 99% of the thrills (particularly on road).

hu8742

254 posts

126 months

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Can't think of many more fun cars to drive through a twisty mountain pass in the summer sun.

SteveKTMer

785 posts

32 months

Friday 10th May
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GTRene said:
nice, I wonder what they will come with next, would be nice to see their new model Caterham, that EV thing, comes also with a at least 4 cyll engine, the car screams give me a fast great sounding (ok then V6 or V8) petrol engine.

I've missed this somehow, it absolutely stunning ! How can Caterham design this when other manufacturers with a lot more cash come out with hideous, badly designed bits of tat that are only fit for Max Power, if you're of a certain age ? Apart from the Alpine 110 and T33, this Caterham must rate as probably one of the best looking cars of the past few years. Touches of the 288 about it, shame it doesn't have a lightweight V6.

cerb4.5lee

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181 months

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911Spanker said:
Caterhams are really expensive these days. Surely a used £20k Seven provides 99% of the thrills (particularly on road).
They are expensive now I agree. They are great fun no doubt, but you don't really get a lot of actual "car" for the money these days as you say though. I went in the direction of older and used with mine too, and I'm not entirely sure if I'd want to pay more than £30k for one really. Each to their own of course though.

kambites

67,657 posts

222 months

Friday 10th May
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GTRene said:
nice, I wonder what they will come with next, would be nice to see their new model Caterham, that EV thing, comes also with a at least 4 cyll engine, the car screams give me a fast great sounding (ok then V6 or V8) petrol engine.

If you look at the layout of the underlying platform of the Project V, there's no way they're fitting an internal combustion engine into it. There isn't space in the front, and whilst they could perhaps ditch the back seat to put an engine across the back Elise-style, there's not really anything to mount it to or any way to cool it.

GTRene

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kambites said:
GTRene said:
nice, I wonder what they will come with next, would be nice to see their new model Caterham, that EV thing, comes also with a at least 4 cyll engine, the car screams give me a fast great sounding (ok then V6 or V8) petrol engine.

If you look at the layout of the underlying platform of the Project V, there's no way they're fitting an internal combustion engine into it.
I do see a possibility for a mid transverse engine layout, I think its possible.

kambites

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There's no rear-subframe to mount it to and the monocoque isn't designed to have any stress-points more than about four inches off the level of the floor pan. It might be possible, but it would be a horrible Frankenstein of a vehicle!

ETA; There's an interview with one of the the technical leads of the project on Youtube somewhere, and he is very clear that what they've achieved in terms of weight and dimensions wouldn't be possible on a product that wasn't designed to be EV and EV alone.

Edited by kambites on Friday 10th May 16:40

GTRene

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kambites said:
There's no rear-subframe to mount it to and the monocoque isn't designed to have any stress-points more than about four inches off the level of the floor pan. It might be possible, but it would be a horrible Frankenstein of a vehicle!

ETA; There's an interview with one of the the technical leads of the project on Youtube somewhere, and he is very clear that what they've achieved in terms of weight and dimensions wouldn't be possible on a product that wasn't designed to be EV and EV alone.

Edited by kambites on Friday 10th May 16:40
hm, sad to hear/read, I was hoping they also created it with a petrol engine in mind, so they would not have to change to much to make it doable, say as in a sort multi platvorm.

Its such a nice shaped car, would have been on my bucketlist if it not was EV, I still follow it though hehe

cerb4.5lee

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181 months

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I know that I'm like a broken record, but you know the future isn't all that bright when even Caterham decide to go EV. Of course I realise that they don't really have a choice though sadly, but somebody stop the planet please...because I want to get off! hehe

kambites

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If it ever gets released, I'm sure some American will somehow manage to hack and shoehorn an LS V8 into the thing! driving

kambites

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cerb4.5lee said:
... but somebody stop the planet please...because I want to get off! hehe
I've been on that bandwagon ever since they started putting bloody turbos in everything!

cerb4.5lee

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181 months

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kambites said:
cerb4.5lee said:
... but somebody stop the planet please...because I want to get off! hehe
I've been on that bandwagon ever since they started putting bloody turbos in everything!
I can live with a turbo or two because they're still bolted to an engine/exhaust...however EVs on the other hand though! grumpy

kambites

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Very personal thing. Give me an EV over a turbo in a fun car any day, although I'd rather have neither!

Familymad

697 posts

218 months

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Is that a Jaguar SVO colour? Looks great

Common Porpoise

699 posts

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Friday 10th May
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GTRene said:
kambites said:
GTRene said:
nice, I wonder what they will come with next, would be nice to see their new model Caterham, that EV thing, comes also with a at least 4 cyll engine, the car screams give me a fast great sounding (ok then V6 or V8) petrol engine.

If you look at the layout of the underlying platform of the Project V, there's no way they're fitting an internal combustion engine into it.
I do see a possibility for a mid transverse engine layout, I think its possible.
Design by Janarelly as a pure EV platform I believe . Concept car was built by Italdesign.

AmazingGrace

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5 months

Friday 10th May
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Great colour.

I had a Caterham years back - a 1990 xflow super sprint.
Loved it, my only wheels for 18 months, in rain, sun or snow.

Traded it in for a wife who I love equally (ssshhh)


But what’s CSR? Back in the day it was a specific model but now it seems an option.
Confused, but in a good way

samoht

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I'd not heard of the 'DACH' markets, but apparently it refers to Germany, Austria and Switzerland.

It's not entirely clear but my understanding here is the specific 485 model is being retired, but other Caterhams continue in continental Europe and Japan.

Anyone know why the supercharged cars can't be sold in those markets?


stavr0ss

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129 months

Friday 10th May
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CSR is the chassis with pushrod front suspension and (I think) properly independent rear suspension. Why Europe got to keep it while we’ve been denied it since the cosworth powered csr ceased production is beyond me - peak caterham for me with or without the cossie- look for the Chris Harris video on it.

Cryssys

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911Spanker said:
Caterhams are really expensive these days. Surely a used £20k Seven provides 99% of the thrills (particularly on road).
They are expensive. I'm thinking about selling my M3 and I've been looking at them as possible replacement as I fancy doing a few track days.
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Entry level Caterhams are £15K, whilst £20K will get you something decent they're still more than I was expecting.