Have you Scrapped a Car via ULEZ Scheme?
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Hi,
Has anyone here actually scrapped a car via the ULEZ scheme and been paid? Is there any advice that you’d give to someone starting out on the process?
The application is for the mother. Prices for her car on here and Ebay suggest £1,500 max, whereas she should get £2,000 from the scrappage scheme (please correct me if I am missing something?).
She’s had enough of paying £12.50 to leave the drive and there is no talking her out of this. Besides which, we all know that scrapping a 2001 Honda with 60K miles is the right way to protect the environment
Thank you in advance!
Has anyone here actually scrapped a car via the ULEZ scheme and been paid? Is there any advice that you’d give to someone starting out on the process?
The application is for the mother. Prices for her car on here and Ebay suggest £1,500 max, whereas she should get £2,000 from the scrappage scheme (please correct me if I am missing something?).
She’s had enough of paying £12.50 to leave the drive and there is no talking her out of this. Besides which, we all know that scrapping a 2001 Honda with 60K miles is the right way to protect the environment
Thank you in advance!
Do you have experience? Was it a bureaucratic nightmare?
She'll be lucky to get £1,500 for a 2001 1.7 Civic Coupe with 60K on the clock. She lives on the other side of London to me, and it won't be easy for me to sell it for her as I live in an area that has tight parking restrictions. She's feeling stressed out by the Ulez and I just want the least hassle for her.
The MOT comes up on 12th of Jan, and car needs an MOT to be eligible for scrap scheme.
60K on a Honda is barely run in. I don't feel good about junking a car like that, but I am not going to get into an argument with her over it. It's her decision and it's what she wants. If the scheme is a nightmare, please let me know why?
Thanks
She'll be lucky to get £1,500 for a 2001 1.7 Civic Coupe with 60K on the clock. She lives on the other side of London to me, and it won't be easy for me to sell it for her as I live in an area that has tight parking restrictions. She's feeling stressed out by the Ulez and I just want the least hassle for her.
The MOT comes up on 12th of Jan, and car needs an MOT to be eligible for scrap scheme.
60K on a Honda is barely run in. I don't feel good about junking a car like that, but I am not going to get into an argument with her over it. It's her decision and it's what she wants. If the scheme is a nightmare, please let me know why?
Thanks
NDNDNDND said:
I can't believe that car isn't quite desirable in Honda fanboy circles - they still had a cable throttle and hydraulic steering at that age.
This is on eBay for £1800 with over 100k miles:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/395068461570?hash=item5...
Don't scrap that car - it'll be valuable to somebody, particularly if it's in good condition.
Maybe ask on Honda forums and see if someone wants it? I'll bet you can get £2k without needlessly destroying it.
Thanks. I tried a search on Ebay for sold listings and found an identical car to hers with same mileage. It was advertised @ £1,595 - and the dealer took 'best offer accepted', which was the basis for my £1,500 valuation (I also looked at others, but the general trend points towards her car being somewhere around that value +/- £200).This is on eBay for £1800 with over 100k miles:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/395068461570?hash=item5...
Don't scrap that car - it'll be valuable to somebody, particularly if it's in good condition.
Maybe ask on Honda forums and see if someone wants it? I'll bet you can get £2k without needlessly destroying it.
I would like to hear from anyone who's used the scrappage scheme, as I don't think she is going to budge on selling. She doesn't want the aggro, simple as that.
NB - my understanding is that the 'up to £2,000' is for people who take cash alone, and don't take a travelcard. TFL offer a deal where you get more off the price than the equivalent travelcard would cost, i.e. they knock £500 off the scrap price (you get £1.5K for car), but you get a greater amount off travelcard. I am pretty sure that you get a flat-rate price for the car, as long as it has an MOT and is not ULEZ-compliant. I am asking here simply to get any helpful tips from anyone who's been through the process. There isn't much time left on the MOT, and although it should pass, there's no point in delaying if she wants shot of the car.
Countdown said:
Seems a slight flaw in that system What's to stop somebody buying a £500 in Yorkshire, taking it down to London, and then taking advantage of the scrappage scheme? "Up to £2k" would make far more sense
Del Boy would make a nice little earner that way. Taken from: https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emissio...
TFL said:
To be eligible for a grant payment to scrap or retrofit your vehicle, the vehicle needs to have been registered with the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) to you, at your address, since 30 January 2022 or before. The vehicle must also have valid insurance, road tax and MOT and not meet the ULEZ emissions standards.
Edited by flat16 on Saturday 23 December 17:43
That's the utter stupidity of the ULEZ rules. Her car was made just before the Euro Emissions Class 4 came about, so although the limit of Nox is below the ULEZ standard, her car is classed as non-compliant. My 2000 Cliosport is the same. Were I to get an identical car in every way, but a year later on 2001 plate, it'd be compliant. Because my one came before the classification came in, it's non-compliant. Renault refused to issue me with a certificate to say it's compliant (they basically told me to eff off - were no help at all and have put me off ever buying a new Renault).
I hadn't thought of calling Honda... Maybe they will be cooler about the situation than Renault? My mechanic called VW and got a certificate... There is little impetus for the maker to do this. I get the impression VW did it for good PR. In theory, were a group of owners with cars that have fallen into the same trap got together and hired a lawyer, I suppose they could force the maker into issuing a certificate??... But that's not the point of this thread. The mother certainly hasn't got the appetite for that. I have for my Clio, but the 1st issue Cliosport is rare now and I'm not sure if I'll be able to find a very big group of litigants, or if it's legally possible.
I hadn't thought of calling Honda... Maybe they will be cooler about the situation than Renault? My mechanic called VW and got a certificate... There is little impetus for the maker to do this. I get the impression VW did it for good PR. In theory, were a group of owners with cars that have fallen into the same trap got together and hired a lawyer, I suppose they could force the maker into issuing a certificate??... But that's not the point of this thread. The mother certainly hasn't got the appetite for that. I have for my Clio, but the 1st issue Cliosport is rare now and I'm not sure if I'll be able to find a very big group of litigants, or if it's legally possible.
And one other thing: her Honda has a digital throttle that jumps with a slight lag from standstill. She has always hated it (I hate it when I've driven it), so I think she's relishing getting rid of it. The car's good in every other way. I'm 99% sure the digital throttle is inherent to the design. Most people live with it. She would be faced with getting Honda to send TFL a letter, then she'd want to re-map the throttle were she to keep it. I really doubt she can be ar$ed to do this. It makes parking in tight spots awkward and she's had enough of it.
Good point, I haven't.
One thing to bear in mind: TFL allow you to shop around at scrap merchants, and you can trouser anything that they give you. If she can get £2K out of TFL, plus a cherry on top from the scrap yard, then I do not imagine that WBAC will be able (or want) to compete with that.
She had her cat nicked a couple of years back, and the insurer wanted to write the car off then. In the end, she paid out of her own pocket for a 3rd party (ceramic) cat @ £650. I looked at what her car would've been worth then and it was below £2K at the time, so I am not optimistic about getting more than £1.5K now from anyone, let alone a dealer. If they are savvy, they will look underneath for the original cat, which it doesn't have.
One thing to bear in mind: TFL allow you to shop around at scrap merchants, and you can trouser anything that they give you. If she can get £2K out of TFL, plus a cherry on top from the scrap yard, then I do not imagine that WBAC will be able (or want) to compete with that.
She had her cat nicked a couple of years back, and the insurer wanted to write the car off then. In the end, she paid out of her own pocket for a 3rd party (ceramic) cat @ £650. I looked at what her car would've been worth then and it was below £2K at the time, so I am not optimistic about getting more than £1.5K now from anyone, let alone a dealer. If they are savvy, they will look underneath for the original cat, which it doesn't have.
DP14 said:
I used it
C n C said:
Yes - we scrapped our 1998 Ford Fiesta
^ This is exactly the sort of info I was looking for. Thank you very much!My primary concern is getting the application processed before MOT is due on 12th of Jan.
HughG said:
Have you written to TfL asking them to reassess whether the car is compliant? I did the same with my 1999 Porsche 996 and it is now registered as complaint. Drop me a pm and I will send you a copy of the correspondence if you want.
You did this without needing Porsche to write to them? Thank you for the extremely kind offer. I’ll drop you a PM right now.
Thank you all - much appreciated.
Update: TFL have emailed '3 forms'. However, they only attached 2 of them: the explainer form, and the T+Cs...but they didn't attach the actual application form... Am waiting for that...
The mother's Civic is a 1.7 Vtec Auto Coupe with 60K. She is adamant about scrapping it and I am not pressing her on it.
My Clio Sport Ph1 is a different conundrum. I don't want to scrap it (it has a low mileage, and I don't drive enough in the UK to warrant buying another car - especially as it drives like a go-kart and is the last ClioSport with a wire throttle).
When I spoke to Renault UK, I explained that a Y plate car is classifed as compliant, but my X plater isn't. The woman simply said that they couldn't help. It left me with a bad impression of Renault UK. She literally shrugged her shoulders and told me to get a new car. If Y plate cars are compliant, does that mean that even though my car pre-dates Euro Class 4 certification, I should be able to get a doc that says its NOx level is low enough to qualify? My understanding is that the car is about 1/3 of the max NOx allowed. I drive the thing about once a week if I am lucky... But even then, if I pay £12.50 once a week it'll be cheaper than changing over to another car. I doubt a modern car will be as much fun as the Clio. I can't get a 2-seater as the boy won't like being stuffed in the boot
Update: TFL have emailed '3 forms'. However, they only attached 2 of them: the explainer form, and the T+Cs...but they didn't attach the actual application form... Am waiting for that...
The mother's Civic is a 1.7 Vtec Auto Coupe with 60K. She is adamant about scrapping it and I am not pressing her on it.
My Clio Sport Ph1 is a different conundrum. I don't want to scrap it (it has a low mileage, and I don't drive enough in the UK to warrant buying another car - especially as it drives like a go-kart and is the last ClioSport with a wire throttle).
When I spoke to Renault UK, I explained that a Y plate car is classifed as compliant, but my X plater isn't. The woman simply said that they couldn't help. It left me with a bad impression of Renault UK. She literally shrugged her shoulders and told me to get a new car. If Y plate cars are compliant, does that mean that even though my car pre-dates Euro Class 4 certification, I should be able to get a doc that says its NOx level is low enough to qualify? My understanding is that the car is about 1/3 of the max NOx allowed. I drive the thing about once a week if I am lucky... But even then, if I pay £12.50 once a week it'll be cheaper than changing over to another car. I doubt a modern car will be as much fun as the Clio. I can't get a 2-seater as the boy won't like being stuffed in the boot
My mother called them and asked to be emailed the forms directly. She signed up for the Ulez online, but wasn't able to log in for some reason, so called them. There is a chance that they are sending the applications form via post...but it's a bit weird that the other 2 were sent via email, with email stating 'here are your 3 attachments'. Her MOT is due on the 12th. There's no reason why it should fail, but she could do without the potential hassle. Thanks
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