hedgehogs - out of hibernation yet?
hedgehogs - out of hibernation yet?
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kartman24

462 posts

277 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Got my first sight of one this year, went down the garden around 10pm and surprised a very large hog who pulled his skirt up and took off at warp speed. No problem with him running low on fat reserves, as Rob Scheider said in the movie Jaws `I think we gonna need a bigger boat!` ......er make that bag of peanuts.
........Martin

grand cherokee

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2,432 posts

225 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Morningside said:
Any chance of photos yet?
Hedgehogs are brilliant. We have two in our garden. Not seen them yet.
soon

getting one of the 'creature cams' you see used on the tv wildlife programmes

kartman24

462 posts

277 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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This was an over wintering baby in 2010, just to keep you going till someone posts this years pictures..........Martin

grand cherokee

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2,432 posts

225 months

Monday 22nd April 2013
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got a very unwelcome 'visitor'

at 6.45am today the blackbirds/magpies etc were going mad

looked out of the window and there was a bloody fox about 12' from the kitchen window eating mealworms/suet pellets and peanuts!

I hear foxes at night as my house backs onto open fields but until now they have never to my knowledge (or my Labradors) been in the garden

knowing foxes as I unfortunately do once they have found a food source they keep coming back - and the bds kill and eat hedgehogs

i'm not having that so time for action - unfortunately can't use a snare/trap because of cats

Nightmare

5,279 posts

310 months

Monday 22nd April 2013
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Hi GC...i believe its damn unusual for a fox to kill a hedgehog?.....only if it were starving i would think (which through your unintended generosity it wont be!)

grand cherokee

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2,432 posts

225 months

Monday 22nd April 2013
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Nightmare said:
Hi GC...i believe its damn unusual for a fox to kill a hedgehog?.....only if it were starving i would think (which through your unintended generosity it wont be!)
actually foxes and badgers are the only natural predators of hedgehogs

foxes have learned how to grab hold of and maim or kill hedgehogs

as follows

a) fox pounces on hedgehog which curls up on contact

b) fox freezes and stays still about 2' away from the rear of the hedgehog

c) hedgehog hearing nothing, thinks its safe (sight is poor so smell/hearing are their main senses) and slowly uncurls - as it puts its back legs out to run the fox springs and grabs the back legs and bites thus disabling the hedgehog

d) eat at leisure going for the soft underside first

I can say 100% that this hedgehog response is correct - I 've seen how they respond to my Labrador - but she never tries to hurt them - well apart from a lick!





Edited by grand cherokee on Monday 22 April 11:47

grand cherokee

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2,432 posts

225 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2013
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update

collected my overwintered juvenile this morning

she (Edwina) weighed in at a massive 1150g - because she was sharing a 'house' with another she has also come back with me (Kim) who weighed a few grammes less!

because I've already got four/five new 'guests' these two have been taken to my parents house as they have nearly 1 acre of mature garden

I mentioned I have a very small new guest - been advised to weight him/her - if less than 450g its suggested they go to the rescue centre to be checked for possible lungworm infection etc

so tonight its 'weigh in' time

highflyer

1,899 posts

252 months

Saturday 11th May 2013
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Just collected two female hedgehogs from a rescue center for release into our garden, have built a hedgehog house and got meal worms and kitten dried food to try and encourage them to stay in the garden will feed them every night.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

274 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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We had one in our garden the other night, first time in years!

Unfortunately he wandered off to the neighbours, knew I should have bought that house, our cat prefers it too.

Tango13

9,937 posts

202 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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I once found a very underweight hedgehog in my garage so I ended up taking it on a 40 mile hoon to St TiddyWinkles to ensure it survived the winter.

I'm not sure it's hearing survived Leftfield, Leftism that I was playing at '11' on the stereo though.

ILoveMondeo

9,614 posts

252 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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First sighting of my garden hedgehog on Monday this week!

Seen him every other night so far.

He's got a little friend this year!

From all the noise they are making they are either making hoglets or killing each other!


highflyer

1,899 posts

252 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Going to miss these little fellas if they leave the garden, releasing them tonight but have two boxes and a feeding station so will have food left out if they want it.

grand cherokee

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2,432 posts

225 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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highflyer said:

Going to miss these little fellas if they leave the garden, releasing them tonight but have two boxes and a feeding station so will have food left out if they want it.
nice chunky looking hog

did you weigh them?

my overwintered juveniles weighed over 1kg at release!!

highflyer

1,899 posts

252 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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No havent weighed them, got them from a rescue so should I weigh them and what should they be ? also we have been feeding them with kitten go cat dried food in a shallow bowl, and scatter meal worms around the enclosure so they have to work for them, and of course a shallow bowl of water. how much go cat should we give them ? its all gone next day apart from some crumbs.
got to say I have never seen so much poo out of two little critters in one night, obviously clean it up every morning so they have a clean start for the night.
PS they are outside now in the garden in a fenced enclosure and the hedge hog boxes are backed into the hedge so they have a run around on grass and I have made a low minature table which covers the food so they can eat under cover, they are brilliant little creatures I am going to remove the enclosure at the weekend.

grand cherokee

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2,432 posts

225 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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highflyer said:
No havent weighed them, got them from a rescue so should I weigh them and what should they be ? also we have been feeding them with kitten go cat dried food in a shallow bowl, and scatter meal worms around the enclosure so they have to work for them, and of course a shallow bowl of water. how much go cat should we give them ? its all gone next day apart from some crumbs.
got to say I have never seen so much poo out of two little critters in one night, obviously clean it up every morning so they have a clean start for the night.
PS they are outside now in the garden in a fenced enclosure and the hedge hog boxes are backed into the hedge so they have a run around on grass and I have made a low minature table which covers the food so they can eat under cover, they are brilliant little creatures I am going to remove the enclosure at the weekend.
please weigh them (use a plastic carrier bag and my fishing scales) be interested to compare with 'mine'

how much food? - no idea I've never had any left over in the morning - I've usually four each night and put out a few handfuls of peanuts and about 4/5 big mugs of mealworms

I've several 'feeding stations' - the most popular being at the back door where they queue up!

just they are dumping machines - in one end out the other!!

they have several shallow water bowls but frequently use the deeper bird bowl

if you want to see a feeding frenzy either dig up some worms or get them from the fishing shop

between myself and my parents we go through a lot of mealworms - buy in bulk for cost savings - some offers on ebay or mail me for my supplier

I bought 10kg this morning for £78 - compare that with shop prices!!



Edited by grand cherokee on Tuesday 21st May 11:02

highflyer

1,899 posts

252 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Hi folks
I collected two rescue HH from a wildlife rescue centre Sat 11th May I have built an enclosure with chicken wire and made two boxes from plans on the RSPCA site and have put them in the garden, we were told that they were two females so I made two boxes so that they could have there own box as they are territorial, well every night I feed them with go cat kitten dried food and a load of meal worms and water, hoping that they will stay around when i remove the chicken wire.
we always see the one out, but not the other, so we have just checked the boxes and the one box is empty but the other is packed full with shredded newspaper and some moss that they have collected, I put the newspaper in both boxes so they have dragged it out of one and into the other I moved some of the paper to check that they are both ok and guess what, I saw TWO little baby HH about 2" long I'm totally over the bloody moon, question now to any experts do I now feed them with anything extra to boost the diet any help would be appreciated as I want to give the little ones a good start
thanks, from a new dad with twins smile

ILoveMondeo

9,614 posts

252 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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You jammy git, we have two or three different hogs visiting us for the food we put of but they would all appear to be grumpy territorial males, no sign of any hoglets! frown

Serious question though, is it ok to catch them to weigh and sex them ( if they are happy to uncurl themselves) ?

Ours are pretty timid but will let you feed by hand if I'm patient. Could easily scoop them up at this point but I'm worried about traumatising them!!

Everything I read says you must weigh them in autumn...

Thanks

highflyer

1,899 posts

252 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Going to extend the enclosure tomorrow to give them a bit more space, just wondering what food to give them, now that mother is feeding the young I will try and take a photo in the next few days when the weather picks up a bit, never seen tiny baby HH before.

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

212 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Drove to work very early the other day and one was wandering about in the road in a village, but I steered round him.

Next day I saw him splatted at the same point.

I suspect the dozy tt I'd previously overtaken just ran straight over him.

highflyer

1,899 posts

252 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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Had a good look in the box this morning and found 3 baby hedge hogs, not two as 1st thought, we only looked because one of them doesn't come out until about 11pm and never out at 6am when we get up, with this hot weather wanted to make sure they were ok, blimy have they grown in two weeks, so the choice of food must be good, have a couple of other photos to post