EU bans dipping olive oil in restaurants
Discussion
Zod said:
Melman Giraffe said:
grumbledoak said:
I bet it was Ze Chermans behind this. It's not as if olive oil goes well with wurst and sauerkraut anyway.
Truechris watton said:
...But they're now coming after our conkers! 
http://order-order.com/2013/05/23/bonkers-conkers-...
"At the beginning of the month the “Plant Reproductive Material Law” was adopted by the EU Commission to regulate all plants. Seed experts say:
“Under the new law, it will immediately be illegal to grow, reproduce or trade any vegetable seed or tree that has not been tested and approved by a new “EU Plant Variety Agency”, who will make a list of approved plants. Moreover, an annual fee must also be paid to the Agency to keep them on the list, and if not paid, they cannot be produced.”
Which means that strictly speaking it is now in breach of EU regulations for schoolboys to swap or sell their conkers to their mates, without paying an annual fee and without conkers being “officially tested and registered”. Bonkers."
Did you follow my rule of always reading the proposal when you hear the EU has written an outrageous proposal?http://order-order.com/2013/05/23/bonkers-conkers-...
"At the beginning of the month the “Plant Reproductive Material Law” was adopted by the EU Commission to regulate all plants. Seed experts say:
“Under the new law, it will immediately be illegal to grow, reproduce or trade any vegetable seed or tree that has not been tested and approved by a new “EU Plant Variety Agency”, who will make a list of approved plants. Moreover, an annual fee must also be paid to the Agency to keep them on the list, and if not paid, they cannot be produced.”
Which means that strictly speaking it is now in breach of EU regulations for schoolboys to swap or sell their conkers to their mates, without paying an annual fee and without conkers being “officially tested and registered”. Bonkers."
EU proposal said:
In order to take into account the needs of producers and the requirements of
flexibility and proportionality, the Regulation will not to apply to plant reproductive
material intended for testing and scientific purposes and intended for breeding
(selection) purposes. In addition, it should not apply to material intended to or
maintained in gene banks, organisations and networks of ex-situ and in-situ or on
farm conservation of genetic resources following national strategies on conservation
of genetic resources. Furthermore, plant reproductive material exchanged in kind
between two persons other than professional operators is excluded from the scope of
the Regulation.
flexibility and proportionality, the Regulation will not to apply to plant reproductive
material intended for testing and scientific purposes and intended for breeding
(selection) purposes. In addition, it should not apply to material intended to or
maintained in gene banks, organisations and networks of ex-situ and in-situ or on
farm conservation of genetic resources following national strategies on conservation
of genetic resources. Furthermore, plant reproductive material exchanged in kind
between two persons other than professional operators is excluded from the scope of
the Regulation.
EU proposal said:
As under this Regulation the definition of operator does not include private persons, the term 'professional operator' is used.
Full text for your enjoyment.So yes, if a school boy registered himself a business and sold conkers he may potentially have a problem.
ETA: Mind you it didn't stop the Telegraph linking that page.
Edited by speedy_thrills on Thursday 23 May 13:47
speedy_thrills said:
Trade organisations in Germany and olive oil suppliers have been lobbying to have this legislation passed (it was actually first proposed in '05) to ensure their customers are getting what they've paid for and producers of genuine high quality product are better protected
Want to buy a bridge?speedy_thrills said:
chris watton said:
...But they're now coming after our conkers!
http://order-order.com/2013/05/23/bonkers-conkers-...
"At the beginning of the month the “Plant Reproductive Material Law” was adopted by the EU Commission to regulate all plants. Seed experts say:
“Under the new law, it will immediately be illegal to grow, reproduce or trade any vegetable seed or tree that has not been tested and approved by a new “EU Plant Variety Agency”, who will make a list of approved plants. Moreover, an annual fee must also be paid to the Agency to keep them on the list, and if not paid, they cannot be produced.”
Which means that strictly speaking it is now in breach of EU regulations for schoolboys to swap or sell their conkers to their mates, without paying an annual fee and without conkers being “officially tested and registered”. Bonkers."
Did you follow my rule of always reading the proposal when you hear the EU has written an outrageous proposal?http://order-order.com/2013/05/23/bonkers-conkers-...
"At the beginning of the month the “Plant Reproductive Material Law” was adopted by the EU Commission to regulate all plants. Seed experts say:
“Under the new law, it will immediately be illegal to grow, reproduce or trade any vegetable seed or tree that has not been tested and approved by a new “EU Plant Variety Agency”, who will make a list of approved plants. Moreover, an annual fee must also be paid to the Agency to keep them on the list, and if not paid, they cannot be produced.”
Which means that strictly speaking it is now in breach of EU regulations for schoolboys to swap or sell their conkers to their mates, without paying an annual fee and without conkers being “officially tested and registered”. Bonkers."
EU proposal said:
In order to take into account the needs of producers and the requirements of
flexibility and proportionality, the Regulation will not to apply to plant reproductive
material intended for testing and scientific purposes and intended for breeding
(selection) purposes. In addition, it should not apply to material intended to or
maintained in gene banks, organisations and networks of ex-situ and in-situ or on
farm conservation of genetic resources following national strategies on conservation
of genetic resources. Furthermore, plant reproductive material exchanged in kind
between two persons other than professional operators is excluded from the scope of
the Regulation.
flexibility and proportionality, the Regulation will not to apply to plant reproductive
material intended for testing and scientific purposes and intended for breeding
(selection) purposes. In addition, it should not apply to material intended to or
maintained in gene banks, organisations and networks of ex-situ and in-situ or on
farm conservation of genetic resources following national strategies on conservation
of genetic resources. Furthermore, plant reproductive material exchanged in kind
between two persons other than professional operators is excluded from the scope of
the Regulation.
EU proposal said:
As under this Regulation the definition of operator does not include private persons, the term 'professional operator' is used.
Full text for your enjoyment.So yes, if a school boy registered himself a business and sold conkers he may potentially have a problem.
ETA: Mind you it didn't stop the Telegraph linking that page.
Edited by speedy_thrills on Thursday 23 May 13:47
speedy_thrills said:
Full text for your enjoyment.
So yes, if a school boy registered himself a business and sold conkers he may potentially have a problem.
ETA: Mind you it didn't stop the Telegraph linking that page.
No - I have to be honest, the last time I slept was yesterday morning - I have been working all night to get something done, so I guess I'm not firing on all cylinders after working a self imposed 24 hour shift - so you'll have to forgive me.So yes, if a school boy registered himself a business and sold conkers he may potentially have a problem.
ETA: Mind you it didn't stop the Telegraph linking that page.
Edited by speedy_thrills on Thursday 23 May 13:47
I seen it whilst browsing during a tea break, and posted it because I thought it'd be funny. That's all the thought that went into it.
i despise the eu and love it when they shoot themselves in the foot with public relations disasters like this but last summer we spent 2 weeks in the italian lakes and in all but a handful of the most expensive restaurants were served very cheap, very nasty olive oil. it was so bad we could only laugh about it. now i know europhiles, of whom i'm one, will rightly assume i am a frightful oik and they saw us coming, however the wife isn't and in any case if this helps put an end to ripping off tourists then its not the worst thing to come out the eu. god knows its has some stiff competition on that front.
Cheese Mechanic said:
According to the DT, the EU idiots have dropped the olive oil jug ban.
A rare move in the right direction. I wonder what petty interference they will dream up next.
It remains deeply offensive and very depressing, that there are armies of people inside the EU machine who have a generous pay and pension package to dream up this stuff. All paid for by us.A rare move in the right direction. I wonder what petty interference they will dream up next.
toppstuff said:
Cheese Mechanic said:
According to the DT, the EU idiots have dropped the olive oil jug ban.
A rare move in the right direction. I wonder what petty interference they will dream up next.
It remains deeply offensive and very depressing, that there are armies of people inside the EU machine who have a generous pay and pension package to dream up this stuff. All paid for by us.A rare move in the right direction. I wonder what petty interference they will dream up next.
djstevec said:
I guess no one has bothered to look about how much diluting, re-labelling of cheap imports or just plain fraud in the olive oil industry there is?
Do you want pure olive oil or some cheapo substitute whilst paying full price?
I suppose since nobody seems to be complaining it's not a problem. And if you require the bottle to tell the difference then so what. If anyone cared they would demand a bottle.Do you want pure olive oil or some cheapo substitute whilst paying full price?
Don't restaurants get inspected every now and then? Just add testing the olive oil to the list.
FurtiveFreddy said:
The creation of such a law is a waste of resources and money and that's what should be stopped.
Looks like the European Commission agreed, the proposal was dropped before it even went before the European Parliament or Council of Ministers. It'll probably get stripped down and redrafted in a form that retains the merits of the current proposal without the inconvenience to end users. speedy_thrills said:
FurtiveFreddy said:
The creation of such a law is a waste of resources and money and that's what should be stopped.
Looks like the European Commission agreed, the proposal was dropped before it even went before the European Parliament or Council of Ministers. It'll probably get stripped down and redrafted in a form that retains the merits of the current proposal without the inconvenience to end users. Interesting comments in the Telegraph. Apparently Baroso himself intervened, and guess what - his father was/is a small olive oil producer.
The big winner from the legislation was likely to be very large organisations, as usual, who can create olive oil and cheaper costs than the little people. They are, of course, up in arms that the legislation has been dropped.
The big winner from the legislation was likely to be very large organisations, as usual, who can create olive oil and cheaper costs than the little people. They are, of course, up in arms that the legislation has been dropped.
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