RE: Citroen DS3 Racing: Spotted
RE: Citroen DS3 Racing: Spotted
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Beefmeister

16,482 posts

256 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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405dogvan said:
It's not the car's fault you hired the wrong car is it?
A car that can't go up a motorway gradient in 3rd gear, 2 up without turning the AC off is, by definition, crap. It should have been a perfectly capable car for the job, it just wasn't.

HDM

341 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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A couple of questions:

I thought they did have a few performance tweeks, not just stickers, somehow I thought they had some suspension work. I remember Car magazine published a good review when launched?

Stef, what was the engine issue? If it is well known, and you're not the only one impacted, can you give a little more information?

Cheers

TankRS

2,850 posts

180 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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heres his topic in the french section. Googled Citroen DS3 Racing engine issue and his thread was the 2nd hit

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=110...

Carnnoisseur

531 posts

180 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Bladedancer said:
Dont get me wrong, it might be a great car, but I think only a spotty teenager who thinks he "has a way with the ladies" would drive a car that looks like that.
Too funny lol

stephen300o

15,464 posts

254 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Carnnoisseur said:
Bladedancer said:
Dont get me wrong, it might be a great car, but I think only a spotty teenager who thinks he "has a way with the ladies" would drive a car that looks like that.
Too funny lol
Well sarcasm is the lowest form of whit. He was doing his best!

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

244 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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I really don't understand this article at all, 'it could have been so much more'? all the press raved about it when it came out, unless my memory fails me.

So what are we left with? New Citroen loses money when second hand shocker..................


Is that all you lot have got to write about?

Ollie92

4 posts

157 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Oddball RS said:
I really don't understand this article at all, 'it could have been so much more'? all the press raved about it when it came out, unless my memory fails me.

So what are we left with? New Citroen loses money when second hand shocker..................


Is that all you lot have got to write about?
Agreed, also if you actually look at the other DS3R's for sale you'll realise that this one is stupidly cheap, obviously something wrong with it as they are known for engine faults. Surely one random car being a lot cheaper doesn't stand for the entire models depreciation that makes no sense.

As for people complaining that you could get a lot more for that price, that really depends on your age. Insurance is a massive part of buying a new car, I'm 21 and the insurance rates are ridiculous for anything with a bit of power. I got a DS3R...insurance was half than what it was currently on a standard 1.6 Citroen C4.

At the end of the day I bought it because it's a lot more powerful than anything I've owned before, handles really well and I really like the look of it which if I'm honest is like marmite you either love it or you hate it.

mannyg

54 posts

173 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Beefmeister said:
405dogvan said:
It's not the car's fault you hired the wrong car is it?
A car that can't go up a motorway gradient in 3rd gear, 2 up without turning the AC off is, by definition, crap. It should have been a perfectly capable car for the job, it just wasn't.
Ha, totally agree. I haven't driven a c1, but I had a Toyota Aygo hire car in denmark, on flat roads and it was by far the sh**est car I have ever driven. I borrowed a friends 12yo 90hp toyota corrola last week and even that was better.

The Aygo was slow, noisy, tinny and didn't have a single redeeming feature.

I actually think the normal DS3 looks pretty good, but with the racing additions and the price hike, it is pretty hard to imagine who was buying them.

Tinykin

46 posts

294 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Car in its natural habitat?


S10GTA

13,680 posts

193 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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That's not a DS3R

StefanVXR8

3,619 posts

224 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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HDM said:
A couple of questions:

I thought they did have a few performance tweeks, not just stickers, somehow I thought they had some suspension work. I remember Car magazine published a good review when launched?

Stef, what was the engine issue? If it is well known, and you're not the only one impacted, can you give a little more information?

Cheers
The engine issue was a very bad misfire from cold and also when accelerating at speed.

I appreciate that it is very much a marmite car but when it was working it was actually a very good car and yes it was a lot more than a garish colour scheme. It handled brilliantly, amazing ability to be simply thrown in to a corner, it was pretty nippy throughout the engine band and when required, very economic, I could return 50mpg on a 70mph cruise.

I have to say though, it's an episode in my motoring life I wish I never had, just to much hassle getting it rejected etc and I really wish I hadn't bought it, not for what it was, purely for the problems.

At the point my first one was handed back after I refused a new engine I was aware of four other DS3R's in the UK waiting for new engines, I knew of one which had already had a new engine and a dealer selling an unfixed rejected car.

I think the engine issue is a bit more wide spread than just the DS3 Racing, plenty of web related content on issues in Pug's, MINI's and Citröen with variations of that 1.6 Turbo engine.

Stef

Steve vRS

5,352 posts

267 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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My wife has a 155 DSport+ and to be honest it fills me with meh. Most of that is because she chose it over a fully loaded RS200 frown in metallic white.

Steve

Jigsjigz

93 posts

195 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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And soon it shall be just like the cars of yesterday... Saxos and corsa.

ess

801 posts

204 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Now that is well spotted !

10 out of 10 sir

Tinykin said:
Car in its natural habitat?

DannyScene

7,890 posts

181 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Beefmeister said:
Crunchy Nutter said:
No it isn't - you're just not wringing its neck enough! It's a perfect hire car. It'll even do an indicated 103mph in third gear.
Nope, it's awful. Drove one from Geneva to Dijon and over the mountains we had to turn the AC off just so it would go up the motorway hills!
That's what the guy is saying though, with more p-ower it'd be a great little car

I've driven one and it seemed like quite a nice nippy car, more power wouldve been eprfect though

stephen300o

15,464 posts

254 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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DannyScene said:
Beefmeister said:
Crunchy Nutter said:
No it isn't - you're just not wringing its neck enough! It's a perfect hire car. It'll even do an indicated 103mph in third gear.
Nope, it's awful. Drove one from Geneva to Dijon and over the mountains we had to turn the AC off just so it would go up the motorway hills!
That's what the guy is saying though, with more p-ower it'd be a great little car

I've driven one and it seemed like quite a nice nippy car, more power wouldve been eprfect though
More power would make it less powerful than something slightly further up the road. It's all relative. The original 500 is just about perfect dispite having half a horsepower to push it's shell around.

DannyScene

7,890 posts

181 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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stephen300o said:
DannyScene said:
Beefmeister said:
Crunchy Nutter said:
No it isn't - you're just not wringing its neck enough! It's a perfect hire car. It'll even do an indicated 103mph in third gear.
Nope, it's awful. Drove one from Geneva to Dijon and over the mountains we had to turn the AC off just so it would go up the motorway hills!
That's what the guy is saying though, with more p-ower it'd be a great little car

I've driven one and it seemed like quite a nice nippy car, more power wouldve been eprfect though
More power would make it less powerful than something slightly further up the road. It's all relative. The original 500 is just about perfect dispite having half a horsepower to push it's shell around.
It may be relative but it isn't relavant
We're not saying make it faster than anything on the road, we're saying with more power it'd be an absolute hoot to drive

stephen300o

15,464 posts

254 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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DannyScene said:
stephen300o said:
DannyScene said:
Beefmeister said:
Crunchy Nutter said:
No it isn't - you're just not wringing its neck enough! It's a perfect hire car. It'll even do an indicated 103mph in third gear.
Nope, it's awful. Drove one from Geneva to Dijon and over the mountains we had to turn the AC off just so it would go up the motorway hills!
That's what the guy is saying though, with more p-ower it'd be a great little car

I've driven one and it seemed like quite a nice nippy car, more power wouldve been eprfect though
More power would make it less powerful than something slightly further up the road. It's all relative. The original 500 is just about perfect dispite having half a horsepower to push it's shell around.
It may be relative but it isn't relavant
We're not saying make it faster than anything on the road, we're saying with more power it'd be an absolute hoot to drive
How much more power? How fast is fun? What is the enjoyment minimum?

DannyScene

7,890 posts

181 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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stephen300o said:
DannyScene said:
stephen300o said:
DannyScene said:
Beefmeister said:
Crunchy Nutter said:
No it isn't - you're just not wringing its neck enough! It's a perfect hire car. It'll even do an indicated 103mph in third gear.
Nope, it's awful. Drove one from Geneva to Dijon and over the mountains we had to turn the AC off just so it would go up the motorway hills!
That's what the guy is saying though, with more p-ower it'd be a great little car

I've driven one and it seemed like quite a nice nippy car, more power wouldve been eprfect though
More power would make it less powerful than something slightly further up the road. It's all relative. The original 500 is just about perfect dispite having half a horsepower to push it's shell around.
It may be relative but it isn't relavant
We're not saying make it faster than anything on the road, we're saying with more power it'd be an absolute hoot to drive
How much more power? How fast is fun? What is the enjoyment minimum?
Thats a lot of questions for this early on a morning!

I agree with what the other guy said (forgot his username) with 100bhp the C1 would be an immense drive in my opinion and probably deserving of a VTR badge

Fun cannot be measured by how fast you go, it is subjective

I have to admit I dont get your 3rd question

stephen300o

15,464 posts

254 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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The enjoyment minimum floats about. A Murcielago was nowhere near as much fun as the 2cv I drove.