Has anyone snapped a peg hanger by standing on it?
Has anyone snapped a peg hanger by standing on it?
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LordFlathead

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9,646 posts

284 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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I just thought I would share a couple of pictures with you. I went out for a spirited ride on Friday and as I was approaching some undulations in the road on my ride home from work, I rose up onto the pegs to lessen the inevitable arse bashing (suspension provides a lot of 'feedback'). To my horror, my right foot fell away and I sat on my nuts on the way down.. nuts !

I was only travelling at around 25mph and after I had pulled over and stopped crying hehe I noticed that the right-hand peg carrier/footrest bracket has snapped in two. I presumed it is metal fatigue. Has anyone else experienced this before? Considering the bikes performance, I do not think that this part should fail so easily especially as it not only holds your foot up but supports the rear brake.



On closer inspection, (I put my glasses on!) there is indeed signs of metal fatigue which is clearly visible by the darker areas. This is indicative of poor batch inspection during the manufacture process.





When I get a suitable time, I'm going to drop a line to Kawasaki and see if they've had any previous experiences of this. You can imagine what would happen should you go for the brake and this happens, just thank full that this didn't happen to the front!

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

224 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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That's scary.

rossonza

131 posts

172 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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Bike/Year?

Yazza54

20,279 posts

207 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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That is very poor.

mrdelmonti

1,420 posts

207 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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That's a bit scary.

ZesPak

26,016 posts

222 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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Just how heavy are you?

Please don't say you're not over 14st, because if you aren't, I'll be scared as well biggrin.

Anyway, poor experience, never heard of it! Was it hit before in a drop or some other reason it might not have been in 100% good condition?

Gav182

136 posts

232 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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Bet that was a brown trouser moment , sure you haven't indulged in too many BBQ s with this nice weather wink

Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

216 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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You had the bike from new?

Only that to me looks like the bikes been dropped onto the peg, which cracked the metal internally, then your weight has finished the job. Far more likely than a random failure during casting.

I claim my five pounds.


sjtscott

4,215 posts

257 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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So OP this is off your zzr14? What year/mileage is it? have you had it from new? Assuming its never been dropped/crashed on that side?

LordFlathead

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9,646 posts

284 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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rossonza said:
Bike/Year?
ZZR1400 A9, 2009.

ZesPak said:
Just how heavy are you?

Please don't say you're not over 14st, because if you aren't, I'll be scared as well biggrin.

Anyway, poor experience, never heard of it! Was it hit before in a drop or some other reason it might not have been in 100% good condition?
12 stone weakling hehe never dropped, always garaged apart from LeMans and one day of madness in Wales wink

Gav182 said:
Bet that was a brown trouser moment , sure you haven't indulged in too many BBQ s with this nice weather wink
I wish irked

Prof Prolapse said:
You had the bike from new?

Only that to me looks like the bikes been dropped onto the peg, which cracked the metal internally, then your weight has finished the job. Far more likely than a random failure during casting.

I claim my five pounds.
2nd owner, bike never dropped in any way and I don't have a lot of weight. Can I claim my £5? Preferably from Kawasaki??

sjtscott said:
So OP this is off your zzr14? What year/mileage is it? have you had it from new? Assuming its never been dropped/crashed on that side?
yes 2009, just turned to 12,000 miles and I am the second owner. Never been dropped as stated before. Genuinely interested to hear what Kawasaki UK has to say about it smile

Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,918 posts

242 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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That is what I would call an unacceptable failure!

To give an example - I raced an R1 and a GSXR1000 in Nationals, and when you're racing, you rarely sit into the seat with your full bodyweight - you're basically stood on the pegs most of the time, using them to either keep the centre of gravity low when accelerating to prevent wheelies, or using them to assist with steering and controlling the rear tyre's grip in corners...

And I never had a failure like that! If I had, I probably would have crashed...





sjtscott

4,215 posts

257 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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LordFlathead said:
yes 2009, just turned to 12,000 miles and I am the second owner. Never been dropped as stated before. Genuinely interested to hear what Kawasaki UK has to say about it smile
I'd be playing the safety card given the apparent proof you have that the part has just failed. I'd suspect if remotely interested in your story they'll want the failed part back for a closer look.

LordFlathead

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284 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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Thanks for the comments, I was lucky where it failed and it could have been a lot worse. I'm genuinely interested to see what KUK have to say about it and I don't mind sending the parts to them. It will probably be the weekend before I get a reply as work commitments are immense at this time. Will update once I have some communication back.

Slink

2,947 posts

198 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
stood on the pegs most of the time, using them to either keep the centre of gravity low when accelerating to prevent wheelies, or using them to assist with steering and controlling the rear tyre's grip in corners...
Now I must admit I'm not the fastest person on a bike, but i can ride pretty quick. but when you are pushing on the pegs to assist with steering and controlling the rear tyre grip, do you use the inside peg? or what?

i must admits, i have never needed to do this, as i dont really push it at 10/10ths so dont really know. paperbag

Edited by Slink on Tuesday 18th June 03:05

bennyboysvuk

3,494 posts

274 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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This should never happen just by standing on the pegs. Standard hangers do seem brittle, but should always take the weight unless you hit them hard.

I broke a hanger at Rockingham when I eventually hit a plastic marker when taking the piss cutting the chicane on my new to me then SV track bike. It had to hit it pretty damned hard to do this though.


smack

9,772 posts

217 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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We always used to say that (old) Kwakas were made out of cheap metal... Guess they still are!

redtwin

7,518 posts

208 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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I have never stood on the pegs for exactly that reason. I just don't have much faith in thin bits of cast aluminium holding my 20st weight.

As for Kawasaki, I wouldn't surprised if they came back with "that's why they are called foot rests and not body supporters". hehe

ZesPak

26,016 posts

222 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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redtwin said:
I have never stood on the pegs for exactly that reason. I just don't have much faith in thin bits of cast aluminium holding my 20st weight.
Really?
If I strap some gear on the pillion seat, I often use the left foot peg to be able to swing my leg over the gear. In fact, I do it almost all the time.

Also, the manoeuvre the OP describes (lifting your weight from the seat to absorb a bump) surely is something we've all done to navigate things like speed bumps?

Edited by ZesPak on Tuesday 18th June 08:48

Yazza54

20,279 posts

207 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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20st!

redtwin

7,518 posts

208 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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ZesPak said:
Really?
If I strap some gear on the pillion seat, I often use the left foot peg to be able to swing my leg over the gear. In fact, I do it almost all the time.

Also, the manoeuvre the OP describes (lifting your weight from the seat to absorb a bump) surely is something we've all done to navigate things like speed bumps?

Edited by ZesPak on Tuesday 18th June 08:48
Nope never, I have front/rear suspension and a really comfy seat to absorb bumps. smile

Dirt bikes don't count as mine had a steel frame and footpegs.