Anyone doing the "Mini Miglia" next month?
Discussion
Just sent my entry off for the Knowldale Mini Miglia Road Run.
"The event will start at NWA Auctions near Kirkby Lonsdale and will cover approximately 165 miles of classic Mini Miglia roads before finishing at Banny's Fish Restaurant in Colne (Fish & Chip tea included)."
It's not a competition but there will be some timed tests under a separate permit and there is an option of navigating a "suggested" route to sample that rally experience.
I've never done one of these before but I'm really looking forward to it - there looks to be some nice cars entered already, the promise of some good roads and fish & chips laid on at the end. What more could you ask for?
"The event will start at NWA Auctions near Kirkby Lonsdale and will cover approximately 165 miles of classic Mini Miglia roads before finishing at Banny's Fish Restaurant in Colne (Fish & Chip tea included)."
It's not a competition but there will be some timed tests under a separate permit and there is an option of navigating a "suggested" route to sample that rally experience.
I've never done one of these before but I'm really looking forward to it - there looks to be some nice cars entered already, the promise of some good roads and fish & chips laid on at the end. What more could you ask for?
Edited by moribund on Sunday 16th February 00:20
I was worried the historic rally links might mean the route was a bit rough so I emailed the organiser. He said:
"The course car for the event is a 2012 C30 Volvo, so the roads are of a good standard. There are two fords in the route, but we have put a cut in the route just in case you don't want to go through them or the course car decides its a little too deep for the cars. I went round the route on Monday and there are some really good roads that haven't been on any events for a long time but all the roads are tarmac."
Entries so far range from tasty classics such as a Jaguar XK150 and Porsche 912 all the way through to a Vauxhall Tigra.
"The course car for the event is a 2012 C30 Volvo, so the roads are of a good standard. There are two fords in the route, but we have put a cut in the route just in case you don't want to go through them or the course car decides its a little too deep for the cars. I went round the route on Monday and there are some really good roads that haven't been on any events for a long time but all the roads are tarmac."
Entries so far range from tasty classics such as a Jaguar XK150 and Porsche 912 all the way through to a Vauxhall Tigra.
Sorted! That's three drivers I know or sort of know
Found this story about last years run
Anyone else fancy joining in?
Found this story about last years run
Anyone else fancy joining in?
Edited by moribund on Monday 17th February 18:28
Nice one Daryl! Definitely email Steve the organiser, I'm sure he'll be very helpful and clarify things for you.
I'll tell you what I think I know, but this is very dangerous as I've never done one of these before either...
It's effectively a scenic tour - but - you set off at intervals and there is an optional route to follow with checkpoints of a sort so you can experience the classic rally roads of the 50's and 60's. Effectively this means as a team you can experience old style rally navigation and of course I'm sure some crews will take pleasure from making progress in safe manner and visiting as many key locations as possible I understand there is the option of harder road-rally navigation to follow if you really want a challenge.
In addition there will be the chance to do some "tests" on private land. These are seperate to the main event. I'm expecting these to be a run around some cones like this, featuring benjj at 19:31 (but hopefully less wet) (note big merc just before him too!)
I'll tell you what I think I know, but this is very dangerous as I've never done one of these before either...
Paz565 said:
- I've never done one of these runs before, is it like the one Top Gear did? An average speed from checkpoint to checkpoint? Or just an excuse to run out with nice cars and fellow pistonheads?
This run is what is known as a "Touring Assembly". There is no timing at all, no requirement to go fast or slow and you're not forced to follow a fixed route. The point of this is to ensure there is no competition element on the public road so no special insurance or preparation is required etc.It's effectively a scenic tour - but - you set off at intervals and there is an optional route to follow with checkpoints of a sort so you can experience the classic rally roads of the 50's and 60's. Effectively this means as a team you can experience old style rally navigation and of course I'm sure some crews will take pleasure from making progress in safe manner and visiting as many key locations as possible I understand there is the option of harder road-rally navigation to follow if you really want a challenge.
In addition there will be the chance to do some "tests" on private land. These are seperate to the main event. I'm expecting these to be a run around some cones like this, featuring benjj at 19:31 (but hopefully less wet) (note big merc just before him too!)
Paz565 said:
- Is anyone from Huddersfield/Leeds area going and fancy a convoy over?
Yes, but I think I'll already be in a rush at 6am just to get sorted and there! We'll be faffing around as my co-driver needs to be in Leeds by 6pm so we're going to leave his car in Colne for a fast getaway.Paz565 said:
- Is a standard 1990 Mercedes SL500 going to be too low to sensibly do it in? I know it says mostly Tarmac but every picture I've found on google of this sort of thing, the cars are covered in mud? I don't mind getting her mucky but it doesn't take much to beach the damn thing!!
I expect the roads to be a lot like this video. I think there will be a good percentage of bumpy, narrowish country roads so an SL might be a challenge - but, check with Steve Warrington for a proper answer.Paz565 said:
- Finally other than entry fee and petrol are there any other costs I'm over looking?
Only lunch I think, fish and chips is included afterwards Edited by moribund on Monday 17th February 21:13
Ahhh, no worries!
The entry list has been updated.
Already looking like an interesting mix of classics, rally prepped moderns and daily-drivers. I'm pretty sure the Micra will be rally-prepped and the Corolla I think is a rear-wheel-drive rally car too. Hopefully the tests are on smooth-ish tarmac so we can challenge them.
Will be fascinating to see how everyone approaches this. Looking forward to just meeting everyone and having a nosey around the cars, let alone the drive out.
The entry list has been updated.
Already looking like an interesting mix of classics, rally prepped moderns and daily-drivers. I'm pretty sure the Micra will be rally-prepped and the Corolla I think is a rear-wheel-drive rally car too. Hopefully the tests are on smooth-ish tarmac so we can challenge them.
Will be fascinating to see how everyone approaches this. Looking forward to just meeting everyone and having a nosey around the cars, let alone the drive out.
Funny you should mention the Jubilee ... found an old Jubilee roadbook online so we went out this morning and did page 18 as a practice to see how it works ( Blubberhouses Quarry to Coldstones Quarry - click for map).
Well it was bloody good fun! Adding the roadbook transforms how you approach the drive and makes it much more interesting. It's pretty intense to be honest.
My mate did an excellent job on the notes. We finished with him feeling mildly travel sick and an average speed of 44.5mph (higher than expected largely due to 3 miles on the stupidly straight Sandy Gate/Blake Gate road).
Lessons learnt? Travel sick pills are a must and we need to pace ourselves and not go so full-on for a full day of it. Tulips are straightforward to navigate with on country roads. And I can easily imagine the hard steering wheel rim in the Elise giving me blisters on a full day.
Well it was bloody good fun! Adding the roadbook transforms how you approach the drive and makes it much more interesting. It's pretty intense to be honest.
My mate did an excellent job on the notes. We finished with him feeling mildly travel sick and an average speed of 44.5mph (higher than expected largely due to 3 miles on the stupidly straight Sandy Gate/Blake Gate road).
Lessons learnt? Travel sick pills are a must and we need to pace ourselves and not go so full-on for a full day of it. Tulips are straightforward to navigate with on country roads. And I can easily imagine the hard steering wheel rim in the Elise giving me blisters on a full day.
Edited by moribund on Sunday 23 February 14:54
That's what I was told by the organiser when I asked. My Elise is no rally car but he thought I'd be fine.
moribund said:
I was worried the historic rally links might mean the route was a bit rough so I emailed the organiser. He said:
"The course car for the event is a 2012 C30 Volvo, so the roads are of a good standard. There are two fords in the route, but we have put a cut in the route just in case you don't want to go through them or the course car decides its a little too deep for the cars. I went round the route on Monday and there are some really good roads that haven't been on any events for a long time but all the roads are tarmac."
Entries so far range from tasty classics such as a Jaguar XK150 and Porsche 912 all the way through to a Vauxhall Tigra.
"The course car for the event is a 2012 C30 Volvo, so the roads are of a good standard. There are two fords in the route, but we have put a cut in the route just in case you don't want to go through them or the course car decides its a little too deep for the cars. I went round the route on Monday and there are some really good roads that haven't been on any events for a long time but all the roads are tarmac."
Entries so far range from tasty classics such as a Jaguar XK150 and Porsche 912 all the way through to a Vauxhall Tigra.
Well, 40 entries so far: http://www.knowldale.co.uk/Miglia%20Road%20Run.htm
I've just put 2 new rear tyres and a new battery on the Elise. The tyres won't be scrubbed in by Saturday, if you see us spinning off backwards into a hedge please stop and help
How are you all thinking of approaching this? We're going to follow the tulips at a fun pace but not try the hard nav, and I'll attempt any tests that look safe for my car - I've no intention of taking any risks with my baby!
We're also going to have to be in Colne for 5 so my mate can make an evening appointment, so we'll probably end up abandoning the navigation and driving straight to the end at some point.
I guess Ben and Mitch will have the maps out and be rally driving over all the tests??
I've just put 2 new rear tyres and a new battery on the Elise. The tyres won't be scrubbed in by Saturday, if you see us spinning off backwards into a hedge please stop and help
How are you all thinking of approaching this? We're going to follow the tulips at a fun pace but not try the hard nav, and I'll attempt any tests that look safe for my car - I've no intention of taking any risks with my baby!
We're also going to have to be in Colne for 5 so my mate can make an evening appointment, so we'll probably end up abandoning the navigation and driving straight to the end at some point.
I guess Ben and Mitch will have the maps out and be rally driving over all the tests??
Ben, I'm now planning on going like the clappers to catch up then just following you, so don't get lost!
Looks like there were at least 2 tests planned originally but there is some issue with a double-booking at the auction place? That's a shame but out of their control I guess. I wasn't really expecting more than a couple of tests myself for £30 incl. fish and chips, road book and rally plate - the Bolton Autosolo I'm doing on Sunday is £30 entry for one test site all day.
Looks like there were at least 2 tests planned originally but there is some issue with a double-booking at the auction place? That's a shame but out of their control I guess. I wasn't really expecting more than a couple of tests myself for £30 incl. fish and chips, road book and rally plate - the Bolton Autosolo I'm doing on Sunday is £30 entry for one test site all day.
I've just spotted that the "finals" give the start address as NWA Auctions J36 Rural Auction Centre, Crooklands, Milnthorpe, Cumbria LA7 7FP
BUT, if you just use that postcode in sat nav you'll be stuffed. As per the website I think you'll be better off using LA7 7NU if you don't already know where the place is. It's pretty hard to miss I think.
Oh and I think lunch could be at the Wensleydale Creamery in Hawes.
BUT, if you just use that postcode in sat nav you'll be stuffed. As per the website I think you'll be better off using LA7 7NU if you don't already know where the place is. It's pretty hard to miss I think.
Oh and I think lunch could be at the Wensleydale Creamery in Hawes.
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