Wheeler Dealers
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Fiat 126 was OK, Polish method of “adjusting” spring gave me shivers. A bit too much time on visiting clubs etc, just FF
Looked much better at end, a good polish and valet?
Reminded me of my youth, under cars when it has been snowing and raking about in scrapyards and removing parts yourself.
Wife had one of these many years ago, reliable if boring, eventually scrapped it due to rust.
Looked much better at end, a good polish and valet?
Reminded me of my youth, under cars when it has been snowing and raking about in scrapyards and removing parts yourself.
Wife had one of these many years ago, reliable if boring, eventually scrapped it due to rust.
I may not know all the ins and outs of M3 pricing but did they really just pay 69k euros for an M3 with an engine rebuild and paint job done at home by the seller with no documentation or warranty on the work??
It’s not a bad show but it’s lost its way from what it started out as, and Mike seriously needs to start looking after himself. The cars they show in different garages are more interesting than what they buy and work on and I’d question whether without the show they’d make any profit on these cars, more like barely break even or a loss.
It’s not a bad show but it’s lost its way from what it started out as, and Mike seriously needs to start looking after himself. The cars they show in different garages are more interesting than what they buy and work on and I’d question whether without the show they’d make any profit on these cars, more like barely break even or a loss.
Misanthroper said:
I may not know all the ins and outs of M3 pricing but did they really just pay 69k euros for an M3 with an engine rebuild and paint job done at home by the seller with no documentation or warranty on the work??
It’s not a bad show but it’s lost its way from what it started out as, and Mike seriously needs to start looking after himself. The cars they show in different garages are more interesting than what they buy and work on and I’d question whether without the show they’d make any profit on these cars, more like barely break even or a loss.
Do people really think that the whole 'make a profit/loss' thing in Wheeler Dealers is actually real? Really? It’s not a bad show but it’s lost its way from what it started out as, and Mike seriously needs to start looking after himself. The cars they show in different garages are more interesting than what they buy and work on and I’d question whether without the show they’d make any profit on these cars, more like barely break even or a loss.
Seriously, it's a plot device. A conceit. A convenient start and finish point to the show. What Mike buys it for, what he sells it for, how much the parts cost is all just made up! The risk of whether the cars actually make a profit or not is no more consequential to the show, or Mike, than whether he has sugar in his tea or not. It's just a way to make the show more interesting! He's said as much himself a dozen times.
Anyone with half a brain can see that the 'cost' of what they do far outweighs any profit he's ever made. He doesn't cost his time. Or transport. Or Diesel. Or rent, or electricity, or insurance or a million other things that would all contribute to whether fixing up these cars in the way he does is a viable economic activity or not.
For the last time: Wheeler Dealers isn't a TV show about a man trying to make money on fixing up cars. It's a fun TV show about fixing up cars.
Not the best programme I thought, I think they bought the car because they wanted one at any cost to make the programme. I would not have paid that amount of money for a car with 180k and painted at home.
At least Elvis got his hands dirty on the diff. Another boriing rebuild of a seat, ho hum.
Shy about revealing the price again too, another loss?
At least Elvis got his hands dirty on the diff. Another boriing rebuild of a seat, ho hum.
Shy about revealing the price again too, another loss?
Literally one post later. In what way is any car they ever do not a loss? Show me your working how doing up bangers in a fully equipped workshop for television with a mechanic you see on screen & several you don't, camera operators, a director, sound guys, set designers, make up people, script writers, producers, accountants, catering, electiricians, grips, editors and presenters has a dollar in it,
President Merkin said:
Literally one post later. In what way is any car they ever do not a loss? Show me your working how doing up bangers in a fully equipped workshop for television with a mechanic you see on screen & several you don't, camera operators, a director, sound guys, set designers, make up people, script writers, producers, accountants, catering, electiricians, grips, editors and presenters has a dollar in it,
exactly! Mike said there's a core production crew of about 30 people! Just look at the titles at the end of the show!
I'd love someone to do a real cost breakdown of Mike spending a whole day, with two camera people, and a sound guy, driving a piece of dashboard 300 miles to be fixed by a guy in a shed, just to 'make a profit' on the car he's fixing.
I appreciate your arguement and you are correct but the way the programme started was that they replicated what you or I could do at home I.e. restoring a car ignoring the labour costs and he always stated up till now how much or little profit they made on the sale.
The profit will be on selling the programme to the tv companies.
The profit will be on selling the programme to the tv companies.
MDifficult said:
President Merkin said:
Literally one post later. In what way is any car they ever do not a loss? Show me your working how doing up bangers in a fully equipped workshop for television with a mechanic you see on screen & several you don't, camera operators, a director, sound guys, set designers, make up people, script writers, producers, accountants, catering, electiricians, grips, editors and presenters has a dollar in it,
exactly! Mike said there's a core production crew of about 30 people! Just look at the titles at the end of the show!
I'd love someone to do a real cost breakdown of Mike spending a whole day, with two camera people, and a sound guy, driving a piece of dashboard 300 miles to be fixed by a guy in a shed, just to 'make a profit' on the car he's fixing.
Quote: As much as I know the buy and sell costs etc are what they are, if you're going to add in the cost of the film crew etc you need to add on the profit from TV. That'll be a big figure....
Yes, that is where the programme went off the rails when the yanks got involved and cheapened the show by reducing the spanner time, I guess the film crew spent a lot of time waiting for the mechanics to remove, repair and refit some parts. Hence Edd left, was he correct? Professionally yes but not economically for him?
Yes, that is where the programme went off the rails when the yanks got involved and cheapened the show by reducing the spanner time, I guess the film crew spent a lot of time waiting for the mechanics to remove, repair and refit some parts. Hence Edd left, was he correct? Professionally yes but not economically for him?
the-norseman said:
Squadrone Rosso said:
I enjoyed it. Maranello is a brilliant place to visit.
Spent some time out there, nice grabbing a bear with the locals at night time. I'm back out there in November for a private factory tour cant wait. 
LARK F1 GTR said:
Did anyone see last nights episode?
I think it was great! Even the vehicle they went there in to see it was really rare!
It was very good. I was hoping they would keep the original number plates though I think it was great! Even the vehicle they went there in to see it was really rare!
The area was where my sister has recently moved too as well. Shame about the Land Rover chap though. That was unexpected at the end.
That was a very good episode. Quite interesting and I do like the 2CV. Many years ago I went on a school trip to France and next to our hotel was a shop selling toy cars. I bought a grey 2 CV van model with some of my spending money. I wish I still had it. It was very sad when I saw the piece at the end about Jack Wilcock, the chap with Land Rover.
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