Angela Rayner to face investigation?
Discussion
blueg33 said:
Is he a tax lawyer?
I use lawyers all the time. I use a construction lawyer for construction contracts, a planning barrister for planning, a development lawyer for development agreements. I wouldn't use the planning guy to advise me on tax law or the construction guy on employment law etc
He won't know the ins and outs but as party leader you would expect him to read the advice given so he knows what the actual position is, whether he was a lawyer or not. I use lawyers all the time. I use a construction lawyer for construction contracts, a planning barrister for planning, a development lawyer for development agreements. I wouldn't use the planning guy to advise me on tax law or the construction guy on employment law etc
blueg33 said:
Legacywr said:
Having risen to the very top of the legal profession in the UK, you’d think SKS would read AR’s professional advice and put this to bed…
Is he a tax lawyer?I use lawyers all the time. I use a construction lawyer for construction contracts, a planning barrister for planning, a development lawyer for development agreements. I wouldn't use the planning guy to advise me on tax law or the construction guy on employment law etc
Legacywr said:
Having risen to the very top of the legal profession in the UK, you’d think SKS would read AR’s professional advice and put this to bed…
He thinks not reading the advice insulates him in case GMP or HMRC come up with something (pathetic isn't it?)In fact it just makes him look weaker and a bit more teflon / slippery than usual.
Wombat3 said:
Legacywr said:
Having risen to the very top of the legal profession in the UK, you’d think SKS would read AR’s professional advice and put this to bed…
He thinks not reading the advice insulates him in case GMP or HMRC come up with something (pathetic isn't it?)In fact it just makes him look weaker and a bit more teflon / slippery than usual.
rscott said:
What electoral roll address issue? It's perfectly legal to be listed at two different addresses - https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/voting-and-...
It looks to me like that provision's intended to cover a scenario where people have two homes in different geographic areas? So if you live in (say) London but have a holiday home in Cornwall you can register and get a vote in the local elections for each; however, in Parliamentary elections and the like you can only vote once and hence you have to nominate which area you're going to vote in.However, the provision doesn't appear to be designed to cater for people who are looking to register for two homes in the same area that are only a mile apart. That would have been the situation for Angela Rayner but I can't imagine on what basis being registered twice in the same location would have been considered either necessary or appropriate?
However, if I understand correctly the accusation is not that she was registered twice, it's that she was registered at a house where she wasn't actually living - if so that's not the same thing at all!
President Merkin said:
Wombat3 said:
He thinks not reading the advice insulates him in case GMP or HMRC come up with something (pathetic isn't it?)
In fact it just makes him look weaker and a bit more teflon / slippery than usual.
Oh no, Labour have lost the Wombat vote. In fact it just makes him look weaker and a bit more teflon / slippery than usual.
Like I said, politicians, can't live with them, can't shoot them!
119 said:
Not really.It's either all part of a plot and Labour have gone all Enron or like any responsible employer they don't keep personal data any longer than they have to.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said:119 said:
Not really.It's either all part of a plot and Labour have gone all Enron or like any responsible employer they don't keep personal data any longer than they have to.
Legacywr said:
Having risen to the very top of the legal profession in the UK, you’d think SKS would read AR’s professional advice and put this to bed…
Im not sure DPP is the pinnacle of the legal profession.Possibly eventually becoming Supreme Court Judge may be considered the very top..
Wombat3 said:
Is she an employee?
It's the simplest word I could think of.The point is you don't keep peoples personal data unnecessarily.
If they've kept everyone else's except Rayners then fair enough it's a plot.
That isn't the same thing as not storing anyone's personal data longer than necessary.
Wombat3 said:
President Merkin said:
Wombat3 said:
He thinks not reading the advice insulates him in case GMP or HMRC come up with something (pathetic isn't it?)
In fact it just makes him look weaker and a bit more teflon / slippery than usual.
Oh no, Labour have lost the Wombat vote. In fact it just makes him look weaker and a bit more teflon / slippery than usual.
Like I said, politicians, can't live with them, can't shoot them!
JNW1 said:
rscott said:
What electoral roll address issue? It's perfectly legal to be listed at two different addresses - https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/voting-and-...
It looks to me like that provision's intended to cover a scenario where people have two homes in different geographic areas? So if you live in (say) London but have a holiday home in Cornwall you can register and get a vote in the local elections for each; however, in Parliamentary elections and the like you can only vote once and hence you have to nominate which area you're going to vote in.However, the provision doesn't appear to be designed to cater for people who are looking to register for two homes in the same area that are only a mile apart. That would have been the situation for Angela Rayner but I can't imagine on what basis being registered twice in the same location would have been considered either necessary or appropriate?
However, if I understand correctly the accusation is not that she was registered twice, it's that she was registered at a house where she wasn't actually living - if so that's not the same thing at all!
I don't recall having to nominate where I was going to vote - got polling cards at both and used whichever one I happened to be at
chrispmartha said:
Wombat3 said:
Like I said, politicians, can't live with them, can't shoot them!
Bit off that comment considering what’s happened to some politicians over the last few years.I use the same term about estate agents & assorted other professions that contrive to disappoint on a regular basis; but shall refrain from applying it again in this context.
rscott said:
I was registered at two different addresses for 2 years while a student.
I don't recall having to nominate where I was going to vote - got polling cards at both and used whichever one I happened to be at
Were those two different addresses in the same geographic location/local election ward?I don't recall having to nominate where I was going to vote - got polling cards at both and used whichever one I happened to be at
The link you posted says you will need to choose one address for things like Parliamentary elections; however, I've never needed to do that myself so if choosing is as loose as just voting at wherever you happen to be then fair enough.
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