"It's not against the law to be angry"
Discussion
Surprised no-one has mentioned Kenny Noye yet.
Same sort of likelihood of encountering a total nutter but perhaps a useful reminder that rebuking other drivers achieves nothing positive and is much more likely to result in some sort of retaliation. Particularly risky for women.
I'm with the idea of community service for the t
t. 500 hours clearing drains or something similarly pleasant.
Same sort of likelihood of encountering a total nutter but perhaps a useful reminder that rebuking other drivers achieves nothing positive and is much more likely to result in some sort of retaliation. Particularly risky for women.
I'm with the idea of community service for the t
t. 500 hours clearing drains or something similarly pleasant.272BHP said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
On what planet is this worth *prison*?
Prick needs to just be publically shamed as an absolute bell end. Honestly maybe put in the stocks. I honestly think it'd be awesome if sentences for this sort of disgraceful behaviour were stocks at a locally relevant event and you could chuck mouldy fruit and veg at them. It would be a nice marker of society's opprobrium for behaving ungentlemanlly.
But *prison* is ridiculous for a wee rant against a not particularly fragile lady from sound of it
Any suggestion of prison is of course ridiculous.Prick needs to just be publically shamed as an absolute bell end. Honestly maybe put in the stocks. I honestly think it'd be awesome if sentences for this sort of disgraceful behaviour were stocks at a locally relevant event and you could chuck mouldy fruit and veg at them. It would be a nice marker of society's opprobrium for behaving ungentlemanlly.
But *prison* is ridiculous for a wee rant against a not particularly fragile lady from sound of it
I would argue he has probably been punished enough. After all, this has been public shaming on an almost unimaginable scale. To see your own meltdown and that perfectly captured hateful visage splashed across the media must be excruciatingly painful. I don't have much hope for his mental state going forward that's for sure.
Fortunately the judge will take into account all information before making a ruling on punishment.
Although fortunately relatively uncommon Road Rage is a crime which can never not be tolerated.
stuthe said:
said: Great to see this type of behaviour held to account. What a small little man. I’d prefer 500hours community service picking litter though.
Unreal said:
I'm with the idea of community service for the tt. 500 hours clearing drains or something similarly pleasant.
500 hours seems excessive. The legislation only allows for up to 300 and that covers violence, sexual offences, robbery, weapons, etc.t. 500 hours clearing drains or something similarly pleasant.768 said:
stuthe said:
said: Great to see this type of behaviour held to account. What a small little man. I’d prefer 500hours community service picking litter though.
Unreal said:
I'm with the idea of community service for the tt. 500 hours clearing drains or something similarly pleasant.
500 hours seems excessive. The legislation only allows for up to 300 and that covers violence, sexual offences, robbery, weapons, etc.t. 500 hours clearing drains or something similarly pleasant.Unreal said:
Surprised no-one has mentioned Kenny Noye yet.
Same sort of likelihood of encountering a total nutter but perhaps a useful reminder that rebuking other drivers achieves nothing positive and is much more likely to result in some sort of retaliation. Particularly risky for women.
I'm with the idea of community service for the tt. 500 hours clearing drains or something similarly pleasant.
I think advising people not to use their horn because of Kenneth Noye is a bit ridiculous. #justsaying. Same sort of likelihood of encountering a total nutter but perhaps a useful reminder that rebuking other drivers achieves nothing positive and is much more likely to result in some sort of retaliation. Particularly risky for women.
I'm with the idea of community service for the t
t. 500 hours clearing drains or something similarly pleasant.heebeegeetee said:
Unreal said:
Surprised no-one has mentioned Kenny Noye yet.
Same sort of likelihood of encountering a total nutter but perhaps a useful reminder that rebuking other drivers achieves nothing positive and is much more likely to result in some sort of retaliation. Particularly risky for women.
I'm with the idea of community service for the tt. 500 hours clearing drains or something similarly pleasant.
I think advising people not to use their horn because of Kenneth Noye is a bit ridiculous. #justsaying. Same sort of likelihood of encountering a total nutter but perhaps a useful reminder that rebuking other drivers achieves nothing positive and is much more likely to result in some sort of retaliation. Particularly risky for women.
I'm with the idea of community service for the t
t. 500 hours clearing drains or something similarly pleasant.I do not scare easily but this guy was completely out of control. I've never seen someone go so red in the face before.
272BHP said:
Any suggestion of prison is of course ridiculous.
I would argue he has probably been punished enough. After all, this has been public shaming on an almost unimaginable scale. To see your own meltdown and that perfectly captured hateful visage splashed across the media must be excruciatingly painful. I don't have much hope for his mental state going forward that's for sure.
The problem is, he doesn't seem in the least bit ashamed about what's happened. 'It's not against the law to be angry' and variations on 'she was asking for it'. As I posted above, I'd be absolutely mortified in his shoes but he seems bizarrely defiant.I would argue he has probably been punished enough. After all, this has been public shaming on an almost unimaginable scale. To see your own meltdown and that perfectly captured hateful visage splashed across the media must be excruciatingly painful. I don't have much hope for his mental state going forward that's for sure.
I also think prison is the wrong way to go, but I also think he's quite likely to do something similar again, if not worse.
Slowboathome said:
The problem is, he doesn't seem in the least bit ashamed about what's happened. 'It's not against the law to be angry' and variations on 'she was asking for it'. As I posted above, I'd be absolutely mortified in his shoes but he seems bizarrely defiant.
I also think prison is the wrong way to go, but I also think he's quite likely to do something similar again, if not worse.
This.I also think prison is the wrong way to go, but I also think he's quite likely to do something similar again, if not worse.
If have no issues with a light penalty if he was the least bit apologetic or even took responsibility for it. A recognition that this was abnormal behaviour and he'd take some care not to repeat the mistake... After all, we all make mistakes.
However this guy is acting entitled, as if he had the right to be threatening.
I wouldn't go with prison, that would just cost us money and it's not like we have the room. However a large number of community service hours (50 is a large number given a work week is 37.5, and this guy would have to do it on weekends or take time off, 100 wouldn't be excessive though), a large fine and a year off the road.
I'd be amazed if he actually goes to prison, and disappointed given that people get suspended sentences and community service for dragging a person out of their car and beating them. Possibly she was just attempting to give him a bit of a scare for a few weeks, but I doubt he was bothered.
768 said:
stuthe said:
said: Great to see this type of behaviour held to account. What a small little man. I’d prefer 500hours community service picking litter though.
Unreal said:
I'm with the idea of community service for the tt. 500 hours clearing drains or something similarly pleasant.
500 hours seems excessive. The legislation only allows for up to 300 and that covers violence, sexual offences, robbery, weapons, etc.t. 500 hours clearing drains or something similarly pleasant.heebeegeetee said:
Unreal said:
Surprised no-one has mentioned Kenny Noye yet.
Same sort of likelihood of encountering a total nutter but perhaps a useful reminder that rebuking other drivers achieves nothing positive and is much more likely to result in some sort of retaliation. Particularly risky for women.
I'm with the idea of community service for the tt. 500 hours clearing drains or something similarly pleasant.
I think advising people not to use their horn because of Kenneth Noye is a bit ridiculous. #justsaying. Same sort of likelihood of encountering a total nutter but perhaps a useful reminder that rebuking other drivers achieves nothing positive and is much more likely to result in some sort of retaliation. Particularly risky for women.
I'm with the idea of community service for the t
t. 500 hours clearing drains or something similarly pleasant.Question of whether it's worth it and how well you can handle any consequences. Only the person involved can make that judgement. I doubt the lady in question will be doing too much rebuking in the future, whatever the final outcome of the case.
Muzzer79 said:
The article also reads as though he defended himself in court.
Which says a lot
That was my take on it too. If he'd turned up at court with a brief, pleaded guilty and made a contrite and genuine apology through his brief he'd probably be looking at a slap on the wrist. Which says a lot
As it is he's turned up at court seemingly defending himself, argued, lost and is going to get his arse handed to him on a plate.
Something tells me that this bloke is, you know, a little unhinged.
beagrizzly said:
I'm late to the thread, so apologies if this has already been covered:
His behaviour is clearly abhorrent, but I am not sure what law he has broken? Just my ignorance, in all likelihood, please help educate....
Section 4 of the Public Order Act 1986 establishes an offence of fear of provocation of violence by threatening words or behaviour. His behaviour is clearly abhorrent, but I am not sure what law he has broken? Just my ignorance, in all likelihood, please help educate....
vaud said:
beagrizzly said:
I'm late to the thread, so apologies if this has already been covered:
His behaviour is clearly abhorrent, but I am not sure what law he has broken? Just my ignorance, in all likelihood, please help educate....
Section 4 of the Public Order Act 1986 establishes an offence of fear of provocation of violence by threatening words or behaviour. His behaviour is clearly abhorrent, but I am not sure what law he has broken? Just my ignorance, in all likelihood, please help educate....
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/33/secti...
vaud said:
beagrizzly said:
I'm late to the thread, so apologies if this has already been covered:
His behaviour is clearly abhorrent, but I am not sure what law he has broken? Just my ignorance, in all likelihood, please help educate....
Section 4 of the Public Order Act 1986 establishes an offence of fear of provocation of violence by threatening words or behaviour. His behaviour is clearly abhorrent, but I am not sure what law he has broken? Just my ignorance, in all likelihood, please help educate....
Do the sentencing guidelines include custodial sentences? Seems excessive, but perhaps not for me to say.
beagrizzly said:
Thanks. Every day's a school day! I can think of a couple of drivers I could have reported for similar actions.
Do the sentencing guidelines include custodial sentences? Seems excessive, but perhaps not for me to say.
Sentencing guidelines:Do the sentencing guidelines include custodial sentences? Seems excessive, but perhaps not for me to say.
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magi...
beagrizzly said:
vaud said:
beagrizzly said:
I'm late to the thread, so apologies if this has already been covered:
His behaviour is clearly abhorrent, but I am not sure what law he has broken? Just my ignorance, in all likelihood, please help educate....
Section 4 of the Public Order Act 1986 establishes an offence of fear of provocation of violence by threatening words or behaviour. His behaviour is clearly abhorrent, but I am not sure what law he has broken? Just my ignorance, in all likelihood, please help educate....
Do the sentencing guidelines include custodial sentences? Seems excessive, but perhaps not for me to say.
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