Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?
Discussion
smn159 said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Labour got a 150+ seat majority when they last got into No10. Didn't stop them from being being soundly kicked out in the last GE, did it?
And so we will continue with ongoing farce, that is the UK political scene with tribalists, STILL believing that when `their' party gets in it will all be better. Clue! It will not.
You should definitely vote Reform and encourage all of your friends to do so And so we will continue with ongoing farce, that is the UK political scene with tribalists, STILL believing that when `their' party gets in it will all be better. Clue! It will not.
S600BSB said:
smn159 said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Labour got a 150+ seat majority when they last got into No10. Didn't stop them from being being soundly kicked out in the last GE, did it?
And so we will continue with ongoing farce, that is the UK political scene with tribalists, STILL believing that when `their' party gets in it will all be better. Clue! It will not.
You should definitely vote Reform and encourage all of your friends to do so And so we will continue with ongoing farce, that is the UK political scene with tribalists, STILL believing that when `their' party gets in it will all be better. Clue! It will not.
"Senior" Tory suggests a move to "unite the right" is the best way forward now with MPs standing for the Conservatives and Reform 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=ClzxIbl76ZDBguz7
(Warning, video is GB News if you don't want to spoil your internet footprint - the Reform comment is at 08:55)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=ClzxIbl76ZDBguz7
(Warning, video is GB News if you don't want to spoil your internet footprint - the Reform comment is at 08:55)
Edited by thetapeworm on Tuesday 7th May 17:03
thetapeworm said:
"Senior" Tory suggests a move to "unite the right" is the best way forward now with MPs standing for the Conservatives and Reform
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=ClzxIbl76ZDBguz7
(Warning, video is GB News if you don't want to spoil your internet footprint - the Reform comment is at 08:55)
I will not bother watching it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=ClzxIbl76ZDBguz7
(Warning, video is GB News if you don't want to spoil your internet footprint - the Reform comment is at 08:55)
Edited by thetapeworm on Tuesday 7th May 17:03
Andrea Jenkins....It does not require much calibre to become a Senior Tory these days, does it?
S600BSB said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Still makes me laugh when you think we fell that low under Johnson that Jenkyns was an education minister whilst quite literally giving the public the middle finger.
Vile.
Like Truss, seems to have mental health issues. Go easy. Vile.
Pan Pan Pan said:
Only in your microscopically tiny mind. You have just made my point for me. Do you really go through life believing that everyone else thinks or must think the same as you do?
I don’t think you understood either my post or indeed the point you think I’m making for you. Never mind! bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Still makes me laugh when you think we fell that low under Johnson that Jenkyns was an education minister whilst quite literally giving the public the middle finger.
Vile.
Some people inappropriately the word literally. You're using it appropriately.Vile.
Unfortunately she did so among such a s
t show of incompetence that it was barely noticed.TTwiggy said:
Why is there nobody in the Tory party saying 'No. Enough of this st. Just FRO.'?
If you have to ask you'll never learn.t. Just FRO.'?Joke.
They're a party that know they're screwed and have thrown all the intelligent ones off the ship in defence of glorious brexit/boris. They're done. A zombie. A walking corpse. It's now just a case of how long they can keep the swindle going. There's no longer a long enough timeline for real policy change in any direction between now and whenever they decide to have an election. Meanwhile people's problems continue while our overlords play politics.
z4RRSchris said:
TTwiggy said:
Why is there nobody in the Tory party saying 'No. Enough of this st. Just FRO.'?
they all left when boris cleared out the party of anyone sensible t. Just FRO.'?t crazy and lap this stuff up.I suspect that the most rabid of them live in a bubble of continual reinforcement and genuinely think that this is what the country wants more of.
TTwiggy said:
Why is there nobody in the Tory party saying 'No. Enough of this st. Just FRO.'?
I do think that is a reasonable question. amongst Tory MPs the right wing loons are still a minority - say 60/70. Why doesn’t the sensible(ish) majority - say people like Tobias Ellwood - tell the idiots to shut up and ft. Just FRO.'?k off to Reform or something?smn159 said:
This plus the members are all batst crazy and lap this stuff up.
I suspect that the most rabid of them live in a bubble of continual reinforcement and genuinely think that this is what the country wants more of.
The party membership is what it is. They're not all rabid but taken as an average they're not representative of the population.t crazy and lap this stuff up.I suspect that the most rabid of them live in a bubble of continual reinforcement and genuinely think that this is what the country wants more of.
These days to be a fully signed up member to any party you have to be a bit of a loon/zealot and are unlikely to be representative of the huge amount of people who aren't. It's up to party management to deal with that. Labour failed with Corbyn's support, Tories failed with Truss's support. It's an all party problem.
I don't think they're all bats
t crazy but they do live in a bubble of positive feedback on their opinions. Meanwhile everyone else thinks they're nuts because their bubble disagrees. So you get ridiculous polarisation. But the tories are a busted flush, reform aren't offering an alternative and labour are going to win the next election, ideally not in hock to the more mad ideas of their membership.smn159 said:
This plus the members are all batst crazy and lap this stuff up.
I suspect that the most rabid of them live in a bubble of continual reinforcement and genuinely think that this is what the country wants more of.
From what I've read yes. MPs described as sensible, grown ups on here are viewed (by members) as Lib dems, new labour, greens all in the wrong party. The quicker they leave the quicker they'll bounce back in the polls. t crazy and lap this stuff up.I suspect that the most rabid of them live in a bubble of continual reinforcement and genuinely think that this is what the country wants more of.
susan hall was selected as candidate by the 20,000 london tory members.
to even sign up, pay the money, to be part of the “party” is pretty weird. i know 1 mate only who’s signed up to anything.
narrow it down and you start to get tiny numbers of local tory busybodies selecting MPs. the same kind who love to be on the parish council and tell people what to do.
ditto any other party.
to even sign up, pay the money, to be part of the “party” is pretty weird. i know 1 mate only who’s signed up to anything.
narrow it down and you start to get tiny numbers of local tory busybodies selecting MPs. the same kind who love to be on the parish council and tell people what to do.
ditto any other party.
CivicDuties said:
The left hates the working class. The hate the white working class even more and if you are a white working class man, well, you are bottom of the barrel.I would assume that additional social media clout points were awarded to this twitter poster as a result.
Nationalism is like caffeine, only a small shot of it is optimal but once its ejected from government policy, it gives parties like Reform too much oxygen.
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