Your questions answered Vol 2 - IM Private Clients

Your questions answered Vol 2 - IM Private Clients

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Car bon

4,681 posts

65 months

Thursday 4th April
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Grey_Area said:
And now the question, I'm looking at full retirement in around 3 years time, have a pension pot, and an ISA pot.

I'll be taking the ISA pot first most likely after chatting with Nik some time ago, with an intention of taking it down to pretty much zero.
Be careful that you're not letting a zero tax band go to waste..... Depending on whether you have other income sources, it might be beneficial to take some pension money. Worth double checking with Nik when you are fixed on dates.

Grey_Area

3,999 posts

254 months

Thursday 4th April
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Car bon said:
Grey_Area said:
And now the question, I'm looking at full retirement in around 3 years time, have a pension pot, and an ISA pot.

I'll be taking the ISA pot first most likely after chatting with Nik some time ago, with an intention of taking it down to pretty much zero.
Be careful that you're not letting a zero tax band go to waste..... Depending on whether you have other income sources, it might be beneficial to take some pension money. Worth double checking with Nik when you are fixed on dates.
Thanks, and understood; there's already a company pension in the mix, roughly 30k/yr. hence no real concerns about running down to zero.

eldar

21,872 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th April
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Another quickie, how do I move the cash in my GIA to a fund in my ISA. I thought I knew how, but I'm not sure thanks.

PM3

720 posts

61 months

Thursday 4th April
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eldar said:
Another quickie, how do I move the cash in my GIA to a fund in my ISA. I thought I knew how, but I'm not sure thanks.
Read my Post of 29th March 2024 ( explained by example, ad-nauseum )

eldar

21,872 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th April
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PM3 said:
eldar said:
Another quickie, how do I move the cash in my GIA to a fund in my ISA. I thought I knew how, but I'm not sure thanks.
Read my Post of 29th March 2024 ( explained by example, ad-nauseum )
Thanks, appreciated.

Simpo Two

85,770 posts

266 months

Thursday 4th April
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AdamIM said:
Just running some pre end of tax year maintenance-valuations will update shortly smile
Put all the income and gains on April 31st, there's a good chap nuts

JulianPH

9,941 posts

115 months

Friday 5th April
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Grey_Area said:
Apologies if this has been covered before, but the PH search function isnt great, and my Google foo appears to run a Null search on the subject.

And now the question, I'm looking at full retirement in around 3 years time, have a pension pot, and an ISA pot.

I'll be taking the ISA pot first most likely after chatting with Nik some time ago, with an intention of taking it down to pretty much zero. Now, is there a method by which I can do this on a regular monthly basis for a set sum per month, without incurring any issues, costs arbitary timescale problems etc?

Take it for given that I'd need 2k/month on the 3rd of each and every month till the funds run dry.

TIA.
Hi Grey_Area, I've just had a look at my own account as I assumed that there would be an 'income payment' option for ISAs (just as with pensions) but I can't see one!

Let me ask the geeks as I must be missing something obvious!

Cheers

Julian

Grey_Area

3,999 posts

254 months

Saturday 6th April
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JulianPH said:
Hi Grey_Area, I've just had a look at my own account as I assumed that there would be an 'income payment' option for ISAs (just as with pensions) but I can't see one!

Let me ask the geeks as I must be missing something obvious!

Cheers

Julian
Cheers Julian

Mr Pointy

11,327 posts

160 months

Saturday 6th April
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Own up, who has made their 2024/25 ISA & SIPP contributions already?

PM3

720 posts

61 months

Saturday 6th April
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Mr Pointy said:
Own up, who has made their 2024/25 ISA & SIPP contributions already?
Not me yet , waiting for IM to wake up Monday morning .
Same every year , fill ISA and my unearned limit on SIPP straight away, No reason to wait

pingu393

7,895 posts

206 months

Tuesday 9th April
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PM3 said:
Same every year , fill ... my unearned limit on SIPP straight away, No reason to wait
That makes a lot of sense.

I usually leave it till later in the year and base it on my year-to-date profit, so I don't over reach. As you say, you can put £2880 in on 6th April with no worries at all.

I shall do it now.

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JerryEXE

528 posts

100 months

Wednesday 10th April
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Mr Pointy said:
Own up, who has made their 2024/25 ISA & SIPP contributions already?
27 minutes on the phone with the HSBC fraud team earlier today going through their box ticking exercise to demonstrate that my ISA contribution was legit. I accept that things have to be set for the lowest common denominator but it was difficult to remain calm … the guy on the other end of the line didn’t even know what an ISA was … if I hadn’t called them I would have thought I was being scammed furious. Got there in the end though.

pingu393

7,895 posts

206 months

Wednesday 10th April
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Mr Pointy said:
Own up, who has made their 2024/25 ISA & SIPP contributions already?
I was lucky. I was halfway through a GIA withdrawal, so had a spare £2880 in GIA Cash. I used the transfer to SIPP / ISA function, and it was in my SIPP within a few hours. HMRC can make up the other £720. smile

My GIA is now empty, but if it weren't, there would be upto £20k heading towards my ISA.

2Btoo

3,440 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th April
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What's the relevance of the £2880 figure?

markiii

3,650 posts

195 months

Thursday 11th April
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£3600 limit - the 20% tax credit

2Btoo

3,440 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th April
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markiii said:
£3600 limit - the 20% tax credit
Sounds good, thanks. Although I still don't quite follow.

Mr Pointy

11,327 posts

160 months

Thursday 11th April
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2Btoo said:
markiii said:
£3600 limit - the 20% tax credit
Sounds good, thanks. Although I still don't quite follow.
If you don't have any relevant income then you can still contribute £2880 net/£3600 gross into a pension. If you have relevant income but are subject to the MPAA then you can contribute £10,000 gross/£8000 net.

Jasey_

4,921 posts

179 months

Thursday 11th April
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https://www.gov.uk/tax-on-your-private-pension/pen...

If you do not pay Income Tax
You still automatically get tax relief at 20% on the first £2,880 you pay into a pension each tax year (6 April to 5 April) if both of the following apply to you:

you do not pay Income Tax, for example because you’re on a low income
your pension provider claims tax relief for you at a rate of 20% (relief at source)

PM3

720 posts

61 months

Thursday 11th April
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2Btoo said:
markiii said:
£3600 limit - the 20% tax credit
Sounds good, thanks. Although I still don't quite follow.
I brought up the matter so I will take the hit. Its very simple

I ( for example ) have zero income that is deemed relevant by HMRC that can be put into a pension ( such as my SIPP )

HOWEVER , the stupid government, god bless them , has deemed it a good idea that I can add every tax year £3600 to my SIPP and this is applicable for 20% basic tax relief ( keep up here, remember I have no relevant earnings and pay no income tax )

20% of 3600 is 720..... so , I simply put £2800 of my other money into my SIPP and the idiots give me £720 for nothing , funded by others . I typically do this beginning of tax year and they give me the little bonus around June

Pretty good huh

Car bon

4,681 posts

65 months

Thursday 11th April
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It's not usually quite as good as it sounds though..... Of the 3600, you can take 25% (900) tax free & the other 2700 is taxed at your marginal rate. So if you're a 20% tax payer, you're taxed 540. So your 'free' 720 is then 'only' a free 180.

Once you reach normal retirement age, most people who can afford to be putting 2880 into a SIPP now, are likely to be at least basic rate tax payers - but there are exceptions.

It's still free money for the moment - under current tax rules.