Could you survive a fall into water....

Could you survive a fall into water....

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TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

251 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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If you went in feet first, would you not just completely shatter your legs?


AngryS3Owner

15,855 posts

230 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Cara Van Man said:
AngryS3Owner said:
however I'd be trying to go in feet (toes) first.
you are joking right?

You do realise how much a broken toe hurts?
I was thinking you're not going to survive anyway but it'd be better than breaking all your fingers heading head first! I imagine you'd end up at quite a depth if you did hit the water at 130mph and survive.

thewave

14,718 posts

210 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Feet first
Cross them at the ankles and hold them VERY tight
hands held as tight to the body as possible protecting the crotch area
If you fell ever so slightly forward you'd probably destroy your nob, thus on impact letting out a cry of pain (not helpful when you need to hold your breath prior to entry)
I would expect you do break your legs in any case
You may not be able to hold your breath long enough to get to the surface either

But that'd be my plan.

scorp

8,783 posts

230 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Heskey said:
On Braniac they showed dropping a barrel from various heights caused more damage to the barrel and less penetration of the water, the higher it was dropped.

So I would agree, throw something first to break water tension!
Not sure it's water tension (surface tension?) that makes it hard, more waters ability to resist shock.

Edited by scorp on Wednesday 23 July 12:12

panhandle

48 posts

190 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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DoubleYellow said:
A woman fell 36,000 feet from a plane and survived. She landed in a rainforest. If I remember correctly, she didn't break any bones. Just cuts and bruises. That really is some feat when you think about the logistics of it!

I imagine 10,000 feet into water would have the same impact as concrete. I would say guaranteed death. There aren't any factors that could come into it because of the plain suface (not like you could aim for something to break your fall).

However, i would go for feet first if I had to make the decision.
if it's the same story im thinking of, she was parachuting. and her chute didnt open correctly. and her reserve chute, when released, tangled with the original chute. so she still had SOME drag behind her to slow her down, and yeah, she landed in a tree, thus avoiding any horrifically solid ground landing. however she did break some bones, as well as standard issue cuts/bruises etc.

lucky bugger!

Cara Van Man

29,977 posts

252 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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I'd hope I was in the seat next to a member of the Chinese National Circus and try to learn Mandarin on the way down.

bigTee

5,546 posts

222 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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You need to collect as many sick bags as you can and make a sort of Inspector Gadget parachute.

thewave

14,718 posts

210 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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hornetrider said:
Ever done a belly flop from a 3 metre diving platform? It hurts! Now imagine hitting the water at 150 mph! Virtually no chance of survival I would have thought.
This is exactly right, i've dived off a high board and got it ever so slightly wrong as I tried to arch upwards to early after entering the water, nearly broke my back!

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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IThere's also the possibility that if you didn't die on impact, you'd go so deep you might end up suffering from the bends and die anyway? Oh the irony! Woohoo! I'm alive!! Oh, hang on, what's that funny feeling...

DrTre

12,955 posts

233 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Curl into a ball while screaming:

"BOMBS AWAY!!!!"

eightseventhree

2,196 posts

205 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Aircraft have very little chance of doing a water landing without killing a lot of people let alone jumping out of one.


touching cloth

11,706 posts

240 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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AngryS3Owner said:
Cara Van Man said:
AngryS3Owner said:
however I'd be trying to go in feet (toes) first.
you are joking right?

You do realise how much a broken toe hurts?
I was thinking you're not going to survive anyway but it'd be better than breaking all your fingers heading head first! I imagine you'd end up at quite a depth if you did hit the water at 130mph and survive.
Methinks Nick was yanking your plonker yes

172ff

3,677 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Heskey said:
On Braniac they showed dropping a barrel from various heights caused more damage to the barrel and less penetration of the water, the higher it was dropped.

So I would agree, throw something first to break water tension!
Good god man. Do you not watch Mythbusters? They've done that and it was: Myth Busted time.

Davi

17,153 posts

221 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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thewave said:
Feet first
Cross them at the ankles and hold them VERY tight
hands held as tight to the body as possible protecting the crotch area
If you fell ever so slightly forward you'd probably destroy your nob , thus on impact letting out a cry of pain (not helpful when you need to hold your breath prior to entry)
I would expect you do break your legs in any case
You may not be able to hold your breath long enough to get to the surface either

But that'd be my plan.
whereas using your plan you'd get to discover what it felt like to be anally intruded by several thousand gallons of water. Unless you have a seriously strong sphincter. Which if you are heading toward a large body of water at 130mph I doubt would be the case.

craggers

2,496 posts

285 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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I'll just wait till the plane get lower and just drop off - can't see what wrong tongue out

Fume troll

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213 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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wikipedia said:
JAT stewardess Vesna Vuloviæ survived a fall of 33,000 feet (over 10,000 meters)[1] on January 26, 1972 when she was thrown from JAT Flight 364. The plane was brought down by explosives planted by Croatian (Ustashe) terrorists over Srbská Kamenice in the former Czechoslovakia (now Czech Republic). The Serbian stewardess suffered a broken skull, three broken vertebrae, one crushed completely, and was in a coma for 27 days. In an interview she commented that, according to the man who found her, "...I was in the middle part of the plane. I was found with my head down and my colleague on top of me. One part of my body with my leg was in the plane and my head was out of the plane. A catering trolley was pinned against my spine and kept me in the plane. The man who found me, says I was very lucky. He was with Hitler's troops as a medic during the War. He was German. He knew how to treat me at the site of the accident." [2]

In World War II there were several reports of military aircrew surviving long falls: Nick Alkemade, Alan Magee, and I.M.Chisov all fell at least 5,500 meters and survived.

Freefall is not to be confused with individuals who survive instances of various degrees of controlled flight into terrain. Such impact forces affecting these instances of survival, differ from the forces which are characterized by free fall.

It was reported that two of the victims of the Lockerbie bombing survived for a brief period after hitting the ground (with the forward nose section fuselage in freefall mode), but died from their injuries before help arrived.[3]
Cheers,

FT.

ludo

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205 months

touching cloth

11,706 posts

240 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Davi said:
thewave said:
Feet first
Cross them at the ankles and hold them VERY tight
hands held as tight to the body as possible protecting the crotch area
If you fell ever so slightly forward you'd probably destroy your nob , thus on impact letting out a cry of pain (not helpful when you need to hold your breath prior to entry)
I would expect you do break your legs in any case
You may not be able to hold your breath long enough to get to the surface either

But that'd be my plan.
whereas using your plan you'd get to discover what it felt like to be anally intruded by several thousand gallons of water. Unless you have a seriously strong sphincter. Which if you are heading toward a large body of water at 130mph I doubt would be the case.
rofl

HRG

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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thewave said:
Feet first
Cross them at the ankles and hold them VERY tight
hands held as tight to the body as possible protecting the crotch area
If you fell ever so slightly forward you'd probably destroy your nob, thus on impact letting out a cry of pain (not helpful when you need to hold your breath prior to entry)
I would expect you do break your legs in any case
You may not be able to hold your breath long enough to get to the surface either

But that'd be my plan.
Have you ever been on the near vertical water slide in Tenerriffe? It took me a week to find my trunks and that's with my legs crossed very tightly yes

panhandle

48 posts

190 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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TonyHetherington said:
If you went in feet first, would you not just completely shatter your legs?
yep. hitting water at speed, from a height, is often comparable to hitting solid ground.