Funeral Crew. Go on - ask away!
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ARHarh said:
No they are Welsh https://www.ijacksonandsonsfunerals.co.uk/, they are also https://www.wepricefuneraldirectors.co.uk/ in England though.
Ah I know them too. Rockets7 said:
dirky dirk said:
I’d like to know the bit after your bit?
The cremation. What happens once the curtains closed
Easy oneThe cremation. What happens once the curtains closed
Curtains close, coffin and contents descend a short lift shaft normally. Authority to burn from coroner will be in place (and checked) coffin and contents enters one of the oven/s pretty much immediately. Burn for prescribed length of time (dependant on tumours and metalwork in body etc). Purge of oven on completion (you get the correct ashes).
Flowers are normally placed outside somewhere discrete, large closed box etc.
Next one down, repeat.
J4CKO said:
Rockets7 said:
dirky dirk said:
I’d like to know the bit after your bit?
The cremation. What happens once the curtains closed
Easy oneThe cremation. What happens once the curtains closed
Curtains close, coffin and contents descend a short lift shaft normally. Authority to burn from coroner will be in place (and checked) coffin and contents enters one of the oven/s pretty much immediately. Burn for prescribed length of time (dependant on tumours and metalwork in body etc). Purge of oven on completion (you get the correct ashes).
Flowers are normally placed outside somewhere discrete, large closed box etc.
Next one down, repeat.
The Mad Monk said:
cmvtec said:
I have mentioned to my other half, and in the grand scheme of things it isn't that important, but when you're paying nearly five figures for funeral arrangements you'd expect better.
Best part of ten grand for a funeral!What were you doing?
You can get a cremation at Hanworth for three hundred odd pounds.
It was particularly jarring to be charged £20 to visit the chapel of rest.
Other than the cars, the whole thing was well orchestrated and very lovely, though.
cmvtec said:
There were a few extras as such, but it wasn't particularly lavish. She was a florist so a fair bit went on flowers. I didn't organise it. I paid my share, though.
It was particularly jarring to be charged £20 to visit the chapel of rest.
Other than the cars, the whole thing was well orchestrated and very lovely, though.
Well, you don't seem excessively bothered at paying the best part of £10K for a funersl, so why should I be?It was particularly jarring to be charged £20 to visit the chapel of rest.
Other than the cars, the whole thing was well orchestrated and very lovely, though.
However I would still be interested in seeing the breakdown, if only approximate - sorry!
Not a question but an interesting story that's 100% true.
There was once an outlaw who was so bad at crime that he always wound up making a loss. In March 1911, this chap, Elmer McCurdy, boarded a train, intent on cracking the safe on board and stealing the $4,000 worth of silver coin inside. Using far too much dynamite, he managed to weld all the coins together into an immovable lump. When the train arrived in Kansas City, Elmer and friends ran away...with just an ill-gotten $450.
Come the following October, Elmer found himself shouting. "You'll never take me alive!" to a Sheriff's posse near Pawhuska. Oklahoma. Obligingly, they shot him dead. He was taken to Pawhuska and put in a wicker coffin...
At TheJohnson Funeral Home, where the posse identified the body, the undertaker decided he'd have to keep the unclaimed body for while so he got to work embalming it. Six months later, nobody had come forward for Elmer. He was put on show in a standing position as, The Embalmed Bandit.' He was dressed in the clothes he'd worn when killed and 'given' a rifle. He stood there for five years.
In 1916, two men, who ran a street carnival conned the body out of the undertaker and Elmer went on the road, until 1976! He crossed and recrossed the USA appearing variously as,among other things, 'The 1,000 Year Old Man'. Not bad at 60 years post mortem!
In 1976, filming of an epsiode of 'The Six Million Dollar Man' was in progress.During setting up, a teamster (movie roadie) spotted a figure hanging in the ghost train-type ride that was the location...
Curious, the teamster tried moving one of the figure's arms. It snapped off and bones inside revealed that this was no stuffed dummy in Dayglo paint. Yes, it was Elmer. A post mortem examination was carried out...
This led to the discovery of two ironies in Elmer's story. Inside, his throat, they found a 1924 penny and ticket stubs marked, 'Louis Sonney's Museum of Crime, 521 S. Main Street, Los Angeles'. This led to further investigation that showed that from his death at age 31, Elmer's new career had lasted 65 years, 6 months and 16 days. During this time, he 'earned' far more than he ever stole.
There's a happy ending of sorts. Elmer was given a great send off...
Elmer's remains were taken to the Smith Funeral Home in Guthrie, Oklahoma,from which he was transported, by car, and placed in the black, glass-sided hearse. The funeral procession, which included only horse-drawn vehicles and horseback riders, made its way to the cemetery, with dignity and a sombre style.
He was laid to rest in the Boot Hill section of Summit View Cemetery, Guthrie . In the plot by the side of Elmer's plot lies none other than Bill Doolan, the outlaw whose waxwork was displayed with Elmer's body in the 'Museum of Crime'
A single red rose was dropped on Elmer's coffin; symbolic handfuls of earth were cast into the grave. These were followed by two-and-a-half cubic yards of concrete, poured from a Dolese cement lorry. In accordance with the State Medical Examiner's orders, Elmer would never be disturbed again.
I suspect this last was not so much about subsequent disturbances as public safety
The remaining irony is that the undertaker had embalmed Elmer by using arsenic so it's conceivable he damaged quite a few sideshow cutomers.
There was once an outlaw who was so bad at crime that he always wound up making a loss. In March 1911, this chap, Elmer McCurdy, boarded a train, intent on cracking the safe on board and stealing the $4,000 worth of silver coin inside. Using far too much dynamite, he managed to weld all the coins together into an immovable lump. When the train arrived in Kansas City, Elmer and friends ran away...with just an ill-gotten $450.
Come the following October, Elmer found himself shouting. "You'll never take me alive!" to a Sheriff's posse near Pawhuska. Oklahoma. Obligingly, they shot him dead. He was taken to Pawhuska and put in a wicker coffin...
At TheJohnson Funeral Home, where the posse identified the body, the undertaker decided he'd have to keep the unclaimed body for while so he got to work embalming it. Six months later, nobody had come forward for Elmer. He was put on show in a standing position as, The Embalmed Bandit.' He was dressed in the clothes he'd worn when killed and 'given' a rifle. He stood there for five years.
In 1916, two men, who ran a street carnival conned the body out of the undertaker and Elmer went on the road, until 1976! He crossed and recrossed the USA appearing variously as,among other things, 'The 1,000 Year Old Man'. Not bad at 60 years post mortem!
In 1976, filming of an epsiode of 'The Six Million Dollar Man' was in progress.During setting up, a teamster (movie roadie) spotted a figure hanging in the ghost train-type ride that was the location...
Curious, the teamster tried moving one of the figure's arms. It snapped off and bones inside revealed that this was no stuffed dummy in Dayglo paint. Yes, it was Elmer. A post mortem examination was carried out...
This led to the discovery of two ironies in Elmer's story. Inside, his throat, they found a 1924 penny and ticket stubs marked, 'Louis Sonney's Museum of Crime, 521 S. Main Street, Los Angeles'. This led to further investigation that showed that from his death at age 31, Elmer's new career had lasted 65 years, 6 months and 16 days. During this time, he 'earned' far more than he ever stole.
There's a happy ending of sorts. Elmer was given a great send off...
Elmer's remains were taken to the Smith Funeral Home in Guthrie, Oklahoma,from which he was transported, by car, and placed in the black, glass-sided hearse. The funeral procession, which included only horse-drawn vehicles and horseback riders, made its way to the cemetery, with dignity and a sombre style.
He was laid to rest in the Boot Hill section of Summit View Cemetery, Guthrie . In the plot by the side of Elmer's plot lies none other than Bill Doolan, the outlaw whose waxwork was displayed with Elmer's body in the 'Museum of Crime'
A single red rose was dropped on Elmer's coffin; symbolic handfuls of earth were cast into the grave. These were followed by two-and-a-half cubic yards of concrete, poured from a Dolese cement lorry. In accordance with the State Medical Examiner's orders, Elmer would never be disturbed again.
I suspect this last was not so much about subsequent disturbances as public safety
The remaining irony is that the undertaker had embalmed Elmer by using arsenic so it's conceivable he damaged quite a few sideshow cutomers.
A question re burial plots if anyone can shed light please.
My Mum’s first husband (was a dispatch rider and died as a result of a motorbike accident) was buried in a plot and my Mum said there was room for 4 more. She assumed that it would be her, my Dad and my sister and I.
Well as things turned out my Dad did not believe in burial so my Mum was cremated as was my Dad and my sister passed away in the USA.
I only went to look at the grave after my Dad passed as it did not seem right to do it whilst he was alive.
Anyway enough background. I have the deeds to the land of the burial plot. I know most entitlements are on line now but the paper deeds are my family history.
I read previously in this thread about the right to bury for a certain length of time after which it could be revoked and the person reburied elsewhere and someone else could be buried in that plot.
Do you think that would apply in this case where I have the deeds of ownership the the plot. This thread has got me wondering about it and maybe do something to continue the ownership.
My Mum’s first husband (was a dispatch rider and died as a result of a motorbike accident) was buried in a plot and my Mum said there was room for 4 more. She assumed that it would be her, my Dad and my sister and I.
Well as things turned out my Dad did not believe in burial so my Mum was cremated as was my Dad and my sister passed away in the USA.
I only went to look at the grave after my Dad passed as it did not seem right to do it whilst he was alive.
Anyway enough background. I have the deeds to the land of the burial plot. I know most entitlements are on line now but the paper deeds are my family history.
I read previously in this thread about the right to bury for a certain length of time after which it could be revoked and the person reburied elsewhere and someone else could be buried in that plot.
Do you think that would apply in this case where I have the deeds of ownership the the plot. This thread has got me wondering about it and maybe do something to continue the ownership.
If I’m not in fact dead, perhaps was just a very deep coma, what is the appropriate etiquette?
At which point should I knock on the inside of the lid?
Is it considered rude to shout out during the actual ceremony?
Should I wait until its just the professional service providers (such as yourself) can hear my cries?
Or best just to keep quiet and accept one’s fate rather than cause a fuss and the related distress, embarrassment etc.etc…?
Professional advice please.
At which point should I knock on the inside of the lid?
Is it considered rude to shout out during the actual ceremony?
Should I wait until its just the professional service providers (such as yourself) can hear my cries?
Or best just to keep quiet and accept one’s fate rather than cause a fuss and the related distress, embarrassment etc.etc…?
Professional advice please.
anonymous said:
[redacted]
Thanks a lot for your reply. It was really useful. It was well before 1974. My only sibling has passed away a few years ago so no issue there. I did not realise that ashes could be put in a burial plot. Very useful to know. I will now look into contacting the management.
Thanks once again.
Bringing back an old thread to ask - what licence is needed to drive a hearse or funeral limousine?
I am considering a possible change of career at the moment and funeral work is something I am interested in. I need to know driving requirements from those in the know if possible, as a medical issue may prevent me adding extra categories to my car licence. Many thanks if anyone can help.
I am considering a possible change of career at the moment and funeral work is something I am interested in. I need to know driving requirements from those in the know if possible, as a medical issue may prevent me adding extra categories to my car licence. Many thanks if anyone can help.
Thankyou for the quick reply! I have a full and clean licence (that's put the curse on it, you watch!) but I have nocturnal epilepsy and am on meds for it, although at the time of typing I am seizure-free for nearly nine years, so I don't think that will affect my application. Thanks again.
shed driver said:
Normal car licence. Some firms won't entertain you if you have more than three points or a spent drink or dangerous driving conviction.
SD.
Why do you put SD at the bottom of each of your posts?SD.
We know it's from shed driver, because it says 'shed driver' in the left hand column.
Alickadoo said:
shed driver said:
Normal car licence. Some firms won't entertain you if you have more than three points or a spent drink or dangerous driving conviction.
SD.
Why do you put SD at the bottom of each of your posts?SD.
We know it's from shed driver, because it says 'shed driver' in the left hand column.
TX.
Sycamore said:
Alickadoo said:
shed driver said:
Normal car licence. Some firms won't entertain you if you have more than three points or a spent drink or dangerous driving conviction.
SD.
Why do you put SD at the bottom of each of your posts?SD.
We know it's from shed driver, because it says 'shed driver' in the left hand column.
TX.
shed driver said:
I put a sign on my posts as a throwback to bulletin boards and very early fora. O/T but does anyone remember the days of graphical signatures? Loads of animated gifts making pages take an age to load up on 56K dial up?
SD.
Slightly o/t and possibly one for the cringe thread if it was still around. I saw a link to a Porsche forum from here the other day and I noticed they still had 'signatures' on there, text only. Most people just had theirs as their car e.g "2012 Porsche 911 C4S in Agate Grey" but one chap had:SD.
2022 911 - £20k of options - Mine
2022 Macan - £18k of options - Wifes
You could really tell how much he enjoys his 911 if the most important thing to him was how much he spent on options
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