Worst aging cars?
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ingenieur said:
E90_M3Ross said:
ingenieur said:
T1berious said:
EV's have to chase low drag figures so add that to the brief of moving people and luggage means we get blobs.
Why do EVs have to chase low drag figures? Into the ordinary pot with Tesla I would throw most things from Korea from the mid 90's to around say 2005, not only didn't they age well they looked 15 years out of date when they were brand new, but they were a budget brand then and at least they had an excuse for manufacturing the mundane.
I also thought that about a basic VW golf Mk 5, it always looked to me like a Chinese knock off of a real golf and aged pretty quickly to my eyes.
I also thought that about a basic VW golf Mk 5, it always looked to me like a Chinese knock off of a real golf and aged pretty quickly to my eyes.
Edited by Gordon Hill on Sunday 7th April 10:40
eldar said:
G-wiz said:
Odd discussion,
A car from the 1930s looks around 100 years old now.
A car from the 1960s looks around 60 years old now.
A car from the 1980s looks around 40 years old now.
I could go on..........
Don't bother.A car from the 1930s looks around 100 years old now.
A car from the 1960s looks around 60 years old now.
A car from the 1980s looks around 40 years old now.
I could go on..........
There's loads of examples of cars that if you took a box fresh version it wouldn't look out of place in a showroom today.
A Citroën C6 looks more modern than anything they make today and that's 20 years old.
Are you suggesting this looks 69 years old?
ingenieur said:
fflump said:
Audi saloons age badly IMO.
The company change the front end (especially grill) so often and so drastically as to render older iterations looking very dated.
Perhaps it is the case though that some of the Audis you're thinking of are now quite old? When they started getting quite spangley in the early naughties... that's 20 or more years ago now. Those cars should look old. The company change the front end (especially grill) so often and so drastically as to render older iterations looking very dated.
Compared to a 10 year old Maserati Ghibli they look dated.
Olivera said:
J4CKO said:
But, they are also a bit plain and samey, I don’t think they are a bad shape at all, the 3 and S anyway, but the 3 just lacks a bit of visual impact and so many are in white as mentioned, see one in a nice strong red or blue and it lifts it, the Model S is better looking but they have been flogging what is essentially the same design for what 13 years ?
The general Tesla design language of clean and unfussy surfaces has stood the test of time, hence the Model S doesn't look particularly dated.The Model 3 on the other hand is just rather odd, with a huge expanse of windscreen glass (in height) together with ubiquitous white giving it the duck billed platypus look.
I don’t dislike the 3, but partly down to the sheer numbers and it being a bit plain looking I tend not to notice them.
Model S has had some decent refreshes but there is only so far they can take it without a new model or more radical refresh, be investing to see what they do with it.
E63eeeeee... said:
bobtail4x4 said:
Olivergt said:
Resolutionary said:
Any Nissan Juke. They get worse every time I see one.
I'm the opposite, I think they are now looking quite funky and different.ingenieur said:
fflump said:
Audi saloons age badly IMO.
The company change the front end (especially grill) so often and so drastically as to render older iterations looking very dated.
Perhaps it is the case though that some of the Audis you're thinking of are now quite old? When they started getting quite spangley in the early naughties... that's 20 or more years ago now. Those cars should look old. The company change the front end (especially grill) so often and so drastically as to render older iterations looking very dated.
ChocolateFrog said:
The whole point of the thread is that that notion is bks.
There's loads of examples of cars that if you took a box fresh version it wouldn't look out of place in a showroom today.
A Citroën C6 looks more modern than anything they make today and that's 20 years old.
Are you suggesting this looks 69 years old?
Yes, that does look 69 years old. Stunning, but certainly not anything other than old.There's loads of examples of cars that if you took a box fresh version it wouldn't look out of place in a showroom today.
A Citroën C6 looks more modern than anything they make today and that's 20 years old.
Are you suggesting this looks 69 years old?
Bit like when the MK1 Focus gets trotted out as still looking fresh, which it really does not.
Some people seem to be interpreting this thread as "which cars have/hadn't aged" whereas I think the original question was "which cars have aged badly". An old car can look its age but still have aged extremely well (the SL above would be an example of that); conversely, a car can look more modern than it actually is but have aged very badly.
Edited by kambites on Sunday 7th April 12:10
MikeM6 said:
ChocolateFrog said:
The whole point of the thread is that that notion is bks.
There's loads of examples of cars that if you took a box fresh version it wouldn't look out of place in a showroom today.
A Citroën C6 looks more modern than anything they make today and that's 20 years old.
Are you suggesting this looks 69 years old?
Yes, that does look 69 years old. Stunning, but certainly not anything other than old.There's loads of examples of cars that if you took a box fresh version it wouldn't look out of place in a showroom today.
A Citroën C6 looks more modern than anything they make today and that's 20 years old.
Are you suggesting this looks 69 years old?
Bit like when the MK1 Focus gets trotted out as still looking fresh, which it really does not.
Example ST170 for sale on Autotrader. I think the basic shape has aged better than the RS
Edited by ingenieur on Sunday 7th April 11:25
Surprised we have got this far through the thread without McLaren not being mentioned.
From the perspective of looking dated, they suffer from the evolutionary design approach McLaren take. The new 750s looks so similar the 570s from 2017 to me, ergo has instantly dated. And it wasn't an appealing design to start with.
And that puts McLaren into a difficult situation - scratch the current design language and deliver something fresh, and 6 or 7 model years will look even older than the time gap represents.
From the perspective of looking dated, they suffer from the evolutionary design approach McLaren take. The new 750s looks so similar the 570s from 2017 to me, ergo has instantly dated. And it wasn't an appealing design to start with.
And that puts McLaren into a difficult situation - scratch the current design language and deliver something fresh, and 6 or 7 model years will look even older than the time gap represents.
ingenieur said:
Not a Ford fan to any great extent but a MK1 Focus 3-door in good condition all polished up would be a decent looking thing. It hasn't aged badly.. although does look old by this stage as we all know how old they are.
Example ST170 for sale on Autotrader. I think the basic shape has aged better than the RS
I guess we probably need to define what we mean by 'aged well' then, as I would say the MK1 Focus looks old and is not particularly good looking. Example ST170 for sale on Autotrader. I think the basic shape has aged better than the RS
Edited by ingenieur on Sunday 7th April 11:25
However, these things are subjective.
kambites said:
Some people seem to be interpreting this thread as "which cars have/hadn't aged" whereas I think the original question was "which cars have aged badly". An old car can look its age but still have aged extremely well (the SLK above would be an example of that); conversely, a car can look more modern than it actually is but have aged very badly.
Eloquently put, and this was absolutely the intention - thought it might be a potentially fun topicSome good shouts so far, definitely some I hadn’t really thought about
MikeM6 said:
ingenieur said:
Not a Ford fan to any great extent but a MK1 Focus 3-door in good condition all polished up would be a decent looking thing. It hasn't aged badly.. although does look old by this stage as we all know how old they are.
Example ST170 for sale on Autotrader. I think the basic shape has aged better than the RS
I guess we probably need to define what we mean by 'aged well' then, as I would say the MK1 Focus looks old and is not particularly good looking. Example ST170 for sale on Autotrader. I think the basic shape has aged better than the RS
Edited by ingenieur on Sunday 7th April 11:25
However, these things are subjective.
ajap1979 said:
ingenieur said:
E90_M3Ross said:
ingenieur said:
T1berious said:
EV's have to chase low drag figures so add that to the brief of moving people and luggage means we get blobs.
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