Ford Focus 1.0ltr Ecoboost - Real MPG?
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I am considering one of these probably the 100PS version as its only going to be a run around for the other half. Standard kit seems to be reasonable and the interior was decent in my opinion.
However I have read lots of reports of MPG falling well short of the quoted 58mpg from Ford. I never expected it to reach that in reality but 45-48mpg would be nice. Reports suggest 35-40 are more realistic, but I wanted to hear from owners currently out there?
However I have read lots of reports of MPG falling well short of the quoted 58mpg from Ford. I never expected it to reach that in reality but 45-48mpg would be nice. Reports suggest 35-40 are more realistic, but I wanted to hear from owners currently out there?
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/ford/focus-201...
Engine: 1.0T EcoBoost 100ps
Official MPG: 58.9–60.1 mpg
Real MPG Avg.: 40.6 mpg
Real MPG %: 69%
Engine: 1.0T EcoBoost 100ps
Official MPG: 58.9–60.1 mpg
Real MPG Avg.: 40.6 mpg
Real MPG %: 69%
Not an owner but I had one as a rental for 3 weeks whilst both Jersey cars were off the road.
After the first 5 miles, I realised that there was no joy to be had from spirited driving…so started driving in the most Christian manner possible. Admittedly on a small island, my average was 37.8 over ~450 miles.
Not a car I particularly liked. Some highlights / nice details were:
Pop out door protector-thingies
Bluetooth that worked
Fabric on the rear of the seat-belt thingies so they didn't rattle
Low-lights were:
Tinny stereo - no real depth
Gutless spiritless engine (suspect the 125 may be better - I think the fun has been mapped out)
Some really cheapo bits (parcel shelf with no reinforcement on pivots - it was broken on the 250-mile car I picked up!)
Dull steering (typical e-PAS)
Personally, I would buy something else…but that may just be me… My over-riding impression of the car was what *bad* value it seemed to be to me!
After the first 5 miles, I realised that there was no joy to be had from spirited driving…so started driving in the most Christian manner possible. Admittedly on a small island, my average was 37.8 over ~450 miles.
Not a car I particularly liked. Some highlights / nice details were:
Pop out door protector-thingies
Bluetooth that worked
Fabric on the rear of the seat-belt thingies so they didn't rattle
Low-lights were:
Tinny stereo - no real depth
Gutless spiritless engine (suspect the 125 may be better - I think the fun has been mapped out)
Some really cheapo bits (parcel shelf with no reinforcement on pivots - it was broken on the 250-mile car I picked up!)
Dull steering (typical e-PAS)
Personally, I would buy something else…but that may just be me… My over-riding impression of the car was what *bad* value it seemed to be to me!
The Mrs has a 1 litre Ecoboost Fiesta. I can report that you will not achieve anywhere near what Ford are claiming.
A very gentle 60mph cruise on the motorway will give 55mpg at a push, but add in real life factors such as traffic and you are looking at 50mpg on an economy run. Around town it is more like high 30's, and normal motorway speeds will yield mpg in the low 40's.
I imagine the Focus will be even less due to more weight.
A very gentle 60mph cruise on the motorway will give 55mpg at a push, but add in real life factors such as traffic and you are looking at 50mpg on an economy run. Around town it is more like high 30's, and normal motorway speeds will yield mpg in the low 40's.
I imagine the Focus will be even less due to more weight.
An Aygo has 68 BHP, not 100 (though that would be great), not comparable, the Aygo engine is a decent little unit but the Ford one is a decade on technology wise and has a turbo. The Aygo is quite a bit lighter and quite a bit slower, the only similaroty is a number of cylinders and CC.
The Ecoboost is meant to be nicer to drive than a normal 1.6 engine.
I would be happy with 40 MPG average in a car that has a decent level of performance, as with all car performance its a trade off between having the ability to generate the power and actually using it, as with any engine with good torque is quite compelling to use it and no matter how clever the engine is, a certain mass being accelerated at a given rate takes a certain amount of energy however it is made.
The Ecoboost is meant to be nicer to drive than a normal 1.6 engine.
I would be happy with 40 MPG average in a car that has a decent level of performance, as with all car performance its a trade off between having the ability to generate the power and actually using it, as with any engine with good torque is quite compelling to use it and no matter how clever the engine is, a certain mass being accelerated at a given rate takes a certain amount of energy however it is made.
I've got one.
Used mainly around town and seems to spend virtually every mile in traffic.
and I get near enough bang on 40mpg.
Car has only 3.5k on it so it may improve as the miles increase but to be honest I'm not holding my breath.
At motorway speeds I get nearer 50 mpg and it's quite relaxed despite what you might think being a 1.0 litre, as it's around 3000rpm at 70-75mph.
Compared to my old Focus 1.6 (also 100bhp version), it is much, much better in all areas and is slightly more tourquier (sp?).
Only got the 100bhp as there were some cracking deals at the time that weren't on the 125bhp version but if you can stretch to the 125bhp it suits the Focus better and has a 6sp 'box to boot!
Didn't bother looking at diesels as my annual milage being on the low side would only end up causing me problems and being mainly a town based car, performance isn't really a priority.
Had it 10 months now and very impressed so far.
Used mainly around town and seems to spend virtually every mile in traffic.
and I get near enough bang on 40mpg.Car has only 3.5k on it so it may improve as the miles increase but to be honest I'm not holding my breath.
At motorway speeds I get nearer 50 mpg and it's quite relaxed despite what you might think being a 1.0 litre, as it's around 3000rpm at 70-75mph.
Compared to my old Focus 1.6 (also 100bhp version), it is much, much better in all areas and is slightly more tourquier (sp?).
Only got the 100bhp as there were some cracking deals at the time that weren't on the 125bhp version but if you can stretch to the 125bhp it suits the Focus better and has a 6sp 'box to boot!
Didn't bother looking at diesels as my annual milage being on the low side would only end up causing me problems and being mainly a town based car, performance isn't really a priority.
Had it 10 months now and very impressed so far.
topless_mx5 said:
The Mrs has a 1 litre Ecoboost Fiesta. I can report that you will not achieve anywhere near what Ford are claiming.
A very gentle 60mph cruise on the motorway will give 55mpg at a push, but add in real life factors such as traffic and you are looking at 50mpg on an economy run. Around town it is more like high 30's, and normal motorway speeds will yield mpg in the low 40's.
I imagine the Focus will be even less due to more weight.
Sister in law has one and my brother says he gets 50mpg out of it in traffic. A very gentle 60mph cruise on the motorway will give 55mpg at a push, but add in real life factors such as traffic and you are looking at 50mpg on an economy run. Around town it is more like high 30's, and normal motorway speeds will yield mpg in the low 40's.
I imagine the Focus will be even less due to more weight.
Even though they only have a little engine, they are 100 or 125hp and if you use 125hp you will burn 125hp worth of fuel, which is about what a MKII Golf GTI is.
topless_mx5 said:
The Mrs has a 1 litre Ecoboost Fiesta. I can report that you will not achieve anywhere near what Ford are claiming.
A very gentle 60mph cruise on the motorway will give 55mpg at a push, but add in real life factors such as traffic and you are looking at 50mpg on an economy run. Around town it is more like high 30's, and normal motorway speeds will yield mpg in the low 40's.
I imagine the Focus will be even less due to more weight.
That isn't bad, especially if the 125ps one returns that as its very similar to the MPG her 1.25 new shape fiesta manages but that only has 82ps. A very gentle 60mph cruise on the motorway will give 55mpg at a push, but add in real life factors such as traffic and you are looking at 50mpg on an economy run. Around town it is more like high 30's, and normal motorway speeds will yield mpg in the low 40's.
I imagine the Focus will be even less due to more weight.
People still don't understand the NEDC cycle. That is just the standardised test so you can see rough comparisons BETWEEN vehicles, not the actual numbers you will see.
Issues with using NEDC as your expected mpg:
Issues with using NEDC as your expected mpg:
- turns are not considered
- erratic driving are not considered
- hills are not considered
- wind is not considered
AnotherClarkey said:
The average on the Spritmonitor database seems to be 41-42mpg. A useful improvement (13% or so) over the similarly powerful old 1.6 but nowhere near the claims (obviously).
That's what my father-in-law is achieving in his Eco-boost 100hp. My wife has a 1.6 2010 focus and whilst the economy is similar the engine noise is awful! The new focus is a much nicer place to be.That said, there's a certain charm in pushing on in the old focus!
GroundEffect said:
People still don't understand the NEDC cycle. That is just the standardised test so you can see rough comparisons BETWEEN vehicles, not the actual numbers you will see.
And manufactures know the cycle so can tune vehicles accordingly to be efficient at set speeds. In real world driving for example you might want to be in 3rd at 30mph, as 4th has NO guts whatsoever, but 4th is good on fuel in the test when there are no hills or acceleration required. J4CKO said:
An Aygo has 68 BHP, not 100 (though that would be great), not comparable, the Aygo engine is a decent little unit but the Ford one is a decade on technology wise and has a turbo. The Aygo is quite a bit lighter and quite a bit slower, the only similaroty is a number of cylinders and CC.
The Ecoboost is meant to be nicer to drive than a normal 1.6 engine.
I would be happy with 40 MPG average in a car that has a decent level of performance, as with all car performance its a trade off between having the ability to generate the power and actually using it, as with any engine with good torque is quite compelling to use it and no matter how clever the engine is, a certain mass being accelerated at a given rate takes a certain amount of energy however it is made.
I don't reckon the Ford engine is any better than the Aygo design wise it's just build to handle very high pressure ratios at low rpm. Nothing new. Lancia were doing it with the Thema in 1988.The Ecoboost is meant to be nicer to drive than a normal 1.6 engine.
I would be happy with 40 MPG average in a car that has a decent level of performance, as with all car performance its a trade off between having the ability to generate the power and actually using it, as with any engine with good torque is quite compelling to use it and no matter how clever the engine is, a certain mass being accelerated at a given rate takes a certain amount of energy however it is made.
Seems like he real MPG is shockingly bad compared to the advertised. Most would accept a slight exagerration by the makers, but 30% +?
I'd be pretty angry if my 60 mpg car only got 40 in real life...
Surely the rfl should be based upon real mpg, then the makers wouldnt take the piss so much..
I'd be pretty angry if my 60 mpg car only got 40 in real life...
Surely the rfl should be based upon real mpg, then the makers wouldnt take the piss so much..
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