Where do you go after a GT2
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Well after an exhaustive search I'll tell you where: nowhere. Instead you get a completely immaculate 2007 jag xjr 4.2 supercharged to go next to it. Now I can take the kids out in fast luxury and have fun and take myself out in super fast hair-on-fire mode and also have fun.
These Jags are surprisingly quick and yet like any number of M3s, M5s, Audi RS, astons, maseratis, etc, etc never pretends to be a sports car and fall so far short as to be not one thing or the other.
Hey swampy there's almost 10 litres in my garage now, take your climate change and poke it
SM
These Jags are surprisingly quick and yet like any number of M3s, M5s, Audi RS, astons, maseratis, etc, etc never pretends to be a sports car and fall so far short as to be not one thing or the other.
Hey swampy there's almost 10 litres in my garage now, take your climate change and poke it
SM
Since my GT2, i have had a merc of some description; morgan aero series 1;996 turbo x50; ferrari 348tb; and now looking for something to replace the 348...the GT2 was such a standout car in my car owning life. I shouldnt have sold it..got frightened of my losing my license and liberty.
Woolfie said:
Since my GT2, i have had a merc of some description; morgan aero series 1;996 turbo x50; ferrari 348tb; and now looking for something to replace the 348...the GT2 was such a standout car in my car owning life. I shouldnt have sold it..got frightened of my losing my license and liberty.
I know what you mean speed wise, but it's a hard habit to break. Nice string of cars there.My son loves the Jag but why? speed? no, comfort? no, looks? yeah a bit... But when asked what makes him love it "Because it's cheap enough that you don't have to sell the GT2"
That's my boy!SM
Crimp a Length! said:
I went back to a 6T for usability and now in a Mark 2 GT3, the latter is a sublime machine. I actually prefer it to my GT2.
I follow your posts with interest. I sold my 996 Turbo back in August because I found it to be uninvolving at legal speeds. I've had a 987 Cayman S since then which IMO is a lot more fun on public roads.
I think a 997 GT3 will be next.
BillTheButcher said:
I follow your posts with interest.
I sold my 996 Turbo back in August because I found it to be uninvolving at legal speeds. I've had a 987 Cayman S since then which IMO is a lot more fun on public roads.
I think a 997 GT3 will be next.
If I may say so, the '7 GT3, will undoubtedly be more tactile than the Cayman, but it may also be uninvolving (albeit in a different way to the 996 Turbo) at legal speeds on UK roads.I sold my 996 Turbo back in August because I found it to be uninvolving at legal speeds. I've had a 987 Cayman S since then which IMO is a lot more fun on public roads.
I think a 997 GT3 will be next.
The '7 GT3 is fantastically engineered piece if kit, with superb road manners, but that in itself made it (for me) a frustrating car to drive on the UK's roads.
Lots will disagree with me I'm sure. But the 996 GT3 (any iteration) is much more tactile and enagaging at sane/legal speeds on our roads.
For the record I've owned a couple of 996 GT2's, likewise 997 GT3's, three Mk1 996 GT3's and a 996 GT3RS.
I may well be (as someone on here recently kindly referred to me as)
a
But I have genuinely "served my time" behind the steering wheels of all the above.
Edited by Slippydiff on Wednesday 23 October 14:33
Slippydiff said:
If I may say so, the '7 GT3, will undoubtedly be more tactile than the Cayman, but it may also be uninvolving (albeit in a different way to the 996 Turbo) at legal speeds on UK roads.
The '7 GT3 is fantastically engineered piece if kit, with superb road manners, but that in itself made it (for me) a frustrating car to drive on the UK's roads.
Lots will disagree with me I'm sure. But the 996 GT3 (any iteration) is much more tactile and enagaging at sane/legal speeds on our roads.
For the record I've owned a couple of 996 GT2's, likewise 997 GT3's, three Mk1 996 GT3's and a 996 GT3RS.
That's very interesting. I tried a 996.1 GT3 before I bought my 996 Turbo. I found it a frustrating car to extract the performance from. I suspect that this said a lot more about me (and my (lack of) driving ability) than it did about the GT3 though. I'd like to try one again now that I've spent a bit of time with a Cayman S.The '7 GT3 is fantastically engineered piece if kit, with superb road manners, but that in itself made it (for me) a frustrating car to drive on the UK's roads.
Lots will disagree with me I'm sure. But the 996 GT3 (any iteration) is much more tactile and enagaging at sane/legal speeds on our roads.
For the record I've owned a couple of 996 GT2's, likewise 997 GT3's, three Mk1 996 GT3's and a 996 GT3RS.
You're not the first person to say that you have to be doing silly speeds to get the best out of a 997 GT3. I thought it would be more engaging at lower speeds.
BillTheButcher said:
Slippydiff said:
If I may say so, the '7 GT3, will undoubtedly be more tactile than the Cayman, but it may also be uninvolving (albeit in a different way to the 996 Turbo) at legal speeds on UK roads.
The '7 GT3 is fantastically engineered piece if kit, with superb road manners, but that in itself made it (for me) a frustrating car to drive on the UK's roads.
Lots will disagree with me I'm sure. But the 996 GT3 (any iteration) is much more tactile and enagaging at sane/legal speeds on our roads.
For the record I've owned a couple of 996 GT2's, likewise 997 GT3's, three Mk1 996 GT3's and a 996 GT3RS.
That's very interesting. I tried a 996.1 GT3 before I bought my 996 Turbo. I found it a frustrating car to extract the performance from. I suspect that this said a lot more about me (and my (lack of) driving ability) than it did about the GT3 though. I'd like to try one again now that I've spent a bit of time with a Cayman S.The '7 GT3 is fantastically engineered piece if kit, with superb road manners, but that in itself made it (for me) a frustrating car to drive on the UK's roads.
Lots will disagree with me I'm sure. But the 996 GT3 (any iteration) is much more tactile and enagaging at sane/legal speeds on our roads.
For the record I've owned a couple of 996 GT2's, likewise 997 GT3's, three Mk1 996 GT3's and a 996 GT3RS.
You're not the first person to say that you have to be doing silly speeds to get the best out of a 997 GT3. I thought it would be more engaging at lower speeds.
I'd take issue whether that equates to being more engaging though ?
It's been said before, but it is very apt, there's a world of difference between a Mk1 GT3 and well maintained, well set up (for the road) Mk1 GT3. There are plenty out there that have very tired suspension, (or even if the suspension is in tip top condition) they have geometry settings more suited to a race track and slicks.
I don't know what state the car you drove was in ? But drive a bad 'un and it would be enough to put you off them and leave you thinking "What's all the fuss about/how do these driving gods drive these cars ?"
Get a drive in a good one, I can recommend two on here, both are Speed Yellow and have standard suspension that's in tip top condition. Ben (all2of me) and Richard (Jackal) (my old car) are perfect examples of how a standard car should feel and drive.
I'd be happy to let you drive mine, but it's so far from standard (and off the road currently) that it's not really representative of the model. Ben's and Richards most definitely are.
Whilst they're not as "easy" as a 996 C2/C4 to drive at speed, insofar as they'll require a little more thought and input from the driver, driving them quickly on the road shouldn't be neither a white-knuckle ride or frustrating by any stretch of the imagination.
Once you've driven a properly maintained and set up example, be assured, they do get under your skin.
Slippydiff said:
I don't know what state the car you drove was in ? But drive a bad 'un and it would be enough to put you off them and leave you thinking "What's all the fuss about/how do these driving gods drive these cars ?"
Unfortunately it's the only one I've driven so I haven't got anything to compare it to. I didn't really intend to drive it at all (they were beyond my budget at the time) but one came up near where I was test driving the Turbo so I thought I might as well have a go.Slippydiff said:
Get a drive in a good one, I can recommend two on here, both are Speed Yellow and have standard suspension that's in tip top condition. Ben (all2of me) and Richard (Jackal) (my old car) are perfect examples of how a standard car should feel and drive.
I'd be happy to let you drive mine, but it's so far from standard (and off the road currently) that it's not really representative of the model. Ben's and Richards most definitely are.
Whilst they're not as "easy" as a 996 C2/C4 to drive at speed, insofar as they'll require a little more thought and input from the driver, driving them quickly on the road shouldn't be neither a white-knuckle ride or frustrating by any stretch of the imagination.
Once you've driven a properly maintained and set up example, be assured, they do get under your skin.
I don't spend much time north of 70 which is why the Cayman S suits me better than my old Turbo. It felt like the Turbo didn't even bother waking up until I was in excess of the NSL. The boost was a huge adrenaline rush but not very well suited to my driving.I'd be happy to let you drive mine, but it's so far from standard (and off the road currently) that it's not really representative of the model. Ben's and Richards most definitely are.
Whilst they're not as "easy" as a 996 C2/C4 to drive at speed, insofar as they'll require a little more thought and input from the driver, driving them quickly on the road shouldn't be neither a white-knuckle ride or frustrating by any stretch of the imagination.
Once you've driven a properly maintained and set up example, be assured, they do get under your skin.
Slippydiff said:
BillTheButcher said:
I follow your posts with interest.
I sold my 996 Turbo back in August because I found it to be uninvolving at legal speeds. I've had a 987 Cayman S since then which IMO is a lot more fun on public roads.
I think a 997 GT3 will be next.
If I may say so, the '7 GT3, will undoubtedly be more tactile than the Cayman, but it may also be uninvolving (albeit in a different way to the 996 Turbo) at legal speeds on UK roads.I sold my 996 Turbo back in August because I found it to be uninvolving at legal speeds. I've had a 987 Cayman S since then which IMO is a lot more fun on public roads.
I think a 997 GT3 will be next.
The '7 GT3 is fantastically engineered piece if kit, with superb road manners, but that in itself made it (for me) a frustrating car to drive on the UK's roads.
Lots will disagree with me I'm sure. But the 996 GT3 (any iteration) is much more tactile and enagaging at sane/legal speeds on our roads.
For the record I've owned a couple of 996 GT2's, likewise 997 GT3's, three Mk1 996 GT3's and a 996 GT3RS.
I may well be (as someone on here recently kindly referred to me as)
a
But I have genuinely "served my time" behind the steering wheels of all the above.
Edited by Slippydiff on Wednesday 23 October 14:33
I am getting serious withdrawal symptoms, reading these posts. Its been almost over 5 years since i had the 996GT2. I was looking at one just recently as part of a search. It was a cat c but a good car and a good price; i just couldn't get myself to release the funds. So its now either a 996 Turbo S and maybe another red italian beast, and wait to see when the perfect GT2 comes through. There was a ruf GT2 - speed yellow - which I think castello cars sold on ages ago..i still fancy that one, if it ever comes up.
In the meantime whilst waiting for the perfect car I (we - a few of us) have a little mini cooper s - upgraded - to do all the trackday excitement; we might add a caterham to the collection for alternative track day fun. But for now i want a beautiful high performance car to be nestled in my garage, with enough of a special feel about it.
In the meantime whilst waiting for the perfect car I (we - a few of us) have a little mini cooper s - upgraded - to do all the trackday excitement; we might add a caterham to the collection for alternative track day fun. But for now i want a beautiful high performance car to be nestled in my garage, with enough of a special feel about it.
Slippydiff said:
Fixed that last post for you Ed ............
All In my opinion of course, i can certainly see the attraction from a drivers stand point, light, more agile and less power so in theory more engaging especially at sane speeds. I'd have to punt for a 997 though under the basis of looks
Edited by shantybeater on Thursday 24th October 15:22
Don't agree a GT3 looks like a carrera
In the flesh they look superb (not saying a carrera doesn't)
Very aggressive look and stance and certainly more of a drivers choice. Epic cars
Its like saying a GT2 looks like a 996 Turbo, when they clearly don't.
It's the subtleties that make all the difference & pictures don't lift those.
Have a good luck at a GT3 in the flesh. Dated?
Not on your nelly.
Beautiful, aggressive yet subtle
In the flesh they look superb (not saying a carrera doesn't)
Very aggressive look and stance and certainly more of a drivers choice. Epic cars
Its like saying a GT2 looks like a 996 Turbo, when they clearly don't.
It's the subtleties that make all the difference & pictures don't lift those.
Have a good luck at a GT3 in the flesh. Dated?
Not on your nelly.
Beautiful, aggressive yet subtle
ClassicCarMad said:
Don't agree a GT3 looks like a carrera
In the flesh they look superb (not saying a carrera doesn't)
Very aggressive look and stance and certainly more of a drivers choice. Epic cars
Its like saying a GT2 looks like a 996 Turbo, when they clearly don't.
It's the subtleties that make all the difference & pictures don't lift those.
Have a good luck at a GT3 in the flesh. Dated?
Not on your nelly.
Beautiful, aggressive yet subtle
In the flesh they look superb (not saying a carrera doesn't)
Very aggressive look and stance and certainly more of a drivers choice. Epic cars
Its like saying a GT2 looks like a 996 Turbo, when they clearly don't.
It's the subtleties that make all the difference & pictures don't lift those.
Have a good luck at a GT3 in the flesh. Dated?
Not on your nelly.
Beautiful, aggressive yet subtle
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