Discussion
NDNDNDND said:
A bigger issue is the light payload and towing capacities. While an electric truck would make sense for the very short distances our D-Max travels on the farm, the payload capacity would often be exceeded (just a load of logs would do that, especially if they're being brought back for seasoning) and the towing capacity wouldn't be sufficient to drag two dozen ewes to the market. Plus venturing onto a muddy field with a trailer and only two wheel drive would probably result in a walk back to the yard to get a tractor.
Not too mention the Chinese factor. Ick.
Yours is a fairly unique scenario I guess, you need a 4x4 with a higher payload. I don’t intend to go off road or take lambs to the slaughter so suits me fine, Plus you wouldn’t get a brand new Isuzu for £100 a month,Not too mention the Chinese factor. Ick.
fuzzymonkey said:
Poor guy. But also, what on earth gave him the impression the car was really worth £40k!!! That's madness.Risonax said:
Mikebentley said:
Toaster Pilot said:
Silvanus said:
This is the one. I'm surprised they've gone with using the Maxus branding over MG, guess it's to separate passenger and commercial brands in Europe. SAIC make a huge range of cars and they get badged differently in different markets.
https://www.mgcars.com/en/mg-models/new-mg-extende...
Yeah it can’t just be me that thinks it’s daft having the “Maxus” brand stand alone. Even more so now they’re launching a car - the MIFA 9 people carrier thing. https://www.mgcars.com/en/mg-models/new-mg-extende...
Toaster Pilot said:
A double cab D-Max only has a 1100kg payload anyway doesn’t it? I think if you need to tow loads then fair enough but complaining about it only having a 1000kg payload is nonsense.
I must've got the single and double cabs confused - our crewcab is rated at 1136kg, but the RWD single cab can carry nearly 1300. I'd say both are a reasonable chunk more than the Maxus though. Furthermore, it seems the T90 EV is only rated to 740kg payload in most territories and has been reclassified/re-engineered (?) to have a one-tonne payload in the UK market for tax reasons. I'm surprised that people think our usage is unique. Is it a shock to find that some people buy a pickup because they actually need a pickup and then do pickup things with it?
This thing looks a bit useless though. Sketchy payload, sketchy road manners, can't tow enough, can't go off road as it's 2wd and the vulnerable battery is literally hung below the chassis rails. It's a pickup for people who'd be better served by a van. No wonder they're giving them away for nothing!
GT6k said:
I see two types of pickups, battered dirty ones belonging to tradesmen and farmers and a larger contingent are pristine clean and the furthest off-road they go is a couple of wheels on the kerb whilst the children are disgorged outside school.
And virtually all those owners are actually just fine with the min 1t load limit.The number of people that actually need more than that must be pretty small. Obviously we have one poster here who's used to being able to carry a fair chunk more but I seriously doubt that's a common 'need' amongst pickup drivers.
GT6k said:
I see two types of pickups, battered dirty ones belonging to tradesmen and farmers and a larger contingent are pristine clean and the furthest off-road they go is a couple of wheels on the kerb whilst the children are disgorged outside school.
I live on a new build site and loads of the black hats drive pickups. They never carry more than a lunch box because materials are brought to site. TheDeuce said:
And virtually all those owners are actually just fine with the min 1t load limit.
The number of people that actually need more than that must be pretty small. Obviously we have one poster here who's used to being able to carry a fair chunk more but I seriously doubt that's a common 'need' amongst pickup drivers.
I’m guessing if the Maxus was manufactured somewhere else they’d suddenly need less payload. The number of people that actually need more than that must be pretty small. Obviously we have one poster here who's used to being able to carry a fair chunk more but I seriously doubt that's a common 'need' amongst pickup drivers.
Toaster Pilot said:
GT6k said:
I see two types of pickups, battered dirty ones belonging to tradesmen and farmers and a larger contingent are pristine clean and the furthest off-road they go is a couple of wheels on the kerb whilst the children are disgorged outside school.
I live on a new build site and loads of the black hats drive pickups. They never carry more than a lunch box because materials are brought to site. This is why each generation of pickup truck focuses more and more on trying to be a five seater premium SUV on the inside, they know who's buying them and why!
It's worth pointing out how just how little traction a 2wd pickup has if anyone has even the slightest need to venture off tarmac.
My Hilux runs on tall profile narrow 17 inch BFG ATs yet is absolutely useless off road until you engage 4x4. I went skiing today and needed to switch in the front axle to get out of the ploughed car park yet all sorts of normal everyday cars were happily trundling around.
In 4x4 it does everything my previous Land Cruisers and Defenders did.
Some of the figures quoted are crazily cheap though.
My Hilux runs on tall profile narrow 17 inch BFG ATs yet is absolutely useless off road until you engage 4x4. I went skiing today and needed to switch in the front axle to get out of the ploughed car park yet all sorts of normal everyday cars were happily trundling around.
In 4x4 it does everything my previous Land Cruisers and Defenders did.
Some of the figures quoted are crazily cheap though.
Snow and Rocks said:
It's worth pointing out how just how little traction a 2wd pickup has if anyone has even the slightest need to venture off tarmac.
My Hilux runs on tall profile narrow 17 inch BFG ATs yet is absolutely useless off road until you engage 4x4. I went skiing today and needed to switch in the front axle to get out of the ploughed car park yet all sorts of normal everyday cars were happily trundling around.
In 4x4 it does everything my previous Land Cruisers and Defenders did.
Some of the figures quoted are crazily cheap though.
AWD changes everything, agreed.My Hilux runs on tall profile narrow 17 inch BFG ATs yet is absolutely useless off road until you engage 4x4. I went skiing today and needed to switch in the front axle to get out of the ploughed car park yet all sorts of normal everyday cars were happily trundling around.
In 4x4 it does everything my previous Land Cruisers and Defenders did.
Some of the figures quoted are crazily cheap though.
But this particular 'truck' is endlessly flawed as a truck, the ground clearance is useless. The rwd is useless.. and I'm not sure but I'm willing to bet part of a diesel to EV truck conversion resulted in low rolling resistance tyres, also useless off road.
But it doesn't matter because it's plainly a double cab pickup designed to be sold as a tax dodge family car solution
But it didn't sell because it's too expensive to be a tax dodge and too weak to be a useful truck. Hence, it's a dead donkey disposed of via ludicrously cheap lease deals.
Grab em while you can! But don't take it onto a muddy field thinking you're an alpha male...
I’ve signed up for one. Would I have gone out and looked at a pick up for my next car? Absolutely not. The reason I went for it is because I’ve been looking for something to replace my 12 year old Vauxhall Vivaro.
In that Vivaro I’ve never needed to carry 1000kgs, utilise 4 wheel drive or travel in excess of 220 miles. All I’ve needed of it is that it gets from a to b with room for me, the wife and the dog.
What I do need of it (and the same 2 things I was looking for before the Maxus) is that it’s cheaper on fuel and that it has an auto box so it ticks the boxes for me. The fact that it will cost me less each month than I was currently spending on fuel is a bonus.
Since this deal came out I’ve heard comments on here, the lease thread and the second hand car thread about why it won’t suit, how you’ll be lucky to get 120 miles out of it, how you’ll be stuck in a grassy field without 4wd, how it’s massively overpriced etc. It’s like I’ve seen the price, signed a form and sat here waiting for this vehicle to turn up and me to discover all its faults.
I haven’t, and I’m sure most who have gone for it haven’t either. As soon as the offer came up I read/watched all the reviews I could. I then went to the Maxus dealer climbed all over it and had quite a long test drive. Then, and only then, I signed up.
So what I’m trying to say is that I’m sure everyone is aware of it’s limitations but that still doesn’t distract from the fact this is a cracking deal, costing less than most people’s Sky TV subscription.
In that Vivaro I’ve never needed to carry 1000kgs, utilise 4 wheel drive or travel in excess of 220 miles. All I’ve needed of it is that it gets from a to b with room for me, the wife and the dog.
What I do need of it (and the same 2 things I was looking for before the Maxus) is that it’s cheaper on fuel and that it has an auto box so it ticks the boxes for me. The fact that it will cost me less each month than I was currently spending on fuel is a bonus.
Since this deal came out I’ve heard comments on here, the lease thread and the second hand car thread about why it won’t suit, how you’ll be lucky to get 120 miles out of it, how you’ll be stuck in a grassy field without 4wd, how it’s massively overpriced etc. It’s like I’ve seen the price, signed a form and sat here waiting for this vehicle to turn up and me to discover all its faults.
I haven’t, and I’m sure most who have gone for it haven’t either. As soon as the offer came up I read/watched all the reviews I could. I then went to the Maxus dealer climbed all over it and had quite a long test drive. Then, and only then, I signed up.
So what I’m trying to say is that I’m sure everyone is aware of it’s limitations but that still doesn’t distract from the fact this is a cracking deal, costing less than most people’s Sky TV subscription.
Toaster Pilot said:
Had my agreement from the funder to sign today, confirming the registration number.
Didn’t work at first but about 20 mins later they sent me another email which did, odd.
That's good to hear mate. Are you getting any accessories?Didn’t work at first but about 20 mins later they sent me another email which did, odd.
I've looked at a few tonneau covers etc but to have one whilst retaining the original roll bars are silly money. So I've been watching a few YouTube videos on making your own. Looks pretty straightforward so I think that's what I'm going to do.
Think I'm going to get the tailgate central locking kit too, only about £40 from Aliexpress.
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