Maxus T90EV

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Richtea1970

1,157 posts

61 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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NDNDNDND said:
A bigger issue is the light payload and towing capacities. While an electric truck would make sense for the very short distances our D-Max travels on the farm, the payload capacity would often be exceeded (just a load of logs would do that, especially if they're being brought back for seasoning) and the towing capacity wouldn't be sufficient to drag two dozen ewes to the market. Plus venturing onto a muddy field with a trailer and only two wheel drive would probably result in a walk back to the yard to get a tractor.

Not too mention the Chinese factor. Ick.
Yours is a fairly unique scenario I guess, you need a 4x4 with a higher payload. I don’t intend to go off road or take lambs to the slaughter so suits me fine, Plus you wouldn’t get a brand new Isuzu for £100 a month,

Toaster Pilot

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14,622 posts

159 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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A double cab D-Max only has a 1100kg payload anyway doesn’t it? I think if you need to tow loads then fair enough but complaining about it only having a 1000kg payload is nonsense.

James6112

4,489 posts

29 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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NDNDNDND said:
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Not too mention the Chinese factor. Ick.
Same comment on every Chinese car thread.
(from my iPhone, made in China)

fuzzymonkey

410 posts

226 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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https://old.reddit.com/r/CarTalkUK/comments/18p4yw...

For someone to win, someone has to lose...

TheDeuce

22,101 posts

67 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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fuzzymonkey said:
https://old.reddit.com/r/CarTalkUK/comments/18p4yw...

For someone to win, someone has to lose...
Poor guy. But also, what on earth gave him the impression the car was really worth £40k!!! That's madness.


finlo

3,781 posts

204 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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Risonax said:
Mikebentley said:
Toaster Pilot said:
Silvanus said:
This is the one. I'm surprised they've gone with using the Maxus branding over MG, guess it's to separate passenger and commercial brands in Europe. SAIC make a huge range of cars and they get badged differently in different markets.

https://www.mgcars.com/en/mg-models/new-mg-extende...

Yeah it can’t just be me that thinks it’s daft having the “Maxus” brand stand alone. Even more so now they’re launching a car - the MIFA 9 people carrier thing.
It’s probably a tax thing and Maxus sort of sounds like a big strong spacious word for commercial vehicles. I always wondered why Ford didn’t sue them for their fake transits though.
Its from the old LDV (Leyland Daf Vans) brand; a joint LDV-Daewoo design. It wasn't a bad van.
I think you're thinking of the old previous generation vans, the newer ones are a blatant Transit rip off.

NDNDNDND

2,035 posts

184 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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Toaster Pilot said:
A double cab D-Max only has a 1100kg payload anyway doesn’t it? I think if you need to tow loads then fair enough but complaining about it only having a 1000kg payload is nonsense.
I must've got the single and double cabs confused - our crewcab is rated at 1136kg, but the RWD single cab can carry nearly 1300. I'd say both are a reasonable chunk more than the Maxus though. Furthermore, it seems the T90 EV is only rated to 740kg payload in most territories and has been reclassified/re-engineered (?) to have a one-tonne payload in the UK market for tax reasons.

I'm surprised that people think our usage is unique. Is it a shock to find that some people buy a pickup because they actually need a pickup and then do pickup things with it?

This thing looks a bit useless though. Sketchy payload, sketchy road manners, can't tow enough, can't go off road as it's 2wd and the vulnerable battery is literally hung below the chassis rails. It's a pickup for people who'd be better served by a van. No wonder they're giving them away for nothing!

GT6k

862 posts

163 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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I see two types of pickups, battered dirty ones belonging to tradesmen and farmers and a larger contingent are pristine clean and the furthest off-road they go is a couple of wheels on the kerb whilst the children are disgorged outside school.

TheDeuce

22,101 posts

67 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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GT6k said:
I see two types of pickups, battered dirty ones belonging to tradesmen and farmers and a larger contingent are pristine clean and the furthest off-road they go is a couple of wheels on the kerb whilst the children are disgorged outside school.
And virtually all those owners are actually just fine with the min 1t load limit.

The number of people that actually need more than that must be pretty small. Obviously we have one poster here who's used to being able to carry a fair chunk more but I seriously doubt that's a common 'need' amongst pickup drivers.

Toaster Pilot

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14,622 posts

159 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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GT6k said:
I see two types of pickups, battered dirty ones belonging to tradesmen and farmers and a larger contingent are pristine clean and the furthest off-road they go is a couple of wheels on the kerb whilst the children are disgorged outside school.
I live on a new build site and loads of the black hats drive pickups. They never carry more than a lunch box because materials are brought to site.

Toaster Pilot

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14,622 posts

159 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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TheDeuce said:
And virtually all those owners are actually just fine with the min 1t load limit.

The number of people that actually need more than that must be pretty small. Obviously we have one poster here who's used to being able to carry a fair chunk more but I seriously doubt that's a common 'need' amongst pickup drivers.
I’m guessing if the Maxus was manufactured somewhere else they’d suddenly need less payload.

TheDeuce

22,101 posts

67 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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Toaster Pilot said:
GT6k said:
I see two types of pickups, battered dirty ones belonging to tradesmen and farmers and a larger contingent are pristine clean and the furthest off-road they go is a couple of wheels on the kerb whilst the children are disgorged outside school.
I live on a new build site and loads of the black hats drive pickups. They never carry more than a lunch box because materials are brought to site.
It's no secret that the double cabs are mostly a BIK dodge. Essentially a tax free family car for the weekend that also, genuinely, does make sense in several industries if you have to make off road site visits... But still, the chief reason they're selected is typically for the tax saving.

This is why each generation of pickup truck focuses more and more on trying to be a five seater premium SUV on the inside, they know who's buying them and why!

Snow and Rocks

1,952 posts

28 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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It's worth pointing out how just how little traction a 2wd pickup has if anyone has even the slightest need to venture off tarmac.

My Hilux runs on tall profile narrow 17 inch BFG ATs yet is absolutely useless off road until you engage 4x4. I went skiing today and needed to switch in the front axle to get out of the ploughed car park yet all sorts of normal everyday cars were happily trundling around.

In 4x4 it does everything my previous Land Cruisers and Defenders did.

Some of the figures quoted are crazily cheap though.

TheDeuce

22,101 posts

67 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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Snow and Rocks said:
It's worth pointing out how just how little traction a 2wd pickup has if anyone has even the slightest need to venture off tarmac.

My Hilux runs on tall profile narrow 17 inch BFG ATs yet is absolutely useless off road until you engage 4x4. I went skiing today and needed to switch in the front axle to get out of the ploughed car park yet all sorts of normal everyday cars were happily trundling around.

In 4x4 it does everything my previous Land Cruisers and Defenders did.

Some of the figures quoted are crazily cheap though.
AWD changes everything, agreed.

But this particular 'truck' is endlessly flawed as a truck, the ground clearance is useless. The rwd is useless.. and I'm not sure but I'm willing to bet part of a diesel to EV truck conversion resulted in low rolling resistance tyres, also useless off road.

But it doesn't matter because it's plainly a double cab pickup designed to be sold as a tax dodge family car solution smile

But it didn't sell because it's too expensive to be a tax dodge and too weak to be a useful truck. Hence, it's a dead donkey disposed of via ludicrously cheap lease deals.

Grab em while you can! But don't take it onto a muddy field thinking you're an alpha male...

Richtea1970

1,157 posts

61 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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I’ve signed up for one. Would I have gone out and looked at a pick up for my next car? Absolutely not. The reason I went for it is because I’ve been looking for something to replace my 12 year old Vauxhall Vivaro.
In that Vivaro I’ve never needed to carry 1000kgs, utilise 4 wheel drive or travel in excess of 220 miles. All I’ve needed of it is that it gets from a to b with room for me, the wife and the dog.
What I do need of it (and the same 2 things I was looking for before the Maxus) is that it’s cheaper on fuel and that it has an auto box so it ticks the boxes for me. The fact that it will cost me less each month than I was currently spending on fuel is a bonus.

Since this deal came out I’ve heard comments on here, the lease thread and the second hand car thread about why it won’t suit, how you’ll be lucky to get 120 miles out of it, how you’ll be stuck in a grassy field without 4wd, how it’s massively overpriced etc. It’s like I’ve seen the price, signed a form and sat here waiting for this vehicle to turn up and me to discover all its faults.

I haven’t, and I’m sure most who have gone for it haven’t either. As soon as the offer came up I read/watched all the reviews I could. I then went to the Maxus dealer climbed all over it and had quite a long test drive. Then, and only then, I signed up.

So what I’m trying to say is that I’m sure everyone is aware of it’s limitations but that still doesn’t distract from the fact this is a cracking deal, costing less than most people’s Sky TV subscription.

Richtea1970

1,157 posts

61 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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Has anyone heard anything regards a possible delivery date yet?

Toaster Pilot

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14,622 posts

159 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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Richtea1970 said:
Has anyone heard anything regards a possible delivery date yet?
OSV have been shut since the 22nd, imagine most others are the same.

Richtea1970

1,157 posts

61 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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Yeah, good point! Hopefully something will hear something next week then. Just debating whether to get my old van up for sale this weekend scratchchin

Toaster Pilot

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14,622 posts

159 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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Had my agreement from the funder to sign today, confirming the registration number.

Didn’t work at first but about 20 mins later they sent me another email which did, odd.

Richtea1970

1,157 posts

61 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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Toaster Pilot said:
Had my agreement from the funder to sign today, confirming the registration number.

Didn’t work at first but about 20 mins later they sent me another email which did, odd.
That's good to hear mate. Are you getting any accessories?
I've looked at a few tonneau covers etc but to have one whilst retaining the original roll bars are silly money. So I've been watching a few YouTube videos on making your own. Looks pretty straightforward so I think that's what I'm going to do.
Think I'm going to get the tailgate central locking kit too, only about £40 from Aliexpress.