Knackered old Porsche with loads of natural light - Boxster!

Knackered old Porsche with loads of natural light - Boxster!

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poppopbangbang

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Tuesday 3rd January 2023
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I've been meaning to post this for a while! Some months back I stumbled across a 2.5 Boxster on E-Bay.... it was very cheap and came with no history, as well all know the very best Porsches are listed on e-bay cheap, with the odd broken bit and no history so without any further ado I immediately went and got it:



Obviously trailered it home to keep the mileage off it and not because it didn't run, had no brake pedal or smelled of wet dog or anything like that....

It looks pretty good in this picture which hides the mismatched tyres, heavily kerbed wheels, badly rattle canned front bumper, green roof and heavy misfire really well!





However the good bits were a mostly complete service history, 90K miles, great spec (including Litronics, extended leather, and embossed seats) and underneath all the moss and dirt it was actually pretty straight.... but did need a few bits sorted, like the misfire and poor brake pedal.

As this was before I'd actually finished the garage it was a fix it on axle stands job:



Luckily the problem was pretty simple, a massive vacuum leak from the brake servo feed, which was easily fixed. I also set the throttle cable up properly, cleaned the butterfly, checked the air filter and gave it a wipe over of healing. Once done it drove really well to the point that I felt quite sorry for it that for the sake of a loose hose it had been sat for 6 months odd.

A few other points needed addressing, like the broken centre cubby lid and sloppy gearstick. Porsche to a cubby repair kit and short shift kits are cheap so neither of these was a problem:

Cubby repair kit:


Previous owners badly mixed epoxy fix:


Actual fix:


Well worn gear selector:


And short shift kit fitted:


I was so pleased with how this was going I got the DA out and gave it a proper once over, using Autoglyms rapid renovator kit which is almost impossible to cock up:



And the headlights got a polish too!:



Aside from the front bumper the paint was all original and save for an amount of patina that you can't knock a 22 year old car for was in decent condition once "corrected":





The hood had a massive clean with an Autoglym kit which was clingfilmed on overnight resulting in a much cleaner and less green top!

The front bumper got a strip down and repaint as that was unrecoverable but came out alright in the end laugh



I changed radiators at the same time but forgot to take any pics of that...

Wheels refurbed with a couple of fresh Bridgestones:



TT did a great job on these including getting the centre caps back to presentable.



The utterly used front discs and pads got swapped whilst the wheels were off and I also cleaned the calipers up:



Wheels fitted with some new black bolts:



It was really starting to look pretty tidy now!



In a fit of enthusiasm and because by this point I'd also mostly finished the garage I treated it to a service



Got to love a pop up filler smile



And fixed the door microswitch so the window drop worked:



Which resulted in a really nice 2.5L Boxster which everything works on and that returns 30mpg bumbling about the place.



It is a beautifully balanced little thing, even on it's probably original dampers, and whilst boasting very little power is nippy enough to enjoy and have fun with - in the wet it also does sideways impressively well! I've used it as my daily up until the salt started to appear on the roads and it's sat in the garage now. Jobs for next year / once I've finished the 996 are pretty sparse as this is staying as a pretty much standard car. I need to fix the hand brake light switch which packed up just before I parked it for winter as this stops the roof working and the hood needs a new rear window, amazingly it's not split down the middle as so many do but is pretty opaque and starting to fret on one corner.

I can't get over what a fun car it is to run around in, and surprisingly practical too if you don't need more than two seats. Definitely a mega e-bay buy and proof that you can never have too many projects....... or too many Porsches laugh

I'm planning a Euro trip in this later this year as well as using it as the daily (because it halves the fuel bill vs the Cayenne!) so I'll keep things updated with how well / badly this goes biggrin

Edited by poppopbangbang on Tuesday 3rd January 18:44

poppopbangbang

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aka_kerrly said:
Liking this, good work!!

Did i miss the bit about how you fixed the misfire or was that cured during the service?
It was a massive vacuum leak from the brake servo vacuum feed. It idled at a lot of RPM more than it should and misfired on light throttle due to the leak being after the MAF.


aka_kerrly said:
Either way, that looks like a cracking buy, i suspect you got it for somewhere maybe south of £3k , I've also been looking at a few cheap Boxsters on Ebay but haven't been brave enough for a fixer up and keep suffering from budget creep as I'd love a Speed Yellow one!!
I totally rolled the dice on this on the basis that if it was a dead engined one I'd steal the headlights as spares for the 996, fit some standard ones I had in stock and sell it as a project. Fortune favours the brave and all that laugh

I do think Boxsters are going to see an increase in value over the coming few years as so many have been lost to breaking for parts etc. as their value was so much lower than the repair cost. It will be interesting to see where they end up but regardless it's very hard to fault a 2.5 as they are so cheap to run in terms of consumables (none fancy brake discs etc.) and seem (touching wood) to avoid the usual foibles of the M96 due to the thicker bores and dual row IMS.

poppopbangbang

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Tuesday 3rd January 2023
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tvrfan007 said:
Another entertaining thread to read. What's first on the mods list?!
If it goes pop I'm putting an LS3 in it on general principle laugh otherwise its staying as the daily - it is my least modified Porsche..... which considering one of the others is a Cayenne is saying something biggrin

poppopbangbang

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Tuesday 3rd January 2023
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ReverendCounter said:
Ever thought of starting a business of buying and upgrading Boxsters and 996's to sell, or sorting customers cars out with a range of upgrade packages or something?

The amount of knowledge you've amassed, doesn't seem like there's much if anything you couldn't tackle.
You're not the first person to suggest this biggrin

poppopbangbang

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Wednesday 4th January 2023
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eltax91 said:
When you find another cheap one that you just can’t resist, drop your old pal a line and sell me this. I sooooo miss my 996, got the itch for a Porsche again. hehe
I can highly recommend a Boxster, they are so well balanced and still feel a lot like a 996. There are a good few about that are perfectly decent for £6K'ish and you can spanner so a 2.5 will be cheap to look after! Get it done biggrin

poppopbangbang

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Wednesday 4th January 2023
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jon-yprpe said:
Never mind the cars, you have my dream garage set-up. All the gear and nice and tidy!
Thank you! It's coming together slowly - I want to build some storage / work surfaces up as the next job and plasterboard the ceiling but it's more than sufficent for working on something like a 996 in at the moment so the rest of the fit out can wait until summer!

I did consider the Sealey cabinets etc. but I want something a bit warmer and less pure garage than that.... next project laugh

poppopbangbang

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Wednesday 4th January 2023
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ReverendCounter said:
Alternatively, just buy every crashed Porsche you can get your hands on and rebuild+upgrade them, create a constant supply of trustworthy 986/7/996's into the market.
I would happily fill a barn full of 996s to build later should opportunity present itself - after all you can do that for less than the cost of an RS 4.0 at the moment biggrin

poppopbangbang

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Thursday 5th January 2023
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Bright Halo said:
That looks really nice
Has it been lowered as looks a little lower than normal?
Thank you, it's standard ride height on 23 year old springs.... which may be why it looks a little lower laugh It measures up within 2mm of what the Porsche spec is though so they haven't sagged too much.

poppopbangbang

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Thursday 5th January 2023
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eltax91 said:
2.7 Similarly strong/ reliable and thus a no brainer purchase? biggrin
I think the later ones are on single row IMS but aside from that and for what what they are going for you'd be crazy not to roll the dice! biggrin

poppopbangbang

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Sunday 8th January 2023
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Sko77y said:
Great thread, although I thought it would take you longer to sort out than the first post!

Garage space looks really good as well, always wanted to try a Porsche but can't get away from MX5's!
Yes I got very lucky with that, although I'm yet to see a 2.5 that has catastrophically failed so was rater relying on that. There is so much internet scare mongering about M96 engines that as soon as one has an issue people jump straight to "properly broken" before checking the basics.

Definitely take the step to Porsches, the bits do cost more than parts for an MX5 but on the flip side they rust a lot less!

poppopbangbang

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Sunday 8th January 2023
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ronmac7 said:
I to am enjoying your Boxster article I hope you keep going with it. I bought a year 2000 2.7 just over a year ago, I am really liking it, it had only done 27.7K miles as it had always been a 2nd or 3rd car. It has now managed to get to 29.5k as again it’s a third car, and it flew throw its M.O.T. in Nov.
I thought it was a twin row bearing car but going by the engine number I think it might be single row.
Car was invoiced in July 2000 and is engine number 65I 14776 Type M96.22. On checking underneath it does not have any sign of oil in the usual place, so will have to keep my eye on that or spend the money for peace of mind.
Can I ask what tyre pressures you have settled on to suit your driving feel ?.
If it was me I would leave well alone but then I do have somewhat of a high risk/reward approach to these things biggrin I can recommend the EPS IMS solution which is what's in my 3.7 in the 996. This only went in there as the original dual row was NLA and seemed by far the best engineered aftermarket solution.

My 986 is standard pressures but 2psi down on the front to dial out a little of the understeer.

poppopbangbang

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Sunday 8th January 2023
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is200 said:
Hi ppbb,

Slightly off topic (although I do have a Boxster 987!), how do you find the Kwik Lift? Did you go for the 2.5 or 3.5 Ton version?

Looking to get one of these and comparing with the Quick Jack which only seems available as DC in the UK whilst the Kwik Lift can be either AC or DC..

Cheers.
They're brilliant, I went for the 2.5T version as it's more than sufficent for what I lift on them and has a lower entry height. When not in use they hang on the garage wall so take up no space and the hyds pack sits on the bottom shelf of some racking so never really has to move to connect the lines etc.



The dry breaks aren't that dry but that's standard for most hyds dry breaks other than that they are solid, well made, lift a Porsche with absolute ease to a level that makes nearly all common jobs easy. Pair them with a set of Porsche lift blocks that engage with the lifting points properly and they clear everything delicate under the car with ease. They take a bit of common sense to operate with regards making sure the locks are engaged properly etc. but no more so than the basic checks one should do when lifting anything on a lift.

I went for the Kwik Lift version because they were available when I wanted them. It seems they're all made in the same factory so it just depends on what colours/brand you like the best laugh

Edited by poppopbangbang on Thursday 12th January 15:58

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It was a nice day today so I've been out in the Boxster to pick some bits up, even got the roof down on the way back!

Still amazed by just how much Porsche you can get for such a little amount of money. If you're considering one then get it done before they're all ten grand + laugh


poppopbangbang

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Thursday 23rd February 2023
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squareflops said:
Can I ask which version of the quick shift you went for? There seems to be a good few options although assuming they’ve all come out of the same factory. They seem almost too cheap which made me wary!
I am pretty certain they all come from the same factory as I've had a few brands over the years all of which have the same colour annodising and finish. They are pretty well machined for 50 quid and not particularily challenging to fit (although there is no way to save the standard bushes if that bothers you as they need breaking to remove). I think it makes a big different to the feel of the car, a little overly stiff initialy but they soon lose that stiction as they wear in and the reduction in shift distance and increase in weight is far more preferable to me than the rather long throw that's there as standard.

In short if it's a blue annodised one it's likely pukka biggrin

poppopbangbang

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Thursday 23rd February 2023
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The Boxster continues to be fantastic fair weather transport and it's had a treat today with a mornings stay at Center Gravity for a road use focused setup:



Really cannot fault those numbers on a load of old road car bits, as always CG did a mega job of sorting out a few small bits on it during the setup and generally taking the care, attention and time required to do an excellent job. I can't recommend them highly enough for any setup needs one may have!

No major dramas to report bar it needs a couple of rear tuning forks at some point in the near future so that's added to next service list.


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Thursday 23rd February 2023
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TameRacingDriver said:
I actually had a thread on here about whether to go for the 2.5 or 3.2 but now I've had the latter I think I'd definitely go for the 2.5, shorter gears (the tall ratios of the 3.2 genuinely made it feel gutless until you were traveling at silly speeds), less bork factor, cheaper to buy to the point where they're barely even that much of a risk anymore. Hmm...
Cheaper consumables too as the brakes etc. are dirt cheap compared to those on the S etc. Much is made of the gear ratios on the 2.5 but they really are perfect for it and make it feel genuinely nippy point to point at normal road speeds!

It would be rude not to buy one really.... laugh

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Thursday 9th March 2023
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ronmac7 said:
Hi, I believe you mentioned earlier in the thread that the Boxster had wheel spacers fitted, can I enquire as to what size they are front and back please.
7MM front and 15mm rear.... basically the "standard" spacers for a Boxster laugh

You don't need hubcentrics on the front but the rear is a must at anything above 7MM.


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TameRacingDriver said:
Here's my original thread on the topic, if you're interested: 986 conundrum; 2.5 v 3.2
Enjoyed that! Good read biggrin

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As the sun has finally come out it seemed rude not to give it a quick and dirty detail:



The old thing scrubs up really well and I am still in awe of what a difference some spacers make to the visuals of the rear of the car.

It's due its MOT in a few weeks so I've given it a once over in advance of that. No significant jobs to do, it wants some rear tuning fork arms so they are on the way but they're a super easy change and don't impact the geo so a lazy afternoons job at worst. I might also put some fresh rear pads in as I've got to sort out a dodgy brake wear sensor that keeps spooking the light on the dash so whilst it's apart....

Aside from that I'm still running this on a mostly send it and see approach laugh but it continues to be a hugely entertaining, balanced and nippy if you're working at it car.

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Tuesday 4th April 2023
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TameRacingDriver said:
Very nice. I've joined the club again myself, and in a fairly similar looking colour smile

Here it is alongside the car it's replacing.

Lovely car biggrin But I would say that right? laugh

I am biased but having spent a fair whack of time in later MX5's the Boxster is so much better (and that's taking into account the personality the MX5 has)..... and they rust a lot less!