No Spare Wheel - What to do?

No Spare Wheel - What to do?

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The Mad Monk

Original Poster:

10,474 posts

118 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Newish car. No spare wheel. What should I do?

Buy a large aerosol of tyre gloop?

Make sure I have a good breakdown service?

Leave a spre wheel at home - better make that two, the fronts and rears are different sizes?

Start believing in the power of prayer?

Any other suggestions?

Challo

10,205 posts

156 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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https://www.holtsauto.com/holts/products/tyreweld/

I have no spare and carry one of these

Plymo

1,152 posts

90 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Good breakdown cover I'd say!
If you didn't have 2 different sizes to worry about I'd agree with the keeping a spare at home - that way at least after being recovered home (inevitably Saturday/Sunday, with an early start needed on Monday of course) you'd be mobile again straight away.
But in your case you would probably end up with the significant cost of two new wheels and tyres that would probably never get used (or when you do need it, sod's law would dictate it's when you're at the other end of the country...)

I have a "string" type repair kit though I've not used it - I want to try it out on an old tyre first to see what happens. But again it's only useful with a normal puncture rather than anything catastrophic.

MikeM6

5,012 posts

103 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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I rely on breakdown and have for about a decade or so. I've changed a wheel once on a car due to a puncture and would do so again happily, but they just don't come with the spare or the space for one in the boot.

The Mad Monk

Original Poster:

10,474 posts

118 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Plymo said:
I have a "string" type repair kit though I've not used it - I want to try it out on an old tyre first to see what happens. But again it's only useful with a normal puncture rather than anything catastrophic.
What's a 'string' repair kit?

stevieturbo

17,273 posts

248 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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The Mad Monk said:
Newish car. No spare wheel. What should I do?

Buy a large aerosol of tyre gloop?

Make sure I have a good breakdown service?

Leave a spre wheel at home - better make that two, the fronts and rears are different sizes?

Start believing in the power of prayer?

Any other suggestions?
Buy a spare wheel and jack etc.

There are multiple DIY repair kits available.

Spare wheel at home isn't a lot of use unless you get a puncture at home.

Unlikely prayers will help

Breakdown recovery might be an option.

Presumably the car has runflats ?

When did you last get a puncture ? Do you travel far ?

Plymo

1,152 posts

90 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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The Mad Monk said:
Plymo said:
I have a "string" type repair kit though I've not used it - I want to try it out on an old tyre first to see what happens. But again it's only useful with a normal puncture rather than anything catastrophic.
What's a 'string' repair kit?
This sort of thing: https://www.tyrebaydirect.com/product-category/tyr...

You use a pointed tool to force the folded over rubber string stuff into the hole, and the string then seals the hole and glues itself in.
It's a "temporary" repair now, but I do have an old Morris Minor manual (when tubeless tyres were a new thing) which states they are alright as a permanent repair.
Personally I'd go for a proper mushroom plug type when possible though

The Mad Monk

Original Poster:

10,474 posts

118 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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The other thing I forgot to mention is (are?) runflats.

Smint

1,725 posts

36 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Is there room under the boot floor for a skinny get you home spare wheel, also note you'll need a bag of some sort for a suitable folding jack and wheelbrace, handy if these will fit inside the dish of the wheel.
Should be able to find the right skinny spare used on the usual auction site (make sure it fits before you need it in anger, might not go over large front discs and only fit on the rear, that'll be fun with a flat front tyre on a cold wet night), make sure whatever you use as a wheelbrace that its a 6 sided socket with enough leverage.

I know lots of people don't feel the need for a spare, but blowed if i'm waiting around for a breakdown truck at the most awkward time and place, nor having me pants pulled down paying through the nose for an emergency out of hours tyre purchase.


Edited by Smint on Saturday 25th June 11:35

E-bmw

9,244 posts

153 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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The Mad Monk said:
Newish car. No spare wheel. What should I do?

Buy a large aerosol of tyre gloop?

Make sure I have a good breakdown service?

Leave a spre wheel at home - better make that two, the fronts and rears are different sizes?
Carry a can of tyre foam.

Why wouldn't you have breakdown cover anyway?

If there is actually space for a spare just get the smaller one, it will get you home & remove the stress out of the tyre purchase.

All new cars now have TPMS so you will get advance warning & have the time to hopefully be able to sort it out before it is a full blow out.

My cars came one with nothing, one with a space-saver.

The one with a space saver has got a full size spare now. The one without will only fit a space-saver in it, but with an inch off the height of the floor of the boot & a piece of MDF fitted under it, it now has a full size spare.

RDMcG

19,198 posts

208 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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I have four cars that do not have spare wheels.
If they do not have it as OEM I use a plug-in inflator and tire goop.
Worked fine last week.was on a 2000km run and got a screw in the tire-not repairable and tire was an unusual size so had to go to dealer and run the car on goop for the period , much longer than recommended.

It did leak slowly but a few boosts kept it to normal pressure and I rallied the car anyway.

It is a rare enough event for me-in last year years I have had one blowout and three tires with nails/sharp objects. (Compared to five windshields!!(

IAmTheWalrus

1,049 posts

45 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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The Mad Monk said:
Newish car. No spare wheel. What should I do?

Buy a large aerosol of tyre gloop?

Make sure I have a good breakdown service?

Leave a spre wheel at home - better make that two, the fronts and rears are different sizes?

Start believing in the power of prayer?

Any other suggestions?
I've had three, yes there punctures were they gloop crap would never have fixed not those pump up aerosols either. Big rips in the middle of nowhere and in the middle of winter, just buy a proper tyre, space saver on ebay.

brillomaster

1,264 posts

171 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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I just have a 12v pump in the boot. If a puncture is so severe it can't be managed by pumping it up every half hour, its unlikely any tyre goop would help, in which case its breakdown service time.

In 15yrs driving ive had a slow puncture twice. Never needed recovery for a flat tyre.

paintman

7,694 posts

191 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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IAmTheWalrus said:
The Mad Monk said:
Newish car. No spare wheel. What should I do?

Buy a large aerosol of tyre gloop?

Make sure I have a good breakdown service?

Leave a spre wheel at home - better make that two, the fronts and rears are different sizes?

Start believing in the power of prayer?

Any other suggestions?
I've had three, yes there punctures were they gloop crap would never have fixed not those pump up aerosols either. Big rips in the middle of nowhere and in the middle of winter, just buy a proper tyre, space saver on ebay.
Eldest checked the tyre pressures on his Meganesport & the valve stem on one snapped off.
No spare provided - just cans of gloop with the Renault log on. In a big foam thing in the rear wheel well which was plenty big enough for a full size wheel.
And it was Friday early evening.
RAC man managed to find a tyre place open & a standard valve fitted.
When he went into Renault in Birmingham on the Monday the new valves (TPMS type) weren't that expensive but the nearest stock was in Germany......

IAmTheWalrus

1,049 posts

45 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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brillomaster said:
I just have a 12v pump in the boot. If a puncture is so severe it can't be managed by pumping it up every half hour, its unlikely any tyre goop would help, in which case its breakdown service time.

In 15yrs driving ive had a slow puncture twice. Never needed recovery for a flat tyre.
People don't intend to drive over a nail..

stevieturbo

17,273 posts

248 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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paintman said:
Eldest checked the tyre pressures on his Meganesport & the valve stem on one snapped off.
No spare provided - just cans of gloop with the Renault log on. In a big foam thing in the rear wheel well which was plenty big enough for a full size wheel.
And it was Friday early evening.
RAC man managed to find a tyre place open & a standard valve fitted.
When he went into Renault in Birmingham on the Monday the new valves (TPMS type) weren't that expensive but the nearest stock was in Germany......
If the tyre valve snapped off......it must have been in a dangerous state already, so that was probably lucky.

Tyre valves do not just randomly break off though

get all of them checked

The Mad Monk

Original Poster:

10,474 posts

118 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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What about run flats?

Do they work?

Smint

1,725 posts

36 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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The Mad Monk said:
What about run flats?

Do they work?
Not as i've had them, or want them come to that, but don't they require a wheel specifically designed for runflats to do their job in a deflated state?

stevieturbo

17,273 posts

248 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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The Mad Monk said:
What about run flats?

Do they work?
What is your expectation of "work" ?

Would they enable you to drive slowly to a safe place ? probably.

Would they enable you to continue as normal ? No.

And of course with runflats TPMS must be working to alert you of the loss of air.

The Mad Monk

Original Poster:

10,474 posts

118 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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stevieturbo said:
The Mad Monk said:
What about run flats?

Do they work?
What is your expectation of "work" ?

Would they enable you to drive slowly to a safe place ? probably.

Would they enable you to continue as normal ? No.

And of course with runflats TPMS must be working to alert you of the loss of air.
Do they do what it says on the tin?

I have TPMs (or summat) So presumably a message comes up on the screen warning of pressure loss. I then have 50? miles at a maximum of 50 mph, to get me home, or to my favourite tyre suppliers?

Is that how it works? My apologies for the naive questions.