Horsforth A65 - A6120 roundabout improvements.

Horsforth A65 - A6120 roundabout improvements.

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roystinho

3,767 posts

176 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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All that jazz said:
Why don't you stay on Otley Rd, turn left at the Esso, across Adel Lane through to Long Causeway and then down to the lights on the Ring Rd?
Not as fun wink

burriana

16,556 posts

255 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Input from JoelK so that we don't have two threads running on the same subject:


Hi folks,

Apologies for starting a new thread on a similar subject - but I think you will find this is important enough to warrant it:

If the controlling Labour council in Leeds get away with it, they plan to build 717 houses and TWO schools on the Horsforth roundabout – on GREEN BELT land. This is directly adjacent to the roundabout, close to where the strawberry picking fields are; up past the former Clariant site (literally sandwiched between the A65 and the ring road).

Plus over 200 more are planned on the opposite side of the ring road, where there is a small Leeds City College site too (opposite KFC).

It’s all part of their egotistical master plan to build 70,000 new homes across Leeds – which is 30% more than even they have been advised is needed by their own construction industry lead advisors.

Full details on the early stage plan are here:

http://democracy.leeds.gov.uk/documents/s126087/Dr...

http://democracy.leeds.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx...

http://democracy.leeds.gov.uk/documents/s126092/5....

AND – if you’re not shocked enough at that, you should also know that they are pushing through plans to rip up more Green Belt fields opposite Rawdon Crematorium to make a new road linking to the airport from the A65, adding yet more traffic onto the same section of grid lock!

Genius, I know.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/leeds-b...

As at the moment, as a member of the public / local resident, your options don’t count for much – as it is a council controlled decision – which is mainly lead by the Labour councillors who have the massive majority.

The best you can do at this stage is write to your local town councilor (wherever you live, any area) – and protest that you strongly oppose the development of these sites, or on any of the other Green Belt land required to meet the over inflated housing target – and want him/her to vote against them on your behalf.

http://democracy.leeds.gov.uk/mgMemberIndex.aspx?b...

Please feel free to pass this on to others affected by the craziness.


Warm regards and happy motoring!


Joel – A local resident (who also sits and waits in the traffic there everyday) and Pistonheader.

TonyRPH

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12,977 posts

169 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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It seems as though they are determined to build more housing close to the city centre, rather than further afield.

Could this be an effort to force the use of public transport?

A new development is under way just up the road from me in Queensway, Guiseley.
I note that on some of the planning documents, residents of this new development are to be given discounts on bus & rail services for 'X' years (I don't remember how long).

Somehow I still don't think this is going to get people out of their cars.


All that jazz

7,632 posts

147 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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I don't often have to go that way as I'm further along the Ring Road and generally go down through Headingley to where I need to be but I had to go up to Farsley this morning from Adel and what a nightmare. Everything running fairly smooth til about 800 yards before Fink Hill lights then it took over 30 mins from there to finally get across Horsforth rbt, which was then followed by a 10mph crawl down to Rodley rbt before I could get my toe down. I feel for those of you that have to go that way to work on a daily basis.

Although I understand the logistics for not being able to fully dual it down to Rodley without replacing the canal and rail bridges, I think that the traffic would cope just fine with it dualled down to the bridges before merging into 1 again. The extra road capacity from Horsforth to prevent the rbt from being gridlocked is really all that's needed in the short term at least. Can't cost that much in the grand scheme of things to carve up the super wide grass verge and bang some tarmac down.

I read somewhere that a new train station is being built behind the old Kirkstall Forge where GKN Axles used to be ?? Seems a bit random as there aren't many houses in the immediate vicinity. confused

MonkeyBusiness

3,937 posts

188 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Kirkstall Forge has been under construction for years. The original plans were very impressive and included a rail station.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

147 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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MonkeyBusiness said:
Kirkstall Forge has been under construction for years. The original plans were very impressive and included a rail station.
Ah yes, forgot there are houses down there now. Down Pollard Lane? I even remember delivering some excavators there on my low loader truck but had completely forgotten about it!

johnfm

13,668 posts

251 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Seems like a pretty good place to build a housing estate and schools. It may be 'green belt' but it's hardly the gateway to the dales...its undeveloped fields near the ring road. One would hope they build some decent houses - though I expect they will be identikit Barratts houses.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

147 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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johnfm said:
Seems like a pretty good place to build a housing estate and schools. It may be 'green belt' but it's hardly the gateway to the dales...its undeveloped fields near the ring road. One would hope they build some decent houses - though I expect they will be identikit Barratts houses.
Location may well be good, but the existing road infrastructure is not. You have what is basically a very busy single carriageway road to handle a ton of traffic on and between two main arterial routes in, out and around Leeds. Changing the line paint on the roundabouts and moving the islands around a bit is not going to change anything and it will be absolute chaos if these houses get built.

MonkeyBusiness

3,937 posts

188 months

Sunday 31st May 2015
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The time this is taking is a piss take.
How long does it take to put a few kerbs in?

This plus the new station at Kirkstall Forge is making the daily commute a pain.

soad

32,903 posts

177 months

Sunday 31st May 2015
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What happened to old Horsforth Police Station on Broadway? It looked awfully dated.

Land sold on, and building/s demolished?

MonkeyBusiness

3,937 posts

188 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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soad said:
What happened to old Horsforth Police Station on Broadway? It looked awfully dated.
Land sold on, and building/s demolished?
All knocked down and new houses built on the land.

Wills2

22,858 posts

176 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Incredible amount of time and it appears non effort being spent on that roundabout, just another area to be avoided on my way onto Leeds during the week.

The traffic into Leeds is getting silly, even my ninja route over the tops from Menston and through into the back of Cookridge has been rumbled it's crazy seeing those moor roads totally clogged with traffic as well.




TonyRPH

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12,977 posts

169 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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All they're doing is making it more bus and pedestrian friendly.

You know - for the pedestrians that don't actually exist around there...


Wills2

22,858 posts

176 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Yeah all those shops round there must be a nightmare!





roystinho

3,767 posts

176 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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It's ridiculous.

What makes it even worse for us locals is they speed bumped the back road between Rawdon and Horsforth, and now they're digging it all up again to do gas works, so all that traffic goes back onto the main road where everyone can only queue in single file and not in two lines. You can go at 2.00pm and be queuing from past the crematorium easily. Bonkers.

At least they're trying to build loads of new houses on all the lovely green space we have round here, that's really gonna help the road infrastructure. Idiots.

MonkeyBusiness

3,937 posts

188 months

Wednesday 21st October 2015
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Well it's finished bar a few flowers on the roundabout.
The lights are on and.....it hasn't made any difference to the traffic.

lavaJava

103 posts

109 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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My observations as a daily user of this stretch:

I head out to work at about 7am from Pudsey and pass over the Rodley rbt and turn left at the Horsforth rbt towards Rawdon. Any noticeable difference? Well, traffic still goes at c.40mph from Pudsey to Rodley. Folk still beep/ flash when you try to filter over the rbt, and then continue to eventually get to c.40mph going uphill towards Rawdon rbt (okay DC on this bit but I am turning left ahead). Lights on the rbt just mean we queue for a different reason.

Can't see how it has helped, tbh, but I am sure there has been a report that proves this is 'better'.

I avoid it coming home (c.5pm) and have an alt route that brings me back via Kirkstall/ Stanningley bypass. Lesser of two evils.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

147 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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So what do us locals think of the "improvements" to these 2 rbts now they've been in a while? I find the Rodley one works pretty well and certainly the queues coming out of Rodley to go up to Horsforth are reduced now it's traffic light controlled. Going up the ring road to Dawson's Corner now that there's 2 lanes through the rbt is nice but the exit angle is pretty nasty if you're in the inside lane! eek Don't get alongside a truck there because they'll need to use most of lane 2 to avoid running over the edge of the kerb. They should have sorted that out when they did the work imho. Coming the other way, if the lights are on green and you're going a bit fast, that hump in the middle and then sharp right bend over the other side to the exit can catch out the unwary! I don't think it'll be long until someone loses it and plants their motor straight that hedgerow hehe.

Horsforth rbt I've not seen any improvement whatsoever to be honest. I do know that if you're staying on the ring road, using lane 2 to go straight on more often that not ends badly as there isn't enough room for the vehicles turning right to wait at the lights so their arse end hangs out into lane 2 meaning you get stuck in the middle of the rbt waiting for a gap in the traffic in lane 1 in order to get around them. Also, extending the exit down to Rodley by 50 yards has achieved absolutely fk all and the traffic still backs up badly from Kirkstall and Horsforth.

MonkeyBusiness

3,937 posts

188 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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Horsforth is still a shocker in rush hour. From Rawdon/to Rawdon only lets 5 cars through at a time.
Joel touched on it above but if planning is granted to build houses in that area then it will be gridlock.

Saying that, I managed to get through the lights without stopping the other day. Nearly crashed into the Esso garage in excitement.

jock mcsporran

5,004 posts

274 months

Thursday 24th December 2015
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Horsforth is still rubbish. Haven't seen any change whatsoever and I actively avoid it unless I'm nowhere close to rush hour (i.e. 2 hours plus either side).